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http://www.tulanestadium.com/

That's the link for all of the information you may need.
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RE: Favorite stadium designs?
Of course I love Nippert Stadium but it's nothing like the mega stadiums around the country. The good news is it's getting a small expansion, but more important, the concourse space/concession/and restroom facilities will be updated and expanded throughout.

I've always liked to see Washington's stadium on tv and it just has a wonderful setting. Another one is the Sun Bowl. I also like the Rose Bowl. WVU has a great stadium.

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(09-19-2013 03:19 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Ford Field ought to get some awards.

By putting the club seats and skyboxes on one side:

[Image: Ford-Field-Detroit-Lions.jpg]

And the upper deck on the other side:

[Image: super-bowl-crowd.jpg]

They have created a 70,000 seat stadium with a large number of premium seats while avoiding the seemingly universal problem of other new NFL stadiums of having an incredibly high, incredibly steep upper deck. Anyone planning to build a new stadium or retrofit an old one would do well to incorporate these principles in their design.


I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.
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(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.
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(09-19-2013 03:19 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Ford Field ought to get some awards.

By putting the club seats and skyboxes on one side:

And the upper deck on the other side:

They copied the idea from Philips Arena in Atlanta, which is by far my favorite basketball arena for just that reason.

[Image: interior.jpg]

[Image: Rose_Garden_Arena_Interior.jpg]

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[Image: LuxurySuitesatPhilipsArena.jpg]

Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with stealing an idea when it's a god one like this. I had initially hoped UofL's arena would be situated like this, but since we only have two suite levels it's not too big of a deal.
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(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

Double devil's advocate. Domed stadiums are the only ones that pay for themselves. Outdoor baseball and especially football stadiums never pay for themselves due to limited use outside of games.
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(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.

If they have a retractable roof I am down with that.

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Retractable roof is so 2000's. To be en vogue now, you need to have a retractable field! That's right, the - once almost named - Pink Taco Stadium, aka, University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, AZ, has not only have a retractable roof; they have a retractable field.


[Image: turf.jpg]

That's the actual game turf sitting there. During games they roll it in and it doubles as a parking lot.

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(09-19-2013 02:28 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  what's the story behind the unusual end zone at West Virginia?

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That's where the weight room, and both locker rooms are...
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I think he means why do the stands sit so far back and have such a large opening...
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(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.


Those " fans" are all big babies?
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(09-19-2013 04:47 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  I think he means why do the stands sit so far back and have such a large opening...

Perfect spot for some portable stands!


(09-19-2013 06:15 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.


Those " fans" are all big babies?

My point about Ford Field was not about it being a dome, but its split between the upper deck and the premium seats, which creates a better experience for fans in both sections. Having a dome is a separate issue. I don't disagree that given the premium cost of live events today, a dome (retractable or permanent) guarantees a comfortable atmosphere.
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(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.

Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.

the downside to domes is that they are outdated within 20 years
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(09-19-2013 08:23 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.
Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.
the downside to domes is that they are outdated within 20 years
I don't think Jerry Jones is going to have that problem, because his stadium is years ahead of the curve...
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(09-19-2013 08:25 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 08:23 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:53 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I personally eliminate all domed stadiums from any "best stadium" discussion.
Devil's Advocate here.

One of the major issues in getting fans to show up to live sporting events is the lack of a climate-controlled atmosphere. It's easier to put all of the creature comforts in a dome than it is in an open-air stadium.

Driving rain doesn't cause a serious drop in attendance when you're playing under a dome. A lot of people ***** about paying money to watch football outside when it's 44 and rain is crashing down on the field.

Domes are very kind to spectators - even if they're not considered "pure" by some.
the downside to domes is that they are outdated within 20 years
I don't think Jerry Jones is going to have that problem, because his stadium is years ahead of the curve...

and i think indy tried to plan for that too....

but the reason why i say this because of syracuse. we had one of the most iconic stadiums in cfb for the first 5 to 10 years. but then after that it just became a bigger and bigger negative for us with each passing year. and looking at the iconic domes that have come and gone over the years, (especially in the NFL) they just dont seem to last very long.

but there is certainly a new generation of domes coming out in the NFL. maybe the technology has improved enough where these domes can be sustainable long term. however i just dont see arizona or detroit being attractive to the fans long term.

if im an NFL owner, id be thinking of a stadium that will last me the lext 50 years not the next 25
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That had nothing to do with it being a dome though. With the exception of the Palace in auburn Hills, pretty much every stadium built in the 80's was outdated after Camden Yards was built in 92. Dome, open air, or arena.
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1. San Diego State
2. Texas A&M
3. Virginia Tech
4. Alabama
5. Arizona
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(09-18-2013 02:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Aloha Stadium is full of Pyrocrete, a cementious fireproofing material that releases "waters of hydration" when near a fire.

The only problem? It is full of chlorides, which leaches out of the Pyrocrete and eats away at structural steel.

How do I know? I was involved in a multi-million dollar products liability case in the mid Nineties involving a hospital suing over Pyrocrete.

The case took years, but finally settled.

The product was definitely used at Aloha Stadium, along with many nuclear power plants and chemical plants.

That all came out in the discovery process. Bad stuff. I saw huge holes eaten in the hospital's (I represented a third party defendant) structural steel beams.

I keep waiting to hear that Aloha Stadium collapsed.

I think you'll be waiting a long time. Refurbishment work to extend the stadium's life for 20 more years was done in stages from 2008 to 2010. Support elements were sandblasted down to metal and resealed, and the steel roof was completely replaced. Additional cosmetic work was foregone but the structure is sound.

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Stadiums are a pet peeve of mine.

To answer op:
- Autzen (Oregon)
- Boone Pickens Stadium (Oklahoma State)
- Washington's new stadium seems good
- Baylor's new stadium seems good
- Doak Campbell (Florida State)


Kenan (UNC) is really underrated. If it didn't vanish among the tall pines so it looked imposing and could be appreciated in full it would be better.



To me a good stadium needs to have the fans be right on top of the field ... be designed to be loud ... have no obstructed views ... and be architecturally beautiful. A huge number of stadiums have been endlessly bolted onto over the years and it shows in their hideous jauntiness when viewed as a whole. If your stadium has a horseshoe or stands that have a "wedge" or non-complete endzone ... you have done it wrong. Iowa, Ohio State, Boise State, Florida, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Penn State, South Carolina ... all good examples of this.



Sadly, due to the razing of the original horseshoe, haphazard adding of the Edge Center, and blatantly rushed and ugly expansion to appease O'Leary in 2000 ... Bobby Dodd Stadium does not meet the visual standards of such a historic place as it is. It is still America's oldest and winningest Division I football stadium.

I would propose the following ... turning BDS into Autzen-east.


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My Humble Proposal:
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The stands would rise quickly. There is no place for the noise to go. Add overhead lighting/shade/noise retention awning(s) for bonus points. A modern day revisit of the classic horseshoe it once was. A place befitting the history, heritage, and legend of the location.

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(09-20-2013 02:11 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Aloha Stadium is full of Pyrocrete, a cementious fireproofing material that releases "waters of hydration" when near a fire.

The only problem? It is full of chlorides, which leaches out of the Pyrocrete and eats away at structural steel.

How do I know? I was involved in a multi-million dollar products liability case in the mid Nineties involving a hospital suing over Pyrocrete.

The case took years, but finally settled.

The product was definitely used at Aloha Stadium, along with many nuclear power plants and chemical plants.

That all came out in the discovery process. Bad stuff. I saw huge holes eaten in the hospital's (I represented a third party defendant) structural steel beams.

I keep waiting to hear that Aloha Stadium collapsed.

I think you'll be waiting a long time. Refurbishment work to extend the stadium's life for 20 more years was done in stages from 2008 to 2010. Support elements were sandblasted down to metal and resealed, and the steel roof was completely replaced. Additional cosmetic work was foregone but the structure is sound.

[Image: 8470553670_7a8ff7bab7_b.jpg]


Good. I hope that they got all of that crap out.

To do so, the hospital I referenced how to replace all of its structural steel, in stages, to completely eliminate the problem.
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