It is obvuios that The ACC through their officials protected Clemson in the game against NCSU tonight to insure that their top ranked team remained undefeated. "Is as rigged". A one point lead in third quarter turned into a 13 point deficient for NCSU when the official called back a touch down that changed the momentum of the came. This is the 3rd Thursday night game this year influenced by bad officiating.
It's getting old.
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2013 09:14 PM by Rabonchild.)
(09-19-2013 09:08 PM)Rabonchild Wrote: It is obvuios that The ACC through their officials protected Clemson in the game against NCSU tonight to insure that their top ranked team remained undefeated. "Is as rigged". A one point lead in third quarter turned into a 13 point deficient for NCSU when the official called back a touch down that changed the momentum of the came. This is the 3rd Thursday night game this year influenced by bad officiating.
It's getting old.
Yep, and the thing that ticks me off is that they will review the most obvious plays and spend oodles of time doing it, but they couldn't wait to push the next play on what will most likely be the biggest turning point in the contest. Just a little time spent on a review would have shown that he never stepped out of bounds. But, they didn't even bother, on a scoring play, to look at it. Unbelievable! And I'm referring to their apology that they missed it, which the officiating booth has made before the end of the game. Oops, my bad, I threw the game, oh well, so sorry. I guess there's nothing we can do about it now!
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2013 10:37 PM by JRsec.)
It was just the law of averages. After 60 years of getting screwed by ACC officials in every way possible we were bound to benefit from one sometime.
But fret you not, I would not be surprised if Old Tarheel Johnny himself wasn't burning up the road to get to Carter-Finley to fire the crew for making a mistake that worked in Clemson's favor over someone from Tobacco Road.
(09-19-2013 10:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote: It was just the law of averages. After 60 years of getting screwed by ACC officials in every way possible we were bound to benefit from one sometime.
But fret you not, I would not be surprised if Old Tarheel Johnny himself wasn't burning up the road to get to Carter-Finley to fire the crew for making a mistake that worked in Clemson's favor over someone from Tobacco Road.
Hey, nothing against the Tigers, but what the heck does replay exist for if not a call like this one. I get so tired of looking at 30 angles of whether a guy had some minor body part touch the ground before the end zone line is crossed on a play where he clearly got his body and ball across the line, but on a play that is just that close we rush to the next play? It's pathetic. But after the missed extra point at the Syracuse / Toledo game a year ago where they reviewed a clearly missed extra point and called it good I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Kaplony is Syracuse bringing their Big East officials to the ACC? Better watch out.
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2013 10:28 PM by JRsec.)
Yep, welcome to the knowledge that everyone else already knows. @Wilkie... just wait till it's your turn to be on the wrong side of the ACC's whistle. I can't freakin wait for us to go to UNC next week and State later on.... oh wait, yes I can...
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2013 10:37 PM by ncbeta.)
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: I get so tired of looking at 30 angles of whether a guy had some minor body part touch the ground before the end zone line is crossed on a play where he clearly got his body and ball across the line, but on a play that is just that close we rush to the next play?
Quote:officials ruled Underwood stepped on the sideline at the Clemson 47 and blew the play dead, making it an unreviewable play -- TV replays appeared to show him remaining inbounds -- that led to boos raining down from the Carter-Finley Stadium stands.
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: I get so tired of looking at 30 angles of whether a guy had some minor body part touch the ground before the end zone line is crossed on a play where he clearly got his body and ball across the line, but on a play that is just that close we rush to the next play?
Quote:officials ruled Underwood stepped on the sideline at the Clemson 47 and blew the play dead, making it an unreviewable play -- TV replays appeared to show him remaining inbounds -- that led to boos raining down from the Carter-Finley Stadium stands.
The ESPN crew never pointed that out, at least not that I heard and I didn't leave the room. But, it would explain why there was no review. But to take exception to the wording above, the replay didn't appear to show that he remained in bounds. The replay showed that he remained in bounds. There's a difference. This was just a bad call all the way around as officials are supposed to mark the spot with their hat on close calls and continue the play until it can be replayed to make sure. Either way the zebras accounted for what turned into a 14 point swing in a 12 point game.
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: Kaplony is Syracuse bringing their Big East officials to the ACC? Better watch out.
Big East officials would be a step up because there are no officials worse than the ACC. Remember that the ACC has not only kept Ron Cherry as an official, he typically gets the high profile games.
The ACC....where you had a referee named Rosie Amato. Nothing against the name, but who thought it would be a good idea to hire the brother of one of your head coaches as an official? "But we do not allow him to work NC State games so there is no bias" was the official word from the ACC, but nobody would answer the question "What about the potential to effect other games to benefit the Pack. One year when Rivers was still with the Pack and Tommy Bowden hadn't had his patented collapse yet we had the upper hand over NC State in the standings. I feel pretty sure that Amato had to both have shoulder replacement surgery and replace his flag where it wore out from hitting the ground. I coached a couple years ago with a player on that team and he said that was the closest he ever saw Tommy Bowden to becoming completely unglued on the sidelines. He said he literally thought Bowden was going to go Incredible Hulk and start smashing everything.
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: Kaplony is Syracuse bringing their Big East officials to the ACC? Better watch out.
Big East officials would be a step up because there are no officials worse than the ACC. Remember that the ACC has not only kept Ron Cherry as an official, he typically gets the high profile games.
The ACC....where you had a referee named Rosie Amato. Nothing against the name, but who thought it would be a good idea to hire the brother of one of your head coaches as an official? "But we do not allow him to work NC State games so there is no bias" was the official word from the ACC, but nobody would answer the question "What about the potential to effect other games to benefit the Pack. One year when Rivers was still with the Pack and Tommy Bowden hadn't had his patented collapse yet we had the upper hand over NC State in the standings. I feel pretty sure that Amato had to both have shoulder replacement surgery and replace his flag where it wore out from hitting the ground. I coached a couple years ago with a player on that team and he said that was the closest he ever saw Tommy Bowden to becoming completely unglued on the sidelines. He said he literally thought Bowden was going to go Incredible Hulk and start smashing everything.
The SEC officials aren't perfect, and there is one group that is less capable than the others, but for the most part I've never had any complaints. We are fortunate in that regard. I can't conceive of allowing a coaches brother to officiate league games.
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: Kaplony is Syracuse bringing their Big East officials to the ACC? Better watch out.
Big East officials would be a step up because there are no officials worse than the ACC. Remember that the ACC has not only kept Ron Cherry as an official, he typically gets the high profile games.
The ACC....where you had a referee named Rosie Amato. Nothing against the name, but who thought it would be a good idea to hire the brother of one of your head coaches as an official? "But we do not allow him to work NC State games so there is no bias" was the official word from the ACC, but nobody would answer the question "What about the potential to effect other games to benefit the Pack. One year when Rivers was still with the Pack and Tommy Bowden hadn't had his patented collapse yet we had the upper hand over NC State in the standings. I feel pretty sure that Amato had to both have shoulder replacement surgery and replace his flag where it wore out from hitting the ground. I coached a couple years ago with a player on that team and he said that was the closest he ever saw Tommy Bowden to becoming completely unglued on the sidelines. He said he literally thought Bowden was going to go Incredible Hulk and start smashing everything.
The SEC officials aren't perfect, and there is one group that is less capable than the others, but for the most part I've never had any complaints. We are fortunate in that regard. I can't conceive of allowing a coaches brother to officiate league games.
We look forward to having visiting officials call games.
Think about that for a minute.
Like I said, I don't chalk this up to the ACC trying to benefit Clemson, I chalk it up to the law of averages at work after 60 years of screw jobs.
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: Kaplony is Syracuse bringing their Big East officials to the ACC? Better watch out.
Big East officials would be a step up because there are no officials worse than the ACC. Remember that the ACC has not only kept Ron Cherry as an official, he typically gets the high profile games.
The ACC....where you had a referee named Rosie Amato. Nothing against the name, but who thought it would be a good idea to hire the brother of one of your head coaches as an official? "But we do not allow him to work NC State games so there is no bias" was the official word from the ACC, but nobody would answer the question "What about the potential to effect other games to benefit the Pack. One year when Rivers was still with the Pack and Tommy Bowden hadn't had his patented collapse yet we had the upper hand over NC State in the standings. I feel pretty sure that Amato had to both have shoulder replacement surgery and replace his flag where it wore out from hitting the ground. I coached a couple years ago with a player on that team and he said that was the closest he ever saw Tommy Bowden to becoming completely unglued on the sidelines. He said he literally thought Bowden was going to go Incredible Hulk and start smashing everything.
The SEC officials aren't perfect, and there is one group that is less capable than the others, but for the most part I've never had any complaints. We are fortunate in that regard. I can't conceive of allowing a coaches brother to officiate league games.
We look forward to having visiting officials call games.
Think about that for a minute.
Like I said, I don't chalk this up to the ACC trying to benefit Clemson, I chalk it up to the law of averages at work after 60 years of screw jobs.
I chalk it up to the ACC making sure they keep a team in the top 5
Any referee in college football or the NFL should know that you always let a play go when it's in the sidelines and THEN review it. Poor NC State. They were gonna take the lead too. Screw Clemson, they'll lose to Maryland anyway... Bet on it.
By the way, here's the video of the NCSU TD that was called not a TD:
(09-19-2013 10:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(09-19-2013 10:45 PM)Wedge Wrote:
(09-19-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: I get so tired of looking at 30 angles of whether a guy had some minor body part touch the ground before the end zone line is crossed on a play where he clearly got his body and ball across the line, but on a play that is just that close we rush to the next play?
Quote:officials ruled Underwood stepped on the sideline at the Clemson 47 and blew the play dead, making it an unreviewable play -- TV replays appeared to show him remaining inbounds -- that led to boos raining down from the Carter-Finley Stadium stands.
The ESPN crew never pointed that out, at least not that I heard and I didn't leave the room. But, it would explain why there was no review. But to take exception to the wording above, the replay didn't appear to show that he remained in bounds. The replay showed that he remained in bounds. There's a difference. This was just a bad call all the way around as officials are supposed to mark the spot with their hat on close calls and continue the play until it can be replayed to make sure. Either way the zebras accounted for what turned into a 14 point swing in a 12 point game.
Now that I think of it, there was an NFL game a few years ago in which the Chargers got hosed on a non-reviewable call due to the official's quick (and mistaken) whistle. It was a bad call, but an even more stupid rule that prevented the use of replay to correct the mistake.
Quote:The crucial call occurred with the Broncos at the Chargers' 1-yard-line in the final minute. Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler dropped back to pass, the ball slipped out of his hands, bounced off the grass and into the arms of Chargers linebacker Tim Dobbins.
Hochuli, a former NFLRA president, ruled it an incomplete pass. Replay ruled it a fumble, but it was spotted at the 10, where the ball hit the ground, and given to Denver because the rules did not permit possession to be awarded to San Diego because the whistle had blown.
Denver went on to score a touchdown and a 2-point conversion to win 39-38.
Penn State fans have been lamenting this for years in the Big Ten. We could give you a laundry list of KEY missed calls in our games against the Big 2 (OSU and UM). Heck, those bad calls are probably the reason that Paterno lobbied so hard for instant replay...which the Big Ten eventually adopted...and then the rest of the NCAA followed.
Anybody who thinks a group of refs that can have Ron Cherry wearing a white cap is competent is off their rocker. The ACC umps are too blundering to actually throw games. And if the ACC refs were throwing games to help the league, I damn sure want to know what was up with the phantom late hit GT had at home against Notre Dame in '06 on GameDay that cost us and turned the momentum of the game against us.
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