(09-24-2013 07:49 AM)WNCOrange Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 04:18 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 11:41 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:14 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:05 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Orangebloods also has Tom Jurich of Louisville as the new possible AD. Wonder what Tom Terrific could do with double the money in his athletic coffers.

I have to wonder if he would make that move. Jurich has it good where he is and he has built an incredible athletic program.

And Jurich makes more $$$ currently @ Louisville then Dodds currently makes at Texas...if a "bidding" war happens Louisville will not blink....

I smell a GTS sig bet here, lol.

I can see UT going after Jurich, and failing. But I believe I know who their #2 target for AD would be, and I think he wouldn't be too hard to get either, oddly enough: look no further than the current Syracuse AD, Darryl Gross. The feeling I get most 'Cuse fans is that they don't really want him anyway, so him leaving could be seen as a good thing both ways: to Syracuse & Texas.

Gross has made some errors but over all he has been fantastic. It would be a real loss if he were to leave.

Respectfully disagree. I would pack his home for him if it helped push him out..

depends if you read the bylaws or the GOR, only takes 6 to dissolve in the bylaws since its a inc in delaware. Also, the whole GOR could be challenged.

Frank, Would you have seen TAMU and Missouri as blockbuster additions for the SEC three years ago? Solid, yes. But nothing stellar. I agree that KState is a reach...but Oklahoma State and another Texas power (besides Texas) would be real solid moves for the SEC. I say that putting my Big Ten fan homerism aside. KState I guess would just simply get them to 16 if they wanted to be at 16 (plus keep them in the KC/St.Louis market which they are already partially in).

I think all bets are off in 10 years.

All of this wild speculation is about right now...and about the 6 Big 12 teams bolting to null and void the GOR.

It takes EIGHT, it was spelled out in documents FOIA'ed recently.

Sorry to interrupt the tin foil hats though.

(09-24-2013 12:53 PM)S11 Wrote:  It takes EIGHT, it was spelled out in documents FOIA'ed recently.

Sorry to interrupt the tin foil hats though.

There is probably no way to parcel out more than 7 B12 teams.

West Va. can only go to the SEC
Iowa State can only go to the ACC
Baylor can only go the ACC
The ACC only wants Texas
The B10 only wants Texas and OU
The P12 only wants Texas and OU
The SEC probably only wants two of Kansas, OU, and Texas
TT can only go the SEC on it's own if not in a UT package

The votes are there in the ACC to add two schools - Texas or Penn State. If Texas really goes off the table, the ACC is more likely to add Navy and get ND to up it's league games than to add a B12 school.

With Texas not wanting to go west, I don't see a way for it work. Because only if Texas goes west, can four teams from the B12 go west. OU could not bring OSU west. OU might be able to bring TCU or Kansas to the P12.

The permutations seem endless, but not really - everyone wants Texas, everyone would accept OU and Kansas with Texas. Beyond that - who knows?

(09-22-2013 11:41 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:14 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:05 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Orangebloods also has Tom Jurich of Louisville as the new possible AD. Wonder what Tom Terrific could do with double the money in his athletic coffers.

I have to wonder if he would make that move. Jurich has it good where he is and he has built an incredible athletic program.

And Jurich makes more $$$ currently @ Louisville then Dodds currently makes at Texas...if a "bidding" war happens Louisville will not blink....

if you think UL can compete with UT money.

I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

i dont think that will happen

but in all honestly....if im austin

id be scared shitless right now

(09-24-2013 02:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

i dont think that will happen

but in all honestly....if im austin

id be scared shitless right now

I'm embellishing I know. But even if aTm doesn't catch them, at a minimum, the gap between the two is going to be a fraction of what it was just three years ago.

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

A&M leaving was about A&M. There is nothing Texas could have done unless they tried to fight it in the legislature. And Texas had no desire for that. I also disagree with your 2nd conclusion.

Texas should be ok. As long as the next coach isn't a John Mackovic type. Not sure if Texas could hold on to their lead in Texas if they have a 6 year period where they go 42-29(he went 41-28, but with 2 ties, so splitting there).

(09-24-2013 03:05 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 02:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

i dont think that will happen

but in all honestly....if im austin

id be scared shitless right now

I'm embellishing I know. But even if aTm doesn't catch them, at a minimum, the gap between the two is going to be a fraction of what it was just three years ago.

texas already had a much closer gap between them & their "lil bro" than most top 10 programs.

this is the last thing texas needs, and for it to happen when texas is at their absolute weakest is very damaging.

normally id say its impossible for a school like aggie to catch up to texas.....but right now its a very real possibility that these schools will be on equal program level

Do people genuinely not understand that Louisville's money is competitive with anyone else's in college sports? Do they not also understand that just because Texas et all HAVE all that money, that it doesn't mean they're going to just spend spend and spend that money? People act like these schools all operate under an "unlimited budget" mantra, and NOBODY does that. They're not going to spend an obscene amount of money to hire whoever they want just because they may have an obscene amount to spend. There's no guarantee that even the most successful of coaches is going to come to Texas and be successful, same with an Athletic Director, and the more you spend to get that person the higher the risk.

(09-24-2013 03:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

A&M leaving was about A&M. There is nothing Texas could have done unless they tried to fight it in the legislature. And Texas had no desire for that. I also disagree with your 2nd conclusion.

The situation crossed a point of no return. That much is certain. But it was a long time coming, and a lot could have happened to prevent it from ever getting to that point.

(09-24-2013 03:13 PM)john01992 Wrote:  texas already had a much closer gap between them & their "lil bro" than most top 10 programs.

this is the last thing texas needs, and for it to happen when texas is at their absolute weakest is very damaging.

Meh. It's not the end of the world for them. The Aggies have been ahead of the Horns at other points in the past.

Want an example? How about the last ten seasons of the SWC, 1986-1995. TAMU was 94-25-2 over those ten years; UT was 65-48-2.

It's cyclical, just like it is with many other rivalries.

(09-22-2013 11:41 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:14 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 10:05 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Orangebloods also has Tom Jurich of Louisville as the new possible AD. Wonder what Tom Terrific could do with double the money in his athletic coffers.

I have to wonder if he would make that move. Jurich has it good where he is and he has built an incredible athletic program.

And Jurich makes more $$$ currently @ Louisville then Dodds currently makes at Texas...if a "bidding" war happens Louisville will not blink....

So you think Louisville with all it's might and power, will over come any attempt by the University of Texas to steal away Tom Jurich? Ha, you got to be kidding. Texas made 78 million in profit last year, about 70 million more than Louisville. Tom would come running at a 10 million dollar a year contract offer. Who knows, maybe he'd hire another Kragethorpe??? Louisville would blink all day long.

(09-22-2013 02:17 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Jurich runs this athletics department here in Louisville however in the hell he wants. He doesn't have big boosters to answer to and people meddling in his affairs like he'd have in Texas. He's not leaving. Move along, folks.

Yeah, sure, that will keep him in Louisville. I can hear it now. "No, no president Powers, I can run my own ship here at the Ville. Oh yes, too many big donors will get in my way at Texas, way too many. Yes, oh yes, you can have your contract offer at 10 million per year. I just LUUUUUU, Louisville "!!!!. I can hear Tom Jurich saying that right now. ha, ha, what a stinking joke. He'll come running faster than you can say K F C.

Jurich is the key. He will be hired first, then assemble his coaching staff. He will promptly dismantle Louisville coaching staff including the baseball, and volleyball coaches in that order, followed by golf, women's hoops and NOT football. Sorry Charlie, you'll be stuck in Louisville and get hammered by ACC schools. I can hear a sucking now, there goes the program. Who knows, maybe even Pitino would join him in Texas?? Plenty of Italian establishments there to hang out in and plenty of abortion clinics. Oh Yeah !!!

All kidding aside Louisville fans, Tom Jurich is the best AD in the country in my mind. IF I were the president of the university of texas, I would have hired him yesterday !!!

(09-24-2013 04:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 03:13 PM)john01992 Wrote:  texas already had a much closer gap between them & their "lil bro" than most top 10 programs.

this is the last thing texas needs, and for it to happen when texas is at their absolute weakest is very damaging.

Meh. It's not the end of the world for them. The Aggies have been ahead of the Horns at other points in the past.

Want an example? How about the last ten seasons of the SWC, 1986-1995. TAMU was 94-25-2 over those ten years; UT was 65-48-2.

It's cyclical, just like it is with many other rivalries.

it has nothing to do with football records but brand exposure.

aggie did more in the last 3 years for their brand than what they have accomplished in the last 30

(09-24-2013 03:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 02:50 PM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  I've said it before, but it seems even more appropriate here. Texas will rue the day that they decided not to cut a deal with A&M to keep them in the Big 12.

I really think Texas's fate is set now. In ten years time, aTm will be at least even with them in the state, and probably ahead.

A&M leaving was about A&M. There is nothing Texas could have done unless they tried to fight it in the legislature. And Texas had no desire for that. I also disagree with your 2nd conclusion.

Agreed Bullet. Amazing how many people here want to lecture Texans about things they aren't really informed on.

(09-24-2013 05:01 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 02:17 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Jurich runs this athletics department here in Louisville however in the hell he wants. He doesn't have big boosters to answer to and people meddling in his affairs like he'd have in Texas. He's not leaving. Move along, folks.

Yeah, sure, that will keep him in Louisville. I can hear it now. "No, no president Powers, I can run my own ship here at the Ville. Oh yes, too many big donors will get in my way at Texas, way too many. Yes, oh yes, you can have your contract offer at 10 million per year. I just LUUUUUU, Louisville "!!!!. I can hear Tom Jurich saying that right now. ha, ha, what a stinking joke. He'll come running faster than you can say K F C.

Jurich is the key. He will be hired first, then assemble his coaching staff. He will promptly dismantle Louisville coaching staff including the baseball, and volleyball coaches in that order, followed by golf, women's hoops and NOT football. Sorry Charlie, you'll be stuck in Louisville and get hammered by ACC schools. I can hear a sucking now, there goes the program. Who knows, maybe even Pitino would join him in Texas?? Plenty of Italian establishments there to hang out in and plenty of abortion clinics. Oh Yeah !!!

All kidding aside Louisville fans, Tom Jurich is the best AD in the country in my mind. IF I were the president of the university of texas, I would have hired him yesterday !!!

I agree, Tom Jurich is the best Athletic Director in the country.

I don't know if he jumps to Texas but if I am Texas, I make that call.