Tulsa must beat ISU now no doubt it. At this point Tulsa has more to lose than them. We were expected to better than we have been. (Sucked so far!) Some parts of the team showing some improvement, Oline is what counts the most at this point though. Only Special Teams has sucked more!

(09-17-2013 04:06 PM)TulsaEye Wrote:  Tulsa must beat ISU now no doubt it. At this point Tulsa has more to lose than them. We were expected to better than we have been. (Sucked so far!) Some parts of the team showing some improvement, Oline is what counts the most at this point though. Only Special Teams has sucked more!

do you think tulsa will win???

(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  I see 6, possible 7 more losses on you schedule.

Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.

With 14,000 at your last game you don't really believe that playing at home provides you any advantage do you? Seriously do ya?

(09-17-2013 07:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.

With 14,000 at your last game you don't really believe that playing at home provides you any advantage do you? Seriously do ya?

Statistics say yes, it does provide an advantage. And 14,000 is an abnormally low crowd. Don't expect to see that again this season.

(09-17-2013 07:22 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 07:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.

With 14,000 at your last game you don't really believe that playing at home provides you any advantage do you? Seriously do ya?

Statistics say yes, it does provide an advantage. And 14,000 is an abnormally low crowd. Don't expect to see that again this season.

Fair enough

(09-17-2013 07:32 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 07:22 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 07:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.

With 14,000 at your last game you don't really believe that playing at home provides you any advantage do you? Seriously do ya?

Statistics say yes, it does provide an advantage. And 14,000 is an abnormally low crowd. Don't expect to see that again this season.

Fair enough

Just so you know, 9-4 at home and something like 2-12 on the road the past two seasons in Apogee.

(09-17-2013 12:11 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  They paid you to come play at your place? How did that happen? Usually the home team cuts the check to the visiting team not the other way around.

SAPuro probably meant Arizona. We got 700k to go there.

(09-17-2013 07:04 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 10:00 AM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 09:49 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:56 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)correcamino Wrote:  Wanna put $50 on it ?

I can see UTSA's season playing out as follows.

UTEP - Lean UTSA
Houston - Lean UH
Marshall - Loss
Rice - Loss
UAB - Win (homecoming)
Tulsa - Toss up
Tulane - Win
North Texas - toss up
LaTech - Win (Soza's last game in the dome)

Marshall and Rice are the only two teams that I'm worried about. The UH game at home will be a fun one. Oklahoma St and Arizona are behind us. We roll into week 4 with limited injuries. That's the main thing that worried me. The big programs would beat our skulls in then we limp into conference play. Not the case. I like our chances.

Nothing wrong with being a homer with all the understandably homer positivity, but we don't lose too many at Apogee Stadium to give you a big hint on that game. Outside of Rice which we will have to be hitting with all cylinders to have a chance, I don't think we lose another one in the most accoustical and friendly confines of Apogee Stadium but you know what? I suppose that is why they actually get around to playing the games, right?

Your Coach Coker has gotten your program out of the starting blocks quite effectively and most know this is hardly his first college football coaching rodeo, too. Your admininstration hit it right with him and you all should hope he doesn't get hired away too soon by one of the P5 schools when he hits "winning" gold in the Alamo City and that, BTW, a problem many of our G5 schools have had to deal with at one time or another--most recently, Sonny Dykes of La Tech but now California-Berkely in the PAC12.

With 14,000 at your last game you don't really believe that playing at home provides you any advantage do you? Seriously do ya?

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Back when I lived in Fort Worth and when TCU was in the now defunct Southwest Conference and in the midst of one of their own multi-season losing cycles I would occassionally go to one of their OOC games. (Of course, the Mean Green would have had to be out of town for me to do that).

Anyhow, when the SWC Big Boys did not come to town with their thousands of traveling fans a TCU OOC game at Amon Carter Stadium with a couple or more of those games I attended there might actually be 12K or 13K in their stadium (reported as 25K or more, of course) but what mostly impressed me was how that small number of Horned Frog fans at ACS would sound like there were 30K or more in the stands. Well, Apogee Stadium's accoustics are even better than the old ACS. I have yet to make a game at their newly remodeled version of ACS of which I hear it is quite nice.

In Deed, A Piss Poor Crowd On A Hot Texas September Afternoon:

Last Saturday at Apogee was the first afternoon game I can ever recall being scheduled at UNT this early (or during any part) of September since Hayden Fry's first year back in 1973. Well, AD Fry (he had both titles of AD/HFC) very quickly changed September kick-offs to evening affairs and its been that way since. As many of you would know, September afternoons in the Lone Star State can be as hot as most any August Saturday.

North Texas versus Ball State? It was a case of a perfect storm at UNT last Saturday as far as the 14K+ attendance part goes and that mostly because...
(1) ...the game was televised "live" locally, statewide and regionally on Fox Sports SW which cost us many out of town alums and fans;
(2) ...a 3:00 PM kick-off on a mid September Texas afternoon? (See above paragraph...plus you should have seen the Ball State players wilt in the 2'nd half--I almost felt sorry for them and hoped no one would have a heat stroke) and then...
(3)...this program was 1 & 1 at kick-off and after 8 losing seasons in a row we still have many doubters among the borderline and casual fans and students. 14K was abnormally low, but there were reasons for it.

I like what UTSA has done at the AlamoDome with attendance (even though we sometimes kid them about the KFC deal), but I think what they have done is going to have a future affect and inspire our powers that be at North Texas (as well as other schools) to catch up! ODU and Charlotte are also going to inspire many of us who have been sitting on our duffs with the attendance bit much too long, but at North Texas I assure you that more winning will make a dramatic difference because it has before.

Heck! We once hosted the Texas A & M Aggies and the Aggie Band at Texas Stadium before almost 50,000 so its not that we haven't been there before. In Texas many times its just a matter of who you play and where you play which can determine high end gate receipts.

A toast to all in Road Runner Country!

(09-16-2013 11:59 AM)Gakusei Wrote:  West
1-TIE) Rice
1-TIE) North Texas

I thought Oct. 5 at Tulsa would be for the West. Now maybe it is Oct. 31 at UNT. Or both.

(09-16-2013 11:46 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is really past time to stop looking down on MAC Football. That league plays some really good football and they take care of business against teams no one expect them to do well against.

Yeah, I've never understood the hate for MAC football either. They play some good football up there.

(09-17-2013 06:29 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 04:06 PM)TulsaEye Wrote:  Tulsa must beat ISU now no doubt it. At this point Tulsa has more to lose than them. We were expected to better than we have been. (Sucked so far!) Some parts of the team showing some improvement, Oline is what counts the most at this point though. Only Special Teams has sucked more!

do you think tulsa will win???

With Tulsa at home we should win. Doesn't mean we will. Even though we are at home, if we come out flat. ISU could win. Tulsa as a team doesn't have much margin for error this year as green as we are.

(09-16-2013 12:41 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  If you watched our game you would know why I am apologizing. We spotted them 17 points. Especially with that fumbled on the kickoff. I have never seen a fumble like that. First off his shoulder, then his hands, then he loses it on the ground, and while looking for it spins around and kick the think 30 feet to the back of the endzone. If we would have played the way we are capable of playing we run OHIO out of their stadium. We played like crap. And Cato's last pick was one of the worst passes I have ever seen a QB in a Marshall uniform throw. Even if Evans doesn't fall down it is picked and going the other way.

Cato's pick was bad, but one of the worst passes ever? You forget Bernie Morris, Jimmie Skinner, Goch; I could go on. Hell, Pennington threw 6 INT's his first game. It was a bad game on many fronts. We just plain sucked and weren't ready to play. I think our fans and players have been reading too many articles on how good we are supposed to be.

I don't mean in terms of situation or weight of the impact. I mean fundamentally and just as a pure football play. I had a direct sight line on Evans from my seat on top of that dang cannon and when I went home I confirmed what I saw.

On the snap Cato barely looks left then goes right back to Evans. He stares him down and as he hops up in the pocket 2-3 times he is still staring right at Evans. Evans had fell down before Cato threw the ball. As soon as he let go I know it was picked. For two reasons it was thrown poorly, short, and the eyed down Evans. Sure enough the defender was hit right in the chest as he was falling 3-4 feet away from Evans. Even if Evans had not slipped that ball was picked and it most likely 6 more points gifted away.

It was one of the worst picks I have ever witnessed. To be a junior QB and making a mistake like that is terrible. I watched Chad and Byron plenty and yes they made some interceptions but none as fundamentally bad as that one. Cato had decided pre snap he was going to Evans and that is what he did. Even though there was plenty of time for him to see Evans on the ground before throwing it.

Also not only could he have ran for at least a first down there was a Herd player right in front of him he could have under hand tossed him the ball and picked up 4 yards.

And I didn't read the articles you claim to form my opinion on how good we were supposed to be. There was enough evidence suggesting we should have and should be an 8-10 win team playing for the East crown.