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Tigers2B1 · 09-25-2013 11:59 AM

http://wildcatbluenation.com/2013/09/25/...08-season/

Briskbas · 09-25-2013 12:04 PM

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umbluegray · 09-25-2013 12:05 PM

If they ask me I'd say yes. The penalty should be wiped out.

But they didn't.

Ask me, that is.

Pressed Rat · 09-25-2013 12:06 PM

"2. Memphis’ vacated 2008 Final Four

Issue: Memphis point guard Derrick Rose’s SAT test was ruled invalid in May 2008 as a result of questions about whether he actually took the test himself or not.

Penalty: Memphis’s trip to the 2008 national championship game was wiped from the record books and its 38-2 record was expunged because the NCAA ruled the school played an ineligible player.

Why it was too harsh: This penalty always seemed like one the NCAA handed down because it suspected Memphis of cheating under John Calipari but could only catch the Tigers with an ill-conceived technicality. Questions arose about the validity of an SAT test taken by Rose in May 2007, so the SAT security testing agency launched an investigation. When Rose did not cooperate with the investigation after he had already decided to turn pro, the agency canceled the test result in May 2008. As a result, the NCAA seized the opportunity to retroactively declare Rose ineligible for the previous season and hold Memphis responsible. The NCAA did all this even though it had cleared Rose to play before the season and it had no proof he cheated on the SAT or that Memphis knew about it."

It was bogus then and is still bogus. NCAA sucks

tnzazz · 09-25-2013 12:24 PM

It should happen, but won't.

UofMemphis · 09-25-2013 12:27 PM

If we asked for that the NCAA would laugh at and give us 3 months probation just for asking...

No2rdame · 09-25-2013 12:59 PM

Well, the NCAA is rescinding penalties against Penn St for the sexual abuse scandal so there is no reason they shouldn't do the same for us. Of course, we don't bring in the kind of $$$ Penn State does, so they have no problem hanging the Tigers out to dry.

memphistiger89 · 09-25-2013 01:02 PM

I'm sure Kentucky fans would love to see the Tiger's penalty reduced, not because they care what happens to Memphis, but because they think Cal will look a little less sleazy.

Tony85 · 09-25-2013 01:25 PM

(09-25-2013 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote: I'm sure Kentucky fans would love to see the Tiger's penalty reduced, not because they care what happens to Memphis, but because they think Cal will look a little less sleazy.

Exactly MT89. If X was coaching somewhere else they wouldn't care. In fact, they would take the opposite view and go back to calling him a cheater.

RADFORD · 09-25-2013 01:29 PM

It's Yahoo that is saying it. Kentucky just has it on their site because they want Calipari cleared.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-...ncaab.html

TigerTitan · 09-25-2013 01:34 PM

"Should Memphis' 2008 penality be reduced?"

03-confused

Penality or Penility?

TIGERCITY · 09-25-2013 01:37 PM

Yep ---- Let us hang our banner and 'officially' give us back our wins. We've served our probation -

bubbapt · 09-25-2013 01:37 PM

When asked directly by the NCAA during the hearing, the university's legal counsel admitted to using an ineligible player, instead of simply reiterating (rightly) that the player had been eligible because the SAT score had already been cleared by the NCAA's own clearinghouse.

It should have never been imposed, except that the whole matter was mishandled. Other schools have received lesser penalties, but they usually don't botch the hearings as badly as the university did.

Tygrys · 09-25-2013 01:52 PM

They will not do it. They will say that the penalties that they removing from Penn State are future penalties and not prior penalties. Remember they stripped Penn State of wins from multiple years, although I cannot remember how many exactly. They are not going to reinstate those wins to Penn State and they are not going to reinstate our season. The ruling we received is a complete joke and everybody realizes it, unfortunately the NCAA will never admit it.

tigerderek · 09-25-2013 01:54 PM

1.we did stupid **** during the investigation as pointed out earlier.
2.M'F THE NCAA...Cal too just for the heck of it.

Dynamos · 09-25-2013 01:59 PM

I dont understand why the punishment is considered severe. Its like if a bank robber robs a bank but instead of going to jail his only punishment upon getting caught is being forced to give the money back. We didnt lose scholarships or get a postseason ban or anything. How did it really hurt us?

TIGERCITY · 09-25-2013 02:02 PM

Assuming 'we' did stupid stuff during the investigation -- all the more reason to revisit the penalties IMO.

On the distinction made between 'prior penalties' and 'future penalties' I'm not sure what that even means or why it makes a difference. Certainly we've already served the probation period - understand that - but reversing the decision on the wins and banner?

tigerderek · 09-25-2013 02:05 PM

In the grand scheme of things it isnt but I would love to have the guys names and the banner hanging in the rafters though...

Also,the strict liability thing left all of us with a sour taste in our mouths cause its bull****.

TIGERCITY · 09-25-2013 02:05 PM

(09-25-2013 01:59 PM)Dynamos Wrote: I dont understand why the punishment is considered severe. Its like if a bank robber robs a bank but instead of going to jail his only punishment upon getting caught is being forced to give the money back. We didnt lose scholarships or get a postseason ban or anything. How did it really hurt us?

Well, using your analogy, since there's no real evidence that we even robbed a bank the money we "give back" actually belongs to us.

shafted1 · 09-25-2013 02:08 PM

Kentucky's motivation shouldn't be an issue to Tiger Nation. The fact remains that they're at least talking about it which is better than any other program to our knowledge. That says something for Kentucky fans. Their discussion stems from an article posted on Yahoo Sports' the Dagger.

Jeff Eisenberg raised questions about the excessive harshness of NCAA penalties involving USC, Memphis, Old Dominion and Baylor. The discussion on Kentucky's board suggest Eisenberg struck a chord with his article. Regardless of who initiates the conversation, it is in Tiger Nation's best interest to be gracious toward anyone willing to speak on our behalf. There's logic in the old adage, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." That same logic needs to apply here!

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