Is the USA-Navy game in jeopardy?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...story.html

doubtful, but maybe.

I don't think this non-sense will last that long.

(10-01-2013 08:23 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  doubtful, but maybe.

I don't think this non-sense will last that long.

I am pretty sure this will all be settled way before South visits Annapolis.

(10-01-2013 10:07 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(10-01-2013 08:23 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  doubtful, but maybe.

I don't think this non-sense will last that long.

I am pretty sure this will all be settled way before South visits Annapolis.

Supposedly this is about travel restrictions. So if it is a home game they should be able to play.

But the truth is that they shut down open air memorials so they may just cancel the whole season and make it as painful as possible on as many people as possible.

Western plays Army before USA plays Navy but I think it gets settled before Nov 9th


Has anyone made the trip to Army if so how was parking and getting into the stadium?

Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

(10-02-2013 01:19 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

air force athletic department has been furloughed. teams are practicing, but the game is still cancelled as is Army game. The AF-Navy game generated over 4 million in revenue for the academy and probably has an economic impact over 10 million for annapolis. all that money is flushed.

The federal government is run by idiots that don't understand simple economics. It is our own fault for electing these fools.

(10-02-2013 01:19 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

Nothing has been canceled yet

(10-02-2013 07:51 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The federal government is run by idiots that don't understand simple economics. It is our own fault for electing these fools.

I suspect a lot of them know economics but choose to ignore economics. Remember "West Wing" and "Parks and Rec" are the only places where people speaking the truth to the public can win elections and Leslie is under recall petition.

I can tell you from bitter experience that most gov't agencies have two issues. #1. Do the job you are mandated to do. #2. Try to do it better than mandated.

I've watched "good government" people come in and amp up the capacity to do #1 (hire more clerks, cut processing time, shorten waits) but those good government people won't allocate resources to #2. Making sure that errors get caught, spot checking the validity of claims and compliance. Yet I've seen agency directors take a broad reading of some their appropriations and move some (not enough) resources to doing just those things. Then the next "good government" crowd comes in and wants to eliminate "waste, fraud, and abuse" and they cut the appropriation. The agency head knows his boss will be mad if wait times etc go up too much so they transfer the few compliance people they have to replace the front-line positions lost.

By cutting funds the chances of catching errors, waste, fraud and abuse decrease.

I've watched it at the city level, the county level, the state level and Federal level. It's the same story over and over.

It's not really even about this party or that party. It's just an ugly cycle and the cycle is driven by voters who rage about long waits and long processing times and when it becomes politically popular it gets addressed and when the budget is increased to resolve it the public is mad that it costs too much. The public likes the sound of stopping waste, fraud, and abuse but they don't like being involved in a spot check investigation to see if they are part of the waste, fraud, and abuse so they don't really want to pay for the investigators required even though the money spent on them can end up saving more money than a budget cut.

If the public wanted common sense they'd vote for it.

(10-02-2013 08:44 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 01:19 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

Nothing has been canceled yet

If they don't play this week it will probably be postponed to Dec 7th. Neither have a scheduled game that week. The MWC's championship game is that day but with 4 conference losses already I doubt the Air Force Academy will have a conflict that day.

(10-02-2013 09:16 AM)97App Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 08:44 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 01:19 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

Nothing has been canceled yet

If they don't play this week it will probably be postponed to Dec 7th. Neither have a scheduled game that week. The MWC's championship game is that day but with 4 conference losses already I doubt the Air Force Academy will have a conflict that day.

much of this kind of stuff was budgeted long ago. I could see them having to scramble for incidentals like people for traffic control and security. of course a few months ago when there was another budget showdown, some emails were found whereby top gov. officials were putting out the word to "make it as painful for the folks as possible". so I imagine that it will be a drama right up to the last minute.

(10-02-2013 09:32 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 09:16 AM)97App Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 08:44 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 01:19 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the service academy teams even playing?
They cancelled the Navy -vs- Air Force game because of the federal government
partial closing. Maybe it was just because it was two service academies playing
each other.

Nothing has been canceled yet

If they don't play this week it will probably be postponed to Dec 7th. Neither have a scheduled game that week. The MWC's championship game is that day but with 4 conference losses already I doubt the Air Force Academy will have a conflict that day.

much of this kind of stuff was budgeted long ago. I could see them having to scramble for incidentals like people for traffic control and security. of course a few months ago when there was another budget showdown, some emails were found whereby top gov. officials were putting out the word to "make it as painful for the folks as possible". so I imagine that it will be a drama right up to the last minute.

Well budgeted by the academy but not funded.

The primary issue is the furlough of the civilian employees and the inability to pay per diem for non-essential travel. The academy cannot incur that debt because it isn't essential to their mission.

(10-02-2013 07:51 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The federal government is run by idiots that don't understand simple economics. It is our own fault for electing these fools.

They know economics. Just check their personal bank accounts.

It was reported on ESPN that the academies games would be played this weekend without using government money.

Not sure some of you saw it, but some media networks were reporting academy games cancelled,
then they were not, then maybe, etc. So evidently not, but why are they putting out information
like that. Was kind of like the WW2 memorial. Sounds as if someone is using their games to get
people upset about the budget not being passed.

For Example This Statement:
USA Today reports that the suspensions of athletics at the service academies will last through the government shutdown. "If the shutdown is going to extend through the weekend, then the Navy-Air Force game would be postponed, a person with knowledge of the decision process told USA TODAY Sports.
http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-col...tball-game