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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 12:09 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  
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(09-16-2013 11:27 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  EAST
1) ECU - Valiant effort saturday. Could have won.
2) Marshall - I am beyond emabarrased.
3) MTSU - Gotta do better than that against Memphis
4) UAB - BYE
5) FAU - Solid win over AAC. They suck but great win for you guys.
6) USM - Closer than I thought but your offense is still lacking.
7) FIU - Losing to Cookman? Really?!? That is beyond terrible.

West
1) Rice - Nice OOC win for you guys and CUSA
2) Tulsa - Ouch.
3) North Texas - Too close for comfort but you got the W.
4) Tulane - Wow
5) LaTech - You made Tulane look good.
6) UTSA - Schedule winnable games. Bounty games kill young programs.
7) UTEP - Got the W. That's all that matters.

New comers.
1)ODU - Nice blowout against a bad team.
2) WKU - S.Alabama? Really?!?
3) UNCC - Tough first loss guys.


CUSA went 6-7 this week. Third striaght losing week. Something has to give for us. Sure we got some nice wins with Rice over Kansas and FAU over USF(nice for them and bragging over AAC) but way too many embarrassing losses.

First and foremost our loss was the worst loss of the week. We were supposed to be contenders and have an outside shot at the BCS and then we go and get embarrassed by freaking OHIO. A team that sells their season tickets for as low as $4.50 per game, where their fans leave after their band plays, has one of the worst stadiums I have visited. Just not a good look and frankly exposed us once again. No more bragging from this guy. I apologize for my team embarrassing this conference. We could win a BCS game and I won't forget this loss. 2013 is tainted. Then there is the LaTech loss to Tulane04-jawdrop, WKU losing to S.Alabama03-puke, and FIU losing to Bethune-Cookman 01-rivals .

We are not doing ourselves any favors. The OOC record for us is going to be really bad once all is said and done. We need to get our crap together or the future is going to be bad for this conference.

Perhaps we need a little slack on the Memphis game? While we didn't play great, it is a rivalry game after all, and I'm sure Memphis players are tired of losing to us. Plus Memphis has shown signs of life since late last season. And no one else who is currently in the league except Marshall and ECU has beaten Memphis as many times as we have over the past seven seasons.

Stockstill said they only got about 40 minutes of practice time on the field during the week (which is why we're in the process of funding an indoor practice facility that will hopefully be up by this time next year).

Didn't Marshall struggle with Memphis in Huntington late last year ?

Yes and no. We were up pretty good then we started to dick around and let them back in it. A team may suck but you never take your foot off of their throat and we did just that.

Scoring was went like this.
1st Qtr - Marshal 10, Memphis 0
2nd Qtr - Marshall 7, Memphis 7
3rd Qtr - Marshall 14, Memphis 7
4th Qtr - Marshall 7, Memphis 14

So it was 10-0, then 17-7, then 31-14, then ended up 38-28.

They pulled a fake punt and did some other stuff and made a go at it in the 4th. Unti lthen it wasn't much of a game. We dicked around too many times last year and it bit us. We did the same with Houston. Our defense sucked something awful last year so when they let up it got really bad real quick.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
I like that ECU gets 2 weeks to prepare for UNC. We'll be facing 11 good players on both sides of the ball + 5 officials.

I think our offense will do much better vs UNC than we did vs VT. But I think that UNC is going to put up a lot of points. Our D proved that it can stop the run in a BIG way. We are a flat-out NASTY run stuffing defense. However, we can't stop the pass to save our lives, and that's all UNC does. Yikes.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 12:22 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I like that ECU gets 2 weeks to prepare for UNC. We'll be facing 11 good players on both sides of the ball + 5 officials.

I think our offense will do much better vs UNC than we did vs VT. But I think that UNC is going to put up a lot of points. Our D proved that it can stop the run in a BIG way. We are a flat-out NASTY run stuffing defense. However, we can't stop the pass to save our lives, and that's all UNC does. Yikes.

That's why I'm getting more angry about the opportunity we let slip away. VT was a great match up for our defense and UNC is all wrong for us. I thought we were going to win the VT game preseason, and I have always thought we'd lose this UNC game. Nothing that's happened has changed my opinion of our chances against UNC.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 11:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  If you watched our game you would know why I am apologizing. We spotted them 17 points. Especially with that fumbled on the kickoff. I have never seen a fumble like that. First off his shoulder, then his hands, then he loses it on the ground, and while looking for it spins around and kick the think 30 feet to the back of the endzone. If we would have played the way we are capable of playing we run OHIO out of their stadium. We played like crap. And Cato's last pick was one of the worst passes I have ever seen a QB in a Marshall uniform throw. Even if Evans doesn't fall down it is picked and going the other way.


Cato's pick was bad, but one of the worst passes ever? You forget Bernie Morris, Jimmie Skinner, Goch; I could go on. Hell, Pennington threw 6 INT's his first game. It was a bad game on many fronts. We just plain sucked and weren't ready to play. I think our fans and players have been reading too many articles on how good we are supposed to be.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
ECU and Rice are probably the 2 best teams. Marshall, UNT, and Tulsa are showing potential. The others are fair to middling. Tech and FIU are clearly the 2 worst teams.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 12:52 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  ECU and Rice are probably the 2 best teams. Marshall, UNT, and Tulsa are showing potential. The others are fair to middling. Tech and FIU are clearly the 2 worst teams.

Tech is not in FIU's class of bad.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
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(09-16-2013 12:52 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  ECU and Rice are probably the 2 best teams. Marshall, UNT, and Tulsa are showing potential. The others are fair to middling. Tech and FIU are clearly the 2 worst teams.

Tech is not in FIU's class of bad.

I think we can beat FIU, but no one else.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
I don't think Tulsa has shown much of anything. Now considering they were the overwhelming favorites to win the West, you have to figure they're good. But they don't look it so far.

I think UNT and East and maybe Rice have shown the most this year....just on the field.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 12:14 PM)correcamino Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Toss up
Houston - Loss
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Toss up
Tulsa - Loss
Tulane - Toss up
North Texas - Heavy lean toward North Texas
LaTech - Toss up

UNT is strong and I liked their team since before the season started. Havent really caught much other than small bits here or there but how has Thompson been this season? UTSA has one of the best run defenses in the conference and for that reason I like our chances against teams that struggle to air it out. Not chalking them up as Ws or anything like that but Id give UTSA the edge against poor passing teams.

oddly enough, thompson is the CUSA conference player of the week...he had a great game...threw it more than he ever has...completed his passes...ran for two touchdowns...looked nimble...but his consistency is a concern...need to put good games together...
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 01:21 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
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(09-16-2013 12:52 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  ECU and Rice are probably the 2 best teams. Marshall, UNT, and Tulsa are showing potential. The others are fair to middling. Tech and FIU are clearly the 2 worst teams.

Tech is not in FIU's class of bad.

I think we can beat FIU, but no one else.

Here's the College Football Poll game by game prediction for you this year. This site has been eerily accurate on North Texas for a number of years.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/analy...atech.html
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
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(09-16-2013 01:21 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 01:12 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 12:52 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  ECU and Rice are probably the 2 best teams. Marshall, UNT, and Tulsa are showing potential. The others are fair to middling. Tech and FIU are clearly the 2 worst teams.

Tech is not in FIU's class of bad.

I think we can beat FIU, but no one else.

Here's the College Football Poll game by game prediction for you this year. This site has been eerily accurate on North Texas for a number of years.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/analy...atech.html

I don't think they know our offensive woes firsthand. We would be OK if we had just a decent offense... but we just can't score 20 points on below average FBS teams and while our defense is improved, it is not good enough to hold teams under 20 points.
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T Won, I think your problems are not necessarily the whole offensive unit. You really need a good qb. Neither one was able to generate any kind of offense against Too Lame. I know that at times the offensive line failed to protect the qbs but when they did the qbs (both of them) didn't take advantage.
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How serious is the Dixon injury, TWon? Without him I could see Tech finishing last in the division.
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I think the OL is the main issue, but QB is a close 2nd. Those are pretty important parts of an offense!

Coach said Dixon looks much better in practice and is "probable" for this week. The problem with the running game is that Tulane showed the world that if you sell out to stop the run game, we can't beat you with the pass. Add to that the OL play and it just makes for an impotent offense.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-16-2013 12:14 PM)correcamino Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Toss up
Houston - Loss
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Toss up
Tulsa - Loss
Tulane - Toss up
North Texas - Heavy lean toward North Texas
LaTech - Toss up

UNT is strong and I liked their team since before the season started. Havent really caught much other than small bits here or there but how has Thompson been this season? UTSA has one of the best run defenses in the conference and for that reason I like our chances against teams that struggle to air it out. Not chalking them up as Ws or anything like that but Id give UTSA the edge against poor passing teams.

UNT passing?

Well, Mean Green QB Derek Thompson was CUSA Offensive Player of the Week based on the win last Saturday.

IMO, this team has still not jelled like I think they are going to before long. We are a good team but not a great team and most any CUSA road game this Fall I will not be comfortable in ever saying "it's an easy win" because I don't think any of those road games will be that at all; that is, unless our team goes up another level or 2 in quality.

And we play the Georgia Bulldogs this Saturday? I never say never, but play hard, stay healthy and then take the $1 million and get the hell back to Texas.

My standards are higher for North Texas than most of our younger crowd of alums and most of them know how I feel about that. When we can go back to a winning SEC school program and its home stadium and come back with a win then that is when I will say: "The Mean Green Are Back!" That happened my Junior year at North Texas when we went to Knoxville, TN, to beat what would be a 6 & 5 Vols team.

Back in that day if we had today's bowl game lineup and criteria to get in a bowl game, both North Texas and Tennessee would have gone bowling and Bill Battle may not have lost his job at UT; but of course, had he not lost his job we might not have had the the College Licensing Company which "Coach Battle the Entrapaneur" started not long after Tennessee fired him.

On another note....I don't think 6 wins will be enough to get many G5 schools a bowl game and I fear UNT could be one of them. Our team has a sign in their Apogee Stadium locker room which says something about hitting 6 wins, but I hope I am wrong on this one as far as 6 goes--of course if they win 7 that would solve the problem, right?04-cheers

Congrats to all CUSA winners and for those who lost? We know that feeling all too well, too.
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(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:32 AM)correcamino Wrote:  South Alabama is no pushover. We had a great two game series with them, they along with Texas State will be top teams in the Belt very soon.

UTSA is better and barring major injuries will finish with a better conference record than both La Tech and Tulane. Calling it now.

I see 6, possible 7 more losses on you schedule.05-nono

Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:32 AM)correcamino Wrote:  South Alabama is no pushover. We had a great two game series with them, they along with Texas State will be top teams in the Belt very soon.

UTSA is better and barring major injuries will finish with a better conference record than both La Tech and Tulane. Calling it now.

I see 6, possible 7 more losses on you schedule.05-nono

Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?07-coffee3

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.
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(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  I see 6, possible 7 more losses on you schedule.05-nono

Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?07-coffee3

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.
As a conference we have struggled. No one really puts the fear of god in me. All the games seem winnable. I had Tulsa a L before the season started but now a toss up. Had UTEP a loss but now I'm a lean UTSA.

I was a bit concerned with losing Coker too but having seen things develope I'm under the impression this will be his final gig. One thing is for sure we need to pay the man. Cash in that Oklahoma St check and shell out some money to the coaching staff.

Nice win last week by UNT. 4 more Ws just like that one and its bowl bound. 04-cheers
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-17-2013 10:10 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?07-coffee3

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.
As a conference we have struggled. No one really puts the fear of god in me. All the games seem winnable. I had Tulsa a L before the season started but now a toss up. Had UTEP a loss but now I'm a lean UTSA.

I was a bit concerned with losing Coker too but having seen things develope I'm under the impression this will be his final gig. One thing is for sure we need to pay the man. Cash in that Oklahoma St check and shell out some money to the coaching staff.

Nice win last week by UNT. 4 more Ws just like that one and its bowl bound. 04-cheers

Concur with your take on Coker. Don't believe he is going anywhere.
As for the season, I think UTSA has a 50/50 shot at getting 6+ wins.
Seems everytime I think they are going to struggle they prove me wrong. 04-cheers
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RE: My take on CUSA after Week 3
(09-17-2013 10:10 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?07-coffee3

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.
As a conference we have struggled. No one really puts the fear of god in me. All the games seem winnable. I had Tulsa a L before the season started but now a toss up. Had UTEP a loss but now I'm a lean UTSA.

I was a bit concerned with losing Coker too but having seen things develope I'm under the impression this will be his final gig. One thing is for sure we need to pay the man. Cash in that Oklahoma St check and shell out some money to the coaching staff.

Nice win last week by UNT. 4 more Ws just like that one and its bowl bound. 04-cheers

They paid you to come play at your place? How did that happen? Usually the home team cuts the check to the visiting team not the other way around.
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