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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-25-2013 09:48 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 08:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You arguments are not very constructive.

Why are you not outraged that your tax dollars are being used to promote the acceptance of a religion?

I might be irritated about it... if that was what was happening.

But it's not.

Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

No, no, no...you got your bigoted, racist generalizations wrong, you meant Jews.

War on Christmas.

That mythical creation gives Christians enough of a victim complex to last all year long.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 08:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 12:06 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  And in trying to call the left out for generalizing, you do it yourself.

You can't help being hypocritical, huh?

I'm "left", but I fully support gun rights.

You arguments are not very constructive.

Why are you not outraged that your tax dollars are being used to promote the acceptance of a religion?

I might be irritated about it... if that was what was happening.

But it's not.

Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 08:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You arguments are not very constructive.

Why are you not outraged that your tax dollars are being used to promote the acceptance of a religion?

I might be irritated about it... if that was what was happening.

But it's not.

Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  I might be irritated about it... if that was what was happening.

But it's not.

Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I would have been suprised. I can say that much.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  I might be irritated about it... if that was what was happening.

But it's not.

Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.
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Post: #106
Re: RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

So are blacks

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016
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Post: #107
RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Yes..it is. Now tell us how you would react if the FDA put out an ad that propagated Christians and portrayed them as victims...

Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 10:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Well, Christians don't need help doing that. They do it well enough on their own.

That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?

You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  ...words.... Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone...more words.....

How so? I'm asking in regards to mainstream Christianity, not the West Boro Baptist Heathens.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  That's not an answer. Try to be honest with yourself and the rest of us on this forum. Turn the tables and tell us how you would react. Trust me, I already know, but I am giving you a chance to be real.

Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?

You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.

Answer the question. Stop squirming.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 06:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-25-2013 09:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Hes making a generalization that he criticizes others for. Do you really expect an honest answer?

I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?

You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.

Answer the question. Stop squirming.

Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 06:43 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:14 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  I guess you're a little slow. I said I was going to start employing the Conservative tactic of making broad generalizations.

All Conservative Christians are whiny hypocrites with victim complexes, who think everyone is against them.

Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?

You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.

Answer the question. Stop squirming.

Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.

Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2013 07:59 PM by oklalittledixie.)
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 07:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:43 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 10:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Stick to the topic. Stop trying to worm out of the question. Be honest with yourself and everyone on this forum. How would you react if the FDA or USDA put out these types of videos propagating the faith and denouncing the fake atheist movement that is constantly attacking any Christian based symbolism in our society?

You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.

Answer the question. Stop squirming.

Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.

Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.

I didn't see a video doing that.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 07:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:43 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  You are adorable. Christians shove their religion down the throats of anyone and everyone, then get all pissy when people have different beliefs.

Answer the question. Stop squirming.

Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.

Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.

I didn't see a video doing that.

Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 08:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 07:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:43 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Answer the question. Stop squirming.

Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.

Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.

I didn't see a video doing that.

Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.

You are seeing what you want to see in that video. If a Republican were in office and this exact video were released, you'd have no complaints. Your issue is unfounded and thus unworthy of a response.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 09:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 07:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 06:43 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Your question addresses a fictional issue and thus doesn't deserve an answer.

Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.

I didn't see a video doing that.

Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.

You are seeing what you want to see in that video. If a Republican were in office and this exact video were released, you'd have no complaints. Your issue is unfounded and thus unworthy of a response.

So I'll try this one last time. How would you have reacted if a govt agency put out a video demonstrating how Christianity has been a pivotal force in women's right and glorifying the faith as a whole - while denouncing those who criticize the faith?
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 09:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 07:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fiction like our govt producing and distributing videos that propagate Islam?

Answer the question.

I didn't see a video doing that.

Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.

You are seeing what you want to see in that video. If a Republican were in office and this exact video were released, you'd have no complaints. Your issue is unfounded and thus unworthy of a response.

So I'll try this one last time. How would you have reacted if a govt agency put out a video demonstrating how Christianity has been a pivotal force in women's right and glorifying the faith as a whole - while denouncing those who criticize the faith?

I answered this exact question earlier. I said I would be irritated about it. But that is not what is happening here in this video with Islam.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 09:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  I didn't see a video doing that.

Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.

You are seeing what you want to see in that video. If a Republican were in office and this exact video were released, you'd have no complaints. Your issue is unfounded and thus unworthy of a response.

So I'll try this one last time. How would you have reacted if a govt agency put out a video demonstrating how Christianity has been a pivotal force in women's right and glorifying the faith as a whole - while denouncing those who criticize the faith?

I answered this exact question earlier. I said I would be irritated about it. But that is not what is happening here in this video with Islam.

LOL "irritated."

OK. Thanks for playing. Your evasion and attempts to spin the issue has outlined the left's double standard perfectly. I'm betting it would be a different story for many of your cohorts had this been about Christians.

Separation of Christianity and State. All other religions are fine and deserve our tax dollars.
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RE: Where are the "seperation of Church and State" groups now?
(09-26-2013 09:13 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 09:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-26-2013 08:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Sure you did. The videos promoted Islam as a pioneer in women’s rights and addressed a “general ignorance about what Islam is.

Answer the question. If you can't just admit it and accept that your bias has been exposed.

You are seeing what you want to see in that video. If a Republican were in office and this exact video were released, you'd have no complaints. Your issue is unfounded and thus unworthy of a response.

So I'll try this one last time. How would you have reacted if a govt agency put out a video demonstrating how Christianity has been a pivotal force in women's right and glorifying the faith as a whole - while denouncing those who criticize the faith?

I answered this exact question earlier. I said I would be irritated about it. But that is not what is happening here in this video with Islam.

LOL "irritated."

OK. Thanks for playing. Your evasion and attempts to spin the issue has outlined the left's double standard perfectly. I'm betting it would be a different story for many of your cohorts had this been about Christians.

Separation of Christianity and State. All other religions are fine and deserve our tax dollars.

No. You're forcing an issue where there shouldn't be one. If anything, Congress has been pushing Christian "morals". The gay marriage debate is there because CHRISTIANS want to deny gays rights. The abortion issue is there because of CHRISTIAN beliefs.

The problem is is that Christians push for seperation of church and state for other religions, but WANT Christianity to be a basis for laws. Can't have it both ways, kiddo.
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