We don't know how good this team is because they had bad coaches.. I just checked our ex DC team and their defense sucks.. English and his crew didn't f**king know defense.. Checkout the school where Snow moved to.. i see a pattern here They are worst then us..

http://www.owlsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

To everyone point here.. The kids are not being coached right or taught how to play at the college level..

I think the answer is a pretty clear and emphatic no. At this point in the season I believe we "may" beat only WMU. After all, CMU beat OU yesterday and we will be playing them in Mount Pleasant. I had considered CMU a potential win for us, a few weeks ago, but not any longer.

Dear Friends,
Let's keep the discussion of the team and Army results on this thread. Who's up?

(10-13-2013 11:08 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Let's keep the discussion of the team and Army results on this thread. Who's up?

Ken,

I like you. Really. I do. But I am getting fed up with post appropriate responses. When I brought up the Army game it certainly was and is relevant to the thread topic.

In fact, I am so tired on this that I am going to end my already sparse presence on this forum. In other words, I am done.

HuronRob

Dear HuronRob,
I only stated what I did, because we were blocked on the original Army thread and could keep talking about it on this thread. I'm sorry if I have somehow hurt your feelings. I spout off on these threads because I think I may have a point or two for people to consider. I am certainly no expert, and have never claimed to be.

(10-13-2013 05:42 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I only stated what I did, because we were blocked on the original Army thread and could keep talking about it on this thread. I'm sorry if I have somehow hurt your feelings. I spout off on these threads because I think I may have a point or two for people to consider. I am certainly no expert, and have never claimed to be.

Ken,

My frustration had more to do with forum policing than anything else. This thread was not getting divisive and I doubt it was getting anywhere close to being locked. I have no problem with the moderator telling us to cool it but you cautioning me with regard to my post was and is ridiculous. I wasn't calling anyone names and I certainly wasn't being outrageous in my comment.

I suppose we could just sit in front of our monitors all day playing extemely nice but then there wouldn't be any point in having the forum. I treat people with respect and I expect to be treated with respect. For you to add a "cool it" post after I posted was really over reacting and uncalled for.

Rob

Dear HuronRob,
I just went back over all the recent threads and I can't find any particular thread where I told you to "cool it". Maybe you construed something I said as a slam against you, but to my knowledge, I have not done that to anyone on these threads. I have disagreed with peoples' points of view, but that has been it. The only person I gave it to personally was DrTorch on the Mid-American board.

Dear Friends,
What if English has truly given up? What I mean by that question is what are his plans for the rest of the season? Does he use the players that might benefit from some experience, like play Roback at quarterback, whose red-shirt year has been used by being inserted into a game early on? Or use other players more like Canty at defensive back?
Is he still trying to win games, or just going through the motions? What about recruiting? That may be the most important part of the year, because many recruits that may even be thinking of Eastern, not only want to see about the outcome of the season, but who will be the next coach.

(10-15-2013 07:44 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I just went back over all the recent threads and I can't find any particular thread where I told you to "cool it". Maybe you construed something I said as a slam against you, but to my knowledge, I have not done that to anyone on these threads. I have disagreed with peoples' points of view, but that has been it. The only person I gave it to personally was DrTorch on the Mid-American board.

Ken,

You basically reprimanded me for bringing up the Army game in this thread. Why?

Rob

Dear HuronRob,
I guess I must be obtuse. I don't see a reprimand by me of you. You are going to have to be very specific of where it is. The only thing I said was let's continue the Army discussion here, because the Army game thread was blocked. I do not see how that is reprimanding you in any way.
I have gone over all the threads about discussions where your name comes up, and whether I even responded. I see nothing of a reprimand in any of my discussions with you or anyone.

(10-15-2013 04:56 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I guess I must be obtuse. I don't see a reprimand by me of you. You are going to have to be very specific of where it is. The only thing I said was let's continue the Army discussion here, because the Army game thread was blocked. I do not see how that is reprimanding you in any way.
I have gone over all the threads about discussions where your name comes up, and whether I even responded. I see nothing of a reprimand in any of my discussions with you or anyone.

Ken,

My bad. I assumed you were telling me to keep my comments restricted to the ongoing thread about the Army game and not this thread.

That's what happens when I assume.

Rob

(10-15-2013 08:24 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 04:56 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I guess I must be obtuse. I don't see a reprimand by me of you. You are going to have to be very specific of where it is. The only thing I said was let's continue the Army discussion here, because the Army game thread was blocked. I do not see how that is reprimanding you in any way.
I have gone over all the threads about discussions where your name comes up, and whether I even responded. I see nothing of a reprimand in any of my discussions with you or anyone.

Ken,

My bad. I assumed you were telling me to keep my comments restricted to the ongoing thread about the Army game and not this thread.

That's what happens when I assume.

Rob

It wasn't you 2 go back and reread the thread. That is all I'm going to say.

(10-15-2013 09:17 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 08:24 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 04:56 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I guess I must be obtuse. I don't see a reprimand by me of you. You are going to have to be very specific of where it is. The only thing I said was let's continue the Army discussion here, because the Army game thread was blocked. I do not see how that is reprimanding you in any way.
I have gone over all the threads about discussions where your name comes up, and whether I even responded. I see nothing of a reprimand in any of my discussions with you or anyone.

Ken,

My bad. I assumed you were telling me to keep my comments restricted to the ongoing thread about the Army game and not this thread.

That's what happens when I assume.

Rob

It wasn't you 2 go back and reread the thread. That is all I'm going to say.

You're one to lecture me. You make me laugh!

(10-16-2013 06:11 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 09:17 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 08:24 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 04:56 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear HuronRob,
I guess I must be obtuse. I don't see a reprimand by me of you. You are going to have to be very specific of where it is. The only thing I said was let's continue the Army discussion here, because the Army game thread was blocked. I do not see how that is reprimanding you in any way.
I have gone over all the threads about discussions where your name comes up, and whether I even responded. I see nothing of a reprimand in any of my discussions with you or anyone.

Ken,

My bad. I assumed you were telling me to keep my comments restricted to the ongoing thread about the Army game and not this thread.

That's what happens when I assume.

Rob

It wasn't you 2 go back and reread the thread. That is all I'm going to say.

You're one to lecture me. You make me laugh!

Lecture? since you 2 have been going back and forth for a few posts I was just trying to help. Just saying maybe you need to reread a post or two. An apology was given and accepted. Time to move on.

Dear Friends,
What about recruiting? Eastern only has four recruits so far. Is it fair to them to keep English till the end? I don't want Ms. Lyke to rush into hiring, but if English is kept until the season is over, we only have a couple of months before signing day. Maybe this will be a lost year in recruiting?

Dear HuronRob,
Thanks. I was thinking maybe I wrote something in my sleep!

I think this is the downside to the English situation, we are hurting ourself with recruiting by the AD not making a statement about the coaching situation. It's better now then later to find out if a kid will change his mind at the last second.

The way that its headed now, we will not be getting the same type of kids that we had ((3 & 4 stars). The question we need to ask outselves is would you allow your daughter/son come to a situation like this?

Yes something from the AD on the coaching situation would be helpful. Generally when there is a coaching change one of the first things a new coach does is evaluate the verbals and decide whether they want them. All four of our verbals seem to be solid players so I would think a new coach would be interested in keeping them, but look at what Fleck did at WMU when he became coach.

We didn't make the coaching change last year because my understanding is that there is one regent who solidly backed English (and also Glenn Bryant) and probably the cost of a buyout.

Can anyone see a scenario where English returns next year? I can't. By announcing the position will be open next year at least potential coaches can think about applying once the season is over. Its critical to give the new coach more time to recruit.

(10-17-2013 09:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Yes something from the AD on the coaching situation would be helpful. Generally when there is a coaching change one of the first things a new coach does is evaluate the verbals and decide whether they want them. All four of our verbals seem to be solid players so I would think a new coach would be interested in keeping them, but look at what Fleck did at WMU when he became coach.

We didn't make the coaching change last year because my understanding is that there is one regent who solidly backed English (and also Glenn Bryant) and probably the cost of a buyout.

Can anyone see a scenario where English returns next year? I can't. By announcing the position will be open next year at least potential coaches can think about applying once the season is over. Its critical to give the new coach more time to recruit.

I know. I'm kind of baffled by the lack of news too. I'm getting the impression that there will not be a mid-season change in the head coaching position. It looks as though the AD is content to allow Ron English to finish out his contract with EMU. At this point it probably doesn't matter much. We have at least a few more years of futility ahead of us and that's assuming EMU ends it's relationship with Ron English and EMU hires a coach who turns things around.

(10-17-2013 11:15 AM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Yes something from the AD on the coaching situation would be helpful. Generally when there is a coaching change one of the first things a new coach does is evaluate the verbals and decide whether they want them. All four of our verbals seem to be solid players so I would think a new coach would be interested in keeping them, but look at what Fleck did at WMU when he became coach.

We didn't make the coaching change last year because my understanding is that there is one regent who solidly backed English (and also Glenn Bryant) and probably the cost of a buyout.

Can anyone see a scenario where English returns next year? I can't. By announcing the position will be open next year at least potential coaches can think about applying once the season is over. Its critical to give the new coach more time to recruit.

I know. I'm kind of baffled by the lack of news too. I'm getting the impression that there will not be a mid-season change in the head coaching position. It looks as though the AD is content to allow Ron English to finish out his contract with EMU. At this point it probably doesn't matter much. We have at least a few more years of futility ahead of us and that's assuming EMU ends it's relationship with Ron English and EMU hires a coach who turns things around.

Talked to someone today and was told the AD has a lot of things going on and that the coaching situation isn't high on her list of things to get done.

(10-17-2013 03:47 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 11:15 AM)HuronRob Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:24 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Yes something from the AD on the coaching situation would be helpful. Generally when there is a coaching change one of the first things a new coach does is evaluate the verbals and decide whether they want them. All four of our verbals seem to be solid players so I would think a new coach would be interested in keeping them, but look at what Fleck did at WMU when he became coach.

We didn't make the coaching change last year because my understanding is that there is one regent who solidly backed English (and also Glenn Bryant) and probably the cost of a buyout.

Can anyone see a scenario where English returns next year? I can't. By announcing the position will be open next year at least potential coaches can think about applying once the season is over. Its critical to give the new coach more time to recruit.

I know. I'm kind of baffled by the lack of news too. I'm getting the impression that there will not be a mid-season change in the head coaching position. It looks as though the AD is content to allow Ron English to finish out his contract with EMU. At this point it probably doesn't matter much. We have at least a few more years of futility ahead of us and that's assuming EMU ends it's relationship with Ron English and EMU hires a coach who turns things around.

Talked to someone today and was told the AD has a lot of things going on and that the coaching situation isn't high on her list of things to get done.

And this, my friends, is why we're arguably the worst FBS program in NCAA history.