Seriously. I know I'm a Marshall fan. But I'm also an ECU fan. Attendance is great. Fan base is great. The team has had some amazing success over the years for a mid-major. I know the market is dogsnot, but it is only 1 hour from Raleigh.

I won't mention the ACC. The snot-noses at UNC and Duke would never have ECU in their academically "elite" conference.

No, no, no... don't you know what you've done? in before the pissing.match.


However I will say this. I'd love Sec.

Reasons for not:
They want state or unc
We are 20 spots from their lowest academic rankings.
They like flagships and not schools with directions

Reasons for:
Screw the ACC, we would immediately out recruit all NC schools, steal va recruits, put 65k in the stands, become the premier athletic program in NC and piss off unc/ncsu.
Atheletics is the front porch of a university. More students apply/academics goes up from more funding, selectivity.
We would mold opinions of the name to our favor lome southern cal.


There is a very long thread about it on the SEC board, those folks would love some new posts to read, don't let the thread die.

I know right, send the invite already SEC. No but actually I heard it is all but a done deal. Problem is the presser was accidentally scheduled for February 29th so now we've got to wait till 2016 to announce it and move forward.

Yes, I did post that!

But seriously. Vanderbuilt? Miss. State? What do they offer that ECU doesn't?

Beats the hell out of me.

If I missed an ECU fan posting about us being SEC worthy and this is a joke thread you got me. Haha.

Though I mean what I said in the earlier post (and plenty of non ecu fans agree) the biggest reason we won't get innis that the SEC doesnt need to take the gamble, no matter how favorable the odds are. They can afford to wait for the sure thing/ who they want.

(09-27-2013 03:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  If I missed an ECU fan posting about us being SEC worthy and this is a joke thread you got me. Haha.

Dead serious, and I bleed Kelly Green. I'm just looking at it from a purely analytical standpoint. It's really amazing to me that nobody from a P5 conference has picked them up...and I think SEC is the best fit (ACC would be better if not for the unwarranted snobbery of the conference).

In that case see the bold edit for my most neutral reason.

(09-27-2013 03:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  If I missed an ECU fan posting about us being SEC worthy and this is a joke thread you got me. Haha.

Though I mean what I said in the earlier post (and plenty of non ecu fans agree) the biggest reason we won't get innis that the SEC doesnt need to take the gamble, no matter how favorable the odds are. [b]They can afford to wait for the sure thing/ who they want.[/b]

I would imagine the SEC would love to be in NC and VA. If they won't make a move until they get an ACC team from those states then they probably won't ever move. If by some chance a North Carolina or NC St did go to the SEC, maybe ECU would finally punch a ticket to the ACC. You certainly have the fan base for it.

(09-27-2013 03:59 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  If I missed an ECU fan posting about us being SEC worthy and this is a joke thread you got me. Haha.

Though I mean what I said in the earlier post (and plenty of non ecu fans agree) the biggest reason we won't get innis that the SEC doesnt need to take the gamble, no matter how favorable the odds are. [b]They can afford to wait for the sure thing/ who they want.[/b]

I would imagine the SEC would love to be in NC and VA. If they won't make a move until they get an ACC team from those states then they probably won't ever move. If by some chance a North Carolina or NC St did go to the SEC, maybe ECU would finally punch a ticket to the ACC. You certainly have the fan base for it.

I'd like to think they'd make a move if state/unc said no and our academics improve. We jumped like 18 spots last year... if we do it again.....who knows.

(09-27-2013 03:41 PM)Greg H Wrote:  Yes, I did post that!

But seriously. Vanderbuilt? Miss. State? What do they offer that ECU doesn't?

All the SEC schools except MAYBE Vandy have better academics, bigger endowment, better overall athletics, bigger brand name, more fans & more political pull in their respective states. We just aren't what they're looking for right now. If we went on a Boise St type of run it could improve our brand greatly. Also need improve our academic ranking at the very least to the low to middle of the pack SEC schools. Then maybe we would become much more attractive.

People seem to forget that college presidents (ie, academic egg heads) are the one's that make these decisions. They prefer #1 - flagships, #2 - land grants, #3 - private schools. There's only one "#3 in their state" public school in the Power 5, Texas Tech. The lowest US News rank for a P5 school is something like #170 (WVU I think). ECU checks in at #181.

There are 44 pages of posts about it on the SEC board... beginning in 2004.

Page 36 addresses a lot of points.

And there's this. And this.

We have a lot of work to do before we are anywhere near SEC level.

Perfect combo would be to add ECU and Virginia Tech to get the states of NC and VA. Both schools are very similar. UNC and UVA do not fit in with the SEC. NC State does, but not sure if they would leave the ACC.

However we fit the SEC profile more than any other conference. Football and Baseball driven.

(09-27-2013 03:32 PM)Greg H Wrote:  Seriously. I know I'm a Marshall fan. But I'm also an ECU fan. Attendance is great. Fan base is great. The team has had some amazing success over the years for a mid-major. I know the market is dogsnot, but it is only 1 hour from Raleigh.

I won't mention the ACC. The snot-noses at UNC and Duke would never have ECU in their academically "elite" conference.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but several of the programs in BCS conferences would leave their current situations if they were invited to the SEC. I can't see why ECU would even get a look. Every program in the ACC would jump at the opportunity to join the SEC, and all but Oklahoma and Texas would be willing to leave the Big 12. I think the AAC is going to be ECU's home for a long, long time. I know it isn't the conference ECU was planning on joining, but it is what it is.

(09-27-2013 05:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:32 PM)Greg H Wrote:  Seriously. I know I'm a Marshall fan. But I'm also an ECU fan. Attendance is great. Fan base is great. The team has had some amazing success over the years for a mid-major. I know the market is dogsnot, but it is only 1 hour from Raleigh.

I won't mention the ACC. The snot-noses at UNC and Duke would never have ECU in their academically "elite" conference.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but several of the programs in BCS conferences would leave their current situations if they were invited to the SEC. I can't see why ECU would even get a look. Every program in the ACC would jump at the opportunity to join the SEC, and all but Oklahoma and Texas would be willing to leave the Big 12. I think the AAC is going to be ECU's home for a long, long time. I know it isn't the conference ECU was planning on joining, but it is what it is.

Wrong about that one. VT turned the SEC down. You don't think the SEC tried to get UNC or NCSU? Do you honestly think adding Mizzou to the East was the 1st choice to pair with TAMU? A lot of people underestimate the security the ACC has in reality.

(09-27-2013 05:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:32 PM)Greg H Wrote:  Seriously. I know I'm a Marshall fan. But I'm also an ECU fan. Attendance is great. Fan base is great. The team has had some amazing success over the years for a mid-major. I know the market is dogsnot, but it is only 1 hour from Raleigh.

I won't mention the ACC. The snot-noses at UNC and Duke would never have ECU in their academically "elite" conference.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but several of the programs in BCS conferences would leave their current situations if they were invited to the SEC. I can't see why ECU would even get a look. Every program in the ACC would jump at the opportunity to join the SEC and all but Oklahoma and Texas would be willing to leave the Big 12. I think the AAC is going to be ECU's home for a long, long time. I know it isn't the conference you guys were planning on joining, but it is what it is.

Texas teams don't know much about the East Coast I'm learning from these boards. Catch up to the debate by reading the other thread.

Here's the short version of why your post is ignorant of the current facts...

"The ACC announced Monday that its presidents have signed a Grant of Rights agreement through 2026-27. That means the conference now owns its 15 current and future members' television rights for the duration of that period, effectively blocking those schools from joining another conference (because what conference would add a school if it can't cash in on its television revenue)? The Big 12's own six-year Grant of Rights agreement reached in October 2011 (and since extended through 2025) greatly stabilized that then-tenuous conference, allowing it to add TCU and West Virginia and ink an eventual long-term deal with ESPN and FOX."


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college...z2g8KOcrYe

ECU won't be invited because ya'll have lost to UAB & if you ever play UAT they will never take the chance that ya'll having lost to us that you could beat them & therefore we'd beat them. That's how screwy their thought system is

All Ncsu and VT have to do is apply. The sec would love to have unc/uva as well but they are less likely to abandon ACC... just proof that not all Acc schools would leave for SEC.

because ecu hasn't sold their collective souls to the devil. that is an SEC requirement

(09-27-2013 04:08 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:59 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  If I missed an ECU fan posting about us being SEC worthy and this is a joke thread you got me. Haha.

Though I mean what I said in the earlier post (and plenty of non ecu fans agree) the biggest reason we won't get innis that the SEC doesnt need to take the gamble, no matter how favorable the odds are. [b]They can afford to wait for the sure thing/ who they want.[/b]

I would imagine the SEC would love to be in NC and VA. If they won't make a move until they get an ACC team from those states then they probably won't ever move. If by some chance a North Carolina or NC St did go to the SEC, maybe ECU would finally punch a ticket to the ACC. You certainly have the fan base for it.

I'd like to think they'd make a move if state/unc said no and our academics improve. We jumped like 18 spots last year... if we do it again.....who knows.

Are you sure you are a Pirate? No true Pirate would never put ncsu and unc above ECU in any sentence. I BELIVE!