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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 04:33 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Sanders is just as sick and tired, as we all are, of being "hoodwinked" by the Board of Trustees for them not putting the on campus stadium on the "agenda".

What makes me just as sick is hearing some of you say "Lets put more bodies in the stands, and win more games. That'll show them". Oh my gosh, how lame. Makes me want to barf.

So, do you have any better ideas, that don't involve people with priorities beyond an OCS (who aren't you) committing professional suicide?
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 04:33 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Sanders is just as sick and tired, as we all are, of being "hoodwinked" by the Board of Trustees for them not putting the on campus stadium on the "agenda".

What makes me just as sick is hearing some of you say "Lets put more bodies in the stands, and win more games. That'll show them". Oh my gosh, how lame. Makes me want to barf.

Take a Tums and you'll feel better
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 02:06 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 01:40 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Getting rid of the academic restrictions would go a long way

I haven't always felt this way, but I don't think our academic restrictions hold us back athletically at all. Is there a recruit that we recently lost to another D1 school because they didn't qualify for UAB? I know there are a couple that had to go JuCo, but doesn't that mean they wouldn't have gotten in anywhere?

I can't speak specifically about current recruits...but I can tell you for fact that many of the greatest Blazers of all time would never have worn green and gold if it weren't for exceptions made to the general admissions requirements.
Since we no longer make those exceptions, I bet we're missing out on some potentially great players
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
I can kinda see where Gary is coming from.

Put the item on the agenda, have an intelligent (I use this term lightly) conversation/debate about the issue. That way they can voice their concerns in a public forum and UAB (and everyone else interested in the project) can know exactly what needs to be done. Not just speculation and hints. We need a specific road map. We weren't given the opportunity to obtain one.

So, we start winning and the attendance increases. Now, the way it was handled, they can, and probably will, bring up some other reason. You can't afford to pay your players a stipend so why should we approve an OCS or there's about to be four super conferences formed and guess what UAB ain't gonna be included so why do we need to spend the money? 03-puke

As Gary pointed out, why not even hear the motion?

I know, I'm preaching to the choir but Gary just brought the sermon back up.

Beat Vandy!
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(09-25-2013 06:28 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  UAB (and everyone else interested in the project) can know exactly what needs to be done.

That's the point, nothing "needs to be done". It should never happen. That is the view of certain powers that be on the Board.
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 06:25 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 02:06 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 01:40 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Getting rid of the academic restrictions would go a long way

I haven't always felt this way, but I don't think our academic restrictions hold us back athletically at all. Is there a recruit that we recently lost to another D1 school because they didn't qualify for UAB? I know there are a couple that had to go JuCo, but doesn't that mean they wouldn't have gotten in anywhere?

I can't speak specifically about current recruits...but I can tell you for fact that many of the greatest Blazers of all time would never have worn green and gold if it weren't for exceptions made to the general admissions requirements.
Since we no longer make those exceptions, I bet we're missing out on some potentially great players

No doubt about it.......could explain why we are hitting the state of Florida so hard. I know for a fact (recruiter told me) that it's tough to find good DL with good grades......weird sounding, but true.
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There was a road map given...it consisted of presenting a plan and "we look forward to getting this done quickly."

The last road map was bull****...if they gave another one, it would be bull**** as well
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 06:28 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  I can kinda see where Gary is coming from.

Put the item on the agenda, have an intelligent (I use this term lightly) conversation/debate about the issue. That way they can voice their concerns in a public forum and UAB (and everyone else interested in the project) can know exactly what needs to be done. Not just speculation and hints. We need a specific road map. We weren't given the opportunity to obtain one.

So, we start winning and the attendance increases. Now, the way it was handled, they can, and probably will, bring up some other reason. You can't afford to pay your players a stipend so why should we approve an OCS or there's about to be four super conferences formed and guess what UAB ain't gonna be included so why do we need to spend the money? 03-puke

As Gary pointed out, why not even hear the motion?

I know, I'm preaching to the choir but Gary just brought the sermon back up.

Beat Vandy!

That's exactly the point. Even had they heard the proposal, denied it, but offered some insight as to why and a plan in order to get it accomplished down the road, I think most rational people could respect that.

The problem here is that we were told no without hearing the funding plan. Plus, we were told to show improvement in terms of support without any specifics behind it. What sort of improvement? Improvement in season ticket sales specifically? Attendance? Student involvement? Booster donations? Of course improvement in all of those would be ideal, but how much improvement do we need to make in order to satisfy their demands to show improvement? Is 10% improvement adequate? 50%? That's just it. We still don't know unless something has been told to Mackin in private.

Right now, at least with respect to the OCS, we're aiming at a moving target. One might assume that an average attendance of 30,000 (approx. seating capacity of proposed stadium) would be sufficient, but we don't have anything written or otherwise to establish that. Maybe they would only accept 30,000 in season tickets.

The fact is, they don't want it discussed because they don't even want to consider the possibility. Whether it is financially feasible isn't really their concern. Folks can call it conspiracy, but what other explanation can you offer that the issue isn't even discussed in an intellectual manner through a democratic process in which the issue is debated publicly and voted upon? I can't think of any explanation that doesn't involve what some want to call "conspiracy."

Having said all of that, again, I think it is important to move forward with ANY facility improvements we can get approved. These things should be done in a thoughtful manner so that it compliments what we hope will come to pass in the future with an OCS. Folks that want to see change just need to be prepared when this campaign kicks off next month.
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 06:33 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 06:25 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 02:06 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 01:40 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Getting rid of the academic restrictions would go a long way

I haven't always felt this way, but I don't think our academic restrictions hold us back athletically at all. Is there a recruit that we recently lost to another D1 school because they didn't qualify for UAB? I know there are a couple that had to go JuCo, but doesn't that mean they wouldn't have gotten in anywhere?

I can't speak specifically about current recruits...but I can tell you for fact that many of the greatest Blazers of all time would never have worn green and gold if it weren't for exceptions made to the general admissions requirements.
Since we no longer make those exceptions, I bet we're missing out on some potentially great players

No doubt about it.......could explain why we are hitting the state of Florida so hard. I know for a fact (recruiter told me) that it's tough to find good DL with good grades......weird sounding, but true.

It is hard to find quality D-Lineman period. That isn't new or insightful information.
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
I thought our higher academic standards were the direct result of an agreement between Carol and the NCAA because of our very very bad APR rates rather than losing scholarships, and being banned from post season.

Our APR should be near normal by now (remember its a four year average) and after a couple of years at that threshold - we could change our standards back to normal - did I dream the last part


(09-25-2013 02:25 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 02:06 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 01:40 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Getting rid of the academic restrictions would go a long way

I haven't always felt this way, but I don't think our academic restrictions hold us back athletically at all. Is there a recruit that we recently lost to another D1 school because they didn't qualify for UAB? I know there are a couple that had to go JuCo, but doesn't that mean they wouldn't have gotten in anywhere?

Yes... It's not that cut in dry though. We recruit guys that are close to meeting our standards knowing they have the possibility of getting there. Some of those guys commit to us. Once their fall semester is done we know whether they are going to make it or not. If they do, they (hopefully) stay committed; if they don't, we quit recruiting them and they decommit and go to Troy or Southern Miss or wherever. Every year since we put the standards in place we lose commits just after christmas break is over when they have their first semester grades and we know where they stand. Many of those players are guys we have had to say "Sorry, we can't get you in school" to.

(09-25-2013 02:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Our pool of athletes to choose from is much much smaller. There is a laundry list of kids we simply could not get in school. many we have to face in C-USA or when we play a belt school in both basketball and football. There are kids we simply do not recruit because we simply cannot waste the time and effort on a kid we know we will never get in school on our limited budget.

Some folks are fine with that and that's fine. Just don't get pissed when we don't recruit Johnny Doe and he goes to Southern Miss and throws 5 TD passes on our defense.
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(09-25-2013 09:47 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:32 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We need to stop bickering among ourselves and put butts in the seats at home. Until we can average more than is required to pay for the stadium we give our leaders no chance to get this approved. Yea I know win games and they will come. Well we need to do both. I still think we will have a successful season and we all need to do our part and show up and encourage others to come to games as well.

We need a nice crowd for FAU.

Chicken and egg, egg and chicken.

Our chick will not hatch. Time to get a fresh egg.

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"Pharaoh" decrees we must make bricks without straw. And you're right, no other university has to do so much with so little as UAB.
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 02:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Our pool of athletes to choose from is much much smaller. There is a laundry list of kids we simply could not get in school. many we have to face in C-USA or when we play a belt school in both basketball and football. There are kids we simply do not recruit because we simply cannot waste the time and effort on a kid we know we will never get in school on our limited budget.

Some folks are fine with that and that's fine. Just don't get pissed when we don't recruit Johnny Doe and he goes to Southern Miss and throws 5 TD passes on our defense.

Doesn't UAB have one of the 3 smallest recruiting budgets in Conference USA?

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(09-25-2013 06:49 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 06:33 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 06:25 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 02:06 PM)Dracarys Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 01:40 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  Getting rid of the academic restrictions would go a long way

I haven't always felt this way, but I don't think our academic restrictions hold us back athletically at all. Is there a recruit that we recently lost to another D1 school because they didn't qualify for UAB? I know there are a couple that had to go JuCo, but doesn't that mean they wouldn't have gotten in anywhere?

I can't speak specifically about current recruits...but I can tell you for fact that many of the greatest Blazers of all time would never have worn green and gold if it weren't for exceptions made to the general admissions requirements.
Since we no longer make those exceptions, I bet we're missing out on some potentially great players

No doubt about it.......could explain why we are hitting the state of Florida so hard. I know for a fact (recruiter told me) that it's tough to find good DL with good grades......weird sounding, but true.

It is hard to find quality D-Lineman period. That isn't new or insightful information.

Our last 2 classes bear that out......VERY few DL-types in those 2 combined classes. I was glad to get the Smith kid out of Memphis last year though.
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(09-25-2013 09:19 PM)Matrix Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 02:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Our pool of athletes to choose from is much much smaller. There is a laundry list of kids we simply could not get in school. many we have to face in C-USA or when we play a belt school in both basketball and football. There are kids we simply do not recruit because we simply cannot waste the time and effort on a kid we know we will never get in school on our limited budget.

Some folks are fine with that and that's fine. Just don't get pissed when we don't recruit Johnny Doe and he goes to Southern Miss and throws 5 TD passes on our defense.

Doesn't UAB have one of the 3 smallest recruiting budgets in Conference USA?

#We'reScrewed

I'm not sure that is still the case with the new teams coming into the league.
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(09-25-2013 03:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  I liked where Gary also mentioned UAH's problem too as there're 3 universities in the system not 1

I wasn't sure where Sanders was going with that. UAH's new president reinstated the hockey program. I think they still need to get in a conference to be truly viable, but the team still has a pulse.
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(09-25-2013 03:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  I liked where Gary also mentioned UAH's problem too as there're 3 universities in the system not 1

I wasn't sure where Sanders was going with that. UAH's new president reinstated the hockey program. I think they still need to get in a conference to be truly viable, but the team still has a pulse.
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UAB is not 1-3, at least not yet.
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-25-2013 05:50 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 04:33 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Sanders is just as sick and tired, as we all are, of being "hoodwinked" by the Board of Trustees for them not putting the on campus stadium on the "agenda".

What makes me just as sick is hearing some of you say "Lets put more bodies in the stands, and win more games. That'll show them". Oh my gosh, how lame. Makes me want to barf.

Take a Tums and you'll feel better
What can I take for....constipation?
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RE: UAB's own Gary Sanders goes off on lack of stadium on NBC13 (video)
(09-26-2013 07:04 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 05:50 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 04:33 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Sanders is just as sick and tired, as we all are, of being "hoodwinked" by the Board of Trustees for them not putting the on campus stadium on the "agenda".

What makes me just as sick is hearing some of you say "Lets put more bodies in the stands, and win more games. That'll show them". Oh my gosh, how lame. Makes me want to barf.

Take a Tums and you'll feel better
What can I take for....constipation?

a dump
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(09-26-2013 07:32 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 07:04 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 05:50 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 04:33 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Sanders is just as sick and tired, as we all are, of being "hoodwinked" by the Board of Trustees for them not putting the on campus stadium on the "agenda".

What makes me just as sick is hearing some of you say "Lets put more bodies in the stands, and win more games. That'll show them". Oh my gosh, how lame. Makes me want to barf.

Take a Tums and you'll feel better
What can I take for....constipation?

a dump

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