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RE: Tech releases 2013-2014 basketball schedule
(09-18-2013 09:48 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
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(09-18-2013 08:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about football.

You didn't make the tournament last year because you had no quality wins. You can tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about it, but that is the true reason.

Wrong again. They were able to say.."look, they played arizona and Wichita State and lost to both of them. They don't belong." Both on the road of course.
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(09-18-2013 11:22 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:48 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:33 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 08:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about football.

You didn't make the tournament last year because you had no quality wins. You can tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about it, but that is the true reason.

Wrong again. They were able to say.."look, they played arizona and Wichita State and lost to both of them. They don't belong." Both on the road of course.

No, you are wrong. Do you even pay attention to college basketball? The Selection Committee cares more about good wins than anything. They have made that perfectly clear over the past decade or so. They didn't say, oh they lost to two tournament teams, they are out. They said who in the hell did they beat? When your response is Denver and UTEP 2x, you get laughed at. If you had played NW MS Community College and SW MS Community College, you would have had the same stupid argument you did at the end of the season, but likely with a worse RPI.
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RE: Tech releases 2013-2014 basketball schedule
(09-18-2013 10:44 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 10:32 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 10:27 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

the SEC schools that Tech asked wouldn't play them

Yep, that's a part of the problem... Unfortunate... 01-lauramac2 Freakin' SEC.

You keep saying that. It's not just the SEC. We tried to schedule ACC, PAC, and MWC teams too. When you have 10 of 11 and all of your starters returning after a 28-win season, you get a lot of "thanks, but no thanks" from everyone.
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RE: Tech releases 2013-2014 basketball schedule
(09-18-2013 11:58 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 11:22 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:48 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:33 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 08:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about football.

You didn't make the tournament last year because you had no quality wins. You can tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about it, but that is the true reason.

Wrong again. They were able to say.."look, they played arizona and Wichita State and lost to both of them. They don't belong." Both on the road of course.

No, you are wrong. Do you even pay attention to college basketball? The Selection Committee cares more about good wins than anything. They have made that perfectly clear over the past decade or so. They didn't say, oh they lost to two tournament teams, they are out. They said who in the hell did they beat? When your response is Denver and UTEP 2x, you get laughed at. If you had played NW MS Community College and SW MS Community College, you would have had the same stupid argument you did at the end of the season, but likely with a worse RPI.
This.

It's not about who you lost to, but who you beat.

If USM has one good OOC win last year, they get into the tournament over MT or Boise.

Nobody really cares that you lost to a Final Four team and another tournament team. Those are excusable losses. There are no high quality wins though. It really only takes one.

You need a good win, no bad losses, and to win the majority of the games you SHOULD win and you'll generally get in unless there is an exceptional list of teams on the bubble in a given year.
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RE: Tech releases 2013-2014 basketball schedule
(09-18-2013 12:55 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 11:58 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 11:22 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:48 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 09:33 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about football.

You didn't make the tournament last year because you had no quality wins. You can tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about it, but that is the true reason.

Wrong again. They were able to say.."look, they played arizona and Wichita State and lost to both of them. They don't belong." Both on the road of course.

No, you are wrong. Do you even pay attention to college basketball? The Selection Committee cares more about good wins than anything. They have made that perfectly clear over the past decade or so. They didn't say, oh they lost to two tournament teams, they are out. They said who in the hell did they beat? When your response is Denver and UTEP 2x, you get laughed at. If you had played NW MS Community College and SW MS Community College, you would have had the same stupid argument you did at the end of the season, but likely with a worse RPI.
This.

It's not about who you lost to, but who you beat.

If USM has one good OOC win last year, they get into the tournament over MT or Boise.

Nobody really cares that you lost to a Final Four team and another tournament team. Those are excusable losses. There are no high quality wins though. It really only takes one.

You need a good win, no bad losses, and to win the majority of the games you SHOULD win and you'll generally get in unless there is an exceptional list of teams on the bubble in a given year.

My point exactly, but some are too stupid to understand that you aren't gonna get that win by playing a road game with their refs. Aint't gonna happen
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So rather than give yourself an opportunity at playing one of those teams, you'd rather play 2 games that mean nothing? It's better to play those teams on the road and pick up a loss than it is to have a schedule like Tulane did last year.(No offense Tulane, it's just a prime example of what happens)
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(09-18-2013 01:25 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  So rather than give yourself an opportunity at playing one of those teams, you'd rather play 2 games that mean nothing? It's better to play those teams on the road and pick up a loss than it is to have a schedule like Tulane did last year.(No offense Tulane, it's just a prime example of what happens)

Absolutely, we have proven for 50 years that whore games do not work. Time to try something else.
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It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?
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(09-18-2013 02:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?

Absolutely, there would have been some question in their minds,but with losing to Arizona and Wichita, it gave them the perfect excuse to leave us out. Neutral site, OK, on the road only, no way. Only bush leaguers continue to do that. Guess what, we did the whore game of all this time this year, we scheduled Louisville in a whore game with no return. Absolute stupidity.
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No, absolutely not. We have two more against 300+ RPI teams is not going to impress the Selection Committee. I don't get how else to explain it. Swap the two games, your SOS goes down, and your RPI likely gets worse too. Two more wins would would not have benefited you last year. Winning games against good teams would have. If you don't put the games on the schedule, then you have no chance of winning them.
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(09-18-2013 02:20 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?

Absolutely, there would have been some question in their minds,but with losing to Arizona and Wichita, it gave them the perfect excuse to leave us out. Neutral site, OK, on the road only, no way. Only bush leaguers continue to do that. Guess what, we did the whore game of all this time this year, we scheduled Louisville in a whore game with no return. Absolute stupidity.

I'd only be pissed off about that if I think we had zero chance to win that game. Expecting the likes of Louisville to come to Hattiesburg is a pipe dream until we keep winning consistently and upgrade our facilities.
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RE: Tech releases 2013-2014 basketball schedule
(09-18-2013 02:52 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:20 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?

Absolutely, there would have been some question in their minds,but with losing to Arizona and Wichita, it gave them the perfect excuse to leave us out. Neutral site, OK, on the road only, no way. Only bush leaguers continue to do that. Guess what, we did the whore game of all this time this year, we scheduled Louisville in a whore game with no return. Absolute stupidity.

I'd only be pissed off about that if I think we had zero chance to win that game. Expecting the likes of Louisville to come to Hattiesburg is a pipe dream until we keep winning consistently and upgrade our facilities.

Is the facility really that bad? It looked pretty good on TV last year, but I guess any facility does when it is full.
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(09-18-2013 02:55 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:52 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:20 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?

Absolutely, there would have been some question in their minds,but with losing to Arizona and Wichita, it gave them the perfect excuse to leave us out. Neutral site, OK, on the road only, no way. Only bush leaguers continue to do that. Guess what, we did the whore game of all this time this year, we scheduled Louisville in a whore game with no return. Absolute stupidity.

I'd only be pissed off about that if I think we had zero chance to win that game. Expecting the likes of Louisville to come to Hattiesburg is a pipe dream until we keep winning consistently and upgrade our facilities.

Is the facility really that bad? It looked pretty good on TV last year, but I guess any facility does when it is full.

When it's full you can't really tell how crappy it is (no complaints about that obviously). I love it, but it's an old turd that needs to be upgraded badly.
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Lady Techster's schedule came out today


RUSTON - Four games against Southeastern Conference opponents, seven games against in-state schools and its first run through Conference USA highlight the 2013-14 women's basketball schedule for Louisiana Tech, released on Wednesday.

Head coach Teresa Weatherspoon and Co. will also play 13 games against teams that participated in the postseason last year, including six NCAA qualifiers, six WNIT participants and the Women's Basketball Invitational runner-up.

The Lady Techsters marquee match-ups against AQ programs include starting the season on the road at South Carolina on Nov. 10 and then traveling to face ACC foe Virginia Nov. 16. Tech then opens its home schedule with a Nov. 23 afternoon tipoff against LSU, a team that advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament a year ago. Tech also faces Ole Miss Dec. 4 in Oxford and Texas A&M Dec. 28 in College Station.

In addition to its contest against LSU, other in-state games pepper the non-conference schedule, including home games against New Orleans (Nov. 29), UL-Lafayette (Dec. 7) and Northwestern State (Dec. 11) and road contests against Nicholls State (Dec. 2) and McNeese State (Dec. 17).

Tech also hosts two former Sun Belt foes in Arkansas State (Nov. 25) and UALR (Dec. 20).

During its first year as a member of C-USA, the Lady Techsters will play their inaugural league game on Jan. 8 when they host Southern Miss at the Thomas Assembly Center. Tech also hosts Middle Tennessee (Jan. 11), Florida Atlantic (Jan. 22), UTSA (Feb. 1), Charlotte (Feb. 12), UAB (Feb. 15), Rice (Feb. 22) and FIU (March 5).

Tech's road conference tilts include Rice (Jan. 15), East Carolina (Jan. 18), Tulane (Jan. 25), UTEP (Feb. 5), Marshall (Feb. 8), Tulsa (Feb. 19), Old Dominion (Feb. 26) and North Texas (March 1).

Home tipoff times have been altered this year with weekday games starting at 6:30 p.m. and Saturday games starting at 6 p.m. The exceptions to this are doubleheaders with the men. The one weekday doubleheader set for Dec. 11 when both the Lady Techsters and Bulldogs host Northwestern State will start at 6 p.m. while the three Saturday doubleheaders with the men will start at 5 p.m.

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(09-18-2013 02:52 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:20 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 02:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  It didn't work last year! I don't get how you can even continue on with this argument. Had you replaced Wichita State and Arizona with Alabama A&M and Mississippi Valley State, you would have had two more wins, a shittier SOS, and likely a lower RPI. In what world do you think beating those two teams would have helped you more than at least playing teams like Wichita and Arizona?

Absolutely, there would have been some question in their minds,but with losing to Arizona and Wichita, it gave them the perfect excuse to leave us out. Neutral site, OK, on the road only, no way. Only bush leaguers continue to do that. Guess what, we did the whore game of all this time this year, we scheduled Louisville in a whore game with no return. Absolute stupidity.

I'd only be pissed off about that if I think we had zero chance to win that game. Expecting the likes of Louisville to come to Hattiesburg is a pipe dream until we keep winning consistently and upgrade our facilities.

Who is expecting Louisville to come to Hattiesburg? You?
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LOUISIANA TECH

Toughest: vs. Oklahoma State (Dec. 14 in Oklahoma City)
Next toughest: at Saint Mary's (Nov. 8), at Oklahoma (Dec. 30)
The rest: Centenary (Nov. 13), Central Arkansas (Nov. 20), Gulf Coast Showcase in Naples, Fla. (Nov. 25-27), at Jackson State (Dec. 1), UL-Lafayette (Dec. 4), Southern (Dec. 7), Northwestern State (Dec. 11), McNeese State (Dec. 17), at UL-Monroe (Dec. 22), Longwood (Jan. 4)

Toughness scale (1-10): 5 -- Last season, Louisiana Tech won 27 games and cracked the AP's top 25 poll. The Bulldogs didn't reach the tournament, but they're still a potential favorite to win Conference USA in their inaugural season in the league. But they'll probably enter conference play with an inflated record. Their mid-December game against national title contender Oklahoma State is the only one that stands out. Road games against Saint Mary's and Oklahoma could be factors if Louisiana Tech is on the bubble at the end of the season. The Bulldogs' lack of quality nonconference wins hurt them last season. They at least have a shot at a few decent ones this season.


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