1. I thought the gray uniforms were first rate compared to what many new look uniforms have been.

2. I thought Texas Tech outplayed T.C.U. for most of the game and deserved the victory from that standpoint.

3. I also thought it was one of the most bizarrely and atrociously officiated games I've watched in college ball since the crew working the Syracuse Toledo game a few years ago missed a bad extra point by calling it good and then reviewing an obvious film still got the call wrong. The whole T.C.U. / Texas Tech game had too many flags and stoppages of play, but the last 4 minutes of the game had ridiculous on field calls, and even poorer justifications of those calls upon review, including stopping the game after a play had been run to review a fumble call, and then deciding after the stoppage that they couldn't review it because they had run a play. And that followed a catch interference call that was a total mystery since nobody really touched the Tech receiver of the punt and everyone was trying to get out of his way. This call was compounded by his touching the ball resulting in what should have been a T.C.U. recovery that was nullified by the bad call.

I sure hope this isn't the norm for Big 12 officiating this year. And I hope I don't watch a game in any conference the remainder of the season that was as poorly officiated as this one. What did you guys think about the uniforms, the performance of Tech, and the officiating.

(09-12-2013 10:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. I thought the gray uniforms were first rate compared to what many new look uniforms have been.

2. I thought Texas Tech outplayed T.C.U. for most of the game and deserved the victory from that standpoint.

3. I also thought it was one of the most bizarrely and atrociously officiated games I've watched in college ball since the crew working the Syracuse Toledo game a few years ago missed a bad extra point by calling it good and then reviewing an obvious film still got the call wrong. The whole T.C.U. / Texas Tech game had too many flags and stoppages of play, but the last 4 minutes of the game had ridiculous on field calls, and even poorer justifications of those calls upon review, including stopping the game after a play had been run to review a fumble call, and then deciding after the stoppage that they couldn't review it because they had run a play. And that followed a catch interference call that was a total mystery since nobody really touched the Tech receiver of the punt and everyone was trying to get out of his way. This call was compounded by his touching the ball resulting in what should have been a T.C.U. recovery that was nullified by the bad call.

I sure hope this isn't the norm for Big 12 officiating this year. And I hope I don't watch a game in any conference the remainder of the season that was as poorly officiated as this one. What did you guys think about the uniforms, the performance of Tech, and the officiating.

Using an extra official sure did not help. That was pitiful. I think they need to read the rule book, especially the rule that states a fair catch signal is waving your hand over your head...

Tech Grad---- Not a fan of the gray uni's but if that is what Kliff wants, so be it.

Tech was fortunate tonight as was TCU on the officiating.

Kliff needed a big home win for the Tech crowd but fatterson needed this win more. Tech has beat them twice in a row and that is the way it should be. I've had a few adult drinks this evening so I will stop there.

While the grey uni's looked good, you could see the sweat through them way too easily.

Texas Tech could go on a run with their next three games being Texas State, Kansas and Iowa State.

Big Ten called Cincy and apologized for blowing 2 calls in the Illinois - Cincy game.
They reversed a UC TD and gave the ball to Illinois, and reversed a fumble recovery by Cincy
(in the Illinois red zone) and gave the ball back to Illinois. They missed so many holding calls
I would need a calculator to figure it out.

Who knew Texas Tech has such a defense?

Uniforms - not a fan of the all gray look on anyone. Thought for sure since it was the "black out" game they would bust out the old all black unis

-TCU clearly has a good defense but that offense is terrible and its not just Pachall because they struggled to put points on the board vs SELA too.

-That officiating was just plain awful

(09-12-2013 10:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. I thought the gray uniforms were first rate compared to what many new look uniforms have been.

2. I thought Texas Tech outplayed T.C.U. for most of the game and deserved the victory from that standpoint.

3. I also thought it was one of the most bizarrely and atrociously officiated games I've watched in college ball since the crew working the Syracuse Toledo game a few years ago missed a bad extra point by calling it good and then reviewing an obvious film still got the call wrong. The whole T.C.U. / Texas Tech game had too many flags and stoppages of play, but the last 4 minutes of the game had ridiculous on field calls, and even poorer justifications of those calls upon review, including stopping the game after a play had been run to review a fumble call, and then deciding after the stoppage that they couldn't review it because they had run a play. And that followed a catch interference call that was a total mystery since nobody really touched the Tech receiver of the punt and everyone was trying to get out of his way. This call was compounded by his touching the ball resulting in what should have been a T.C.U. recovery that was nullified by the bad call.

I sure hope this isn't the norm for Big 12 officiating this year. And I hope I don't watch a game in any conference the remainder of the season that was as poorly officiated as this one. What did you guys think about the uniforms, the performance of Tech, and the officiating.

Just because the uniforms weren't as bad as Maryland's or Oregon's doesn't mean they weren't bad.

(09-13-2013 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 10:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  1. I thought the gray uniforms were first rate compared to what many new look uniforms have been.

2. I thought Texas Tech outplayed T.C.U. for most of the game and deserved the victory from that standpoint.

3. I also thought it was one of the most bizarrely and atrociously officiated games I've watched in college ball since the crew working the Syracuse Toledo game a few years ago missed a bad extra point by calling it good and then reviewing an obvious film still got the call wrong. The whole T.C.U. / Texas Tech game had too many flags and stoppages of play, but the last 4 minutes of the game had ridiculous on field calls, and even poorer justifications of those calls upon review, including stopping the game after a play had been run to review a fumble call, and then deciding after the stoppage that they couldn't review it because they had run a play. And that followed a catch interference call that was a total mystery since nobody really touched the Tech receiver of the punt and everyone was trying to get out of his way. This call was compounded by his touching the ball resulting in what should have been a T.C.U. recovery that was nullified by the bad call.

I sure hope this isn't the norm for Big 12 officiating this year. And I hope I don't watch a game in any conference the remainder of the season that was as poorly officiated as this one. What did you guys think about the uniforms, the performance of Tech, and the officiating.

Just because the uniforms weren't as bad as Maryland's or Oregon's doesn't mean they weren't bad.

Several of my TTU friends noted how they hated those uniforms.

Put me in the DISLIKE the Unis category.
Note- I typically like Tech unis. This was one that I did not like

1. Scarlet and Black are the colors. They can make awesome unis with those colors, why go with gray?
2. Bass-boat glitter helmets are where it's at. I like the shiny "Double T" on their helmets, but I miss the glitter.
3. The fans were encouraged to blackout the stadium. Why encourage the blackout and then stand with your fans?

OT (sort of): Texas Tech fans pointing lasers at TCU players.
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=649262

(09-13-2013 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  OT (sort of): Texas Tech fans pointing lasers at TCU players.
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=649262

Pure BS. Oh by the way, I appreciate the nice comment about Tech fans from you in that thread.

I sincerely hope the bearcats enjoy the aac. You guys truly belong in that conference.

Strong D from both- the exact opposite of last year.

Officiating was horrible- and I do think TCU was more adversely impacted by it.

Tech's passing game and screen game is good this year but the question I have is in the trenches- they have yet to run it well at all other than the QB runs which work until the guy gets dinged up.

Tech's D has looked solid against 2 offenses that are good but not great. Neither SMU or TCU have really strong OL this year. I don't think size will be an issue for Tech as the DC got away with smaller guys when he was a successful coordinator for AFA.

Are TCU's offensive issues due to OL attrition (losing 3 starters from last year in a depth-depleted spot) or was Boyce the guy who opened up their offense and losing him hurt them?

As with most early season games it's more questions than answers but Tech looks good so far, but like anyone has some areas of strength and some that are question marks.

(09-13-2013 11:40 AM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  OT (sort of): Texas Tech fans pointing lasers at TCU players.
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=649262

Pure BS. Oh by the way, I appreciate the nice comment about Tech fans from you in that thread.

I sincerely hope the bearcats enjoy the aac. You guys truly belong in that conference.

You are welcome. By the way thanks for always pointing out that UC is
in the AAC. I am well aware of that and no it does not bother me.
I graduated from Cincinnati from the College of DAAP, one of the best on planet Earth. I had season tickets when UC was in CUSA, I went to most of the games when the football program was an independent, 20 years ago.

Nice try

(09-13-2013 09:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Big Ten called Cincy and apologized for blowing 2 calls in the Illinois - Cincy game.
They reversed a UC TD and gave the ball to Illinois, and reversed a fumble recovery by Cincy
(in the Illinois red zone) and gave the ball back to Illinois. They missed so many holding calls
I would need a calculator to figure it out.

Do you have a link to the story of the "Big Ten apology"? That would be unprecedented.

The Big Ten doesn't call holding...especially against OSU and Michigan. Their offensive lineman are just "so good" they could never make a mistake, I guess. It's one of the reasons the Big Ten often gets owned in bowl games. Other leagues call them.

(09-13-2013 12:16 PM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Big Ten called Cincy and apologized for blowing 2 calls in the Illinois - Cincy game.
They reversed a UC TD and gave the ball to Illinois, and reversed a fumble recovery by Cincy
(in the Illinois red zone) and gave the ball back to Illinois. They missed so many holding calls
I would need a calculator to figure it out.

Do you have a link to the story of the "Big Ten apology"? That would be unprecedented.

The Big Ten doesn't call holding...especially against OSU and Michigan. Their offensive lineman are just "so good" they could never make a mistake, I guess. It's one of the reasons the Big Ten often gets owned in bowl games. Other leagues call them.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2013/09/1...incorrect/
UC football coach Tommy Tuberville mentioned on his weekly radio show Thursday night that the Big Ten had notified the school this week that the incorrect call was made on the Munchie Legaux touchdown reversal in last week’s game at Illinois, a 45-17 Bearcats loss.


Tuberville today declined comment when asked to elaborate, but a UC source confirmed that the Big Ten had been in touch with UC to say that the replay call was wrong.

UC athletic director Whit Babcock said in a statement today:

“I’m certainly disappointed, as it really impacted the momentum of the game and our kids fought so hard to come back from down 21 (points). But there is nothing we can do about it. We will focus on what we can control, and that’s the next 10 or 11 games of the season.”

(09-13-2013 12:16 PM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Big Ten called Cincy and apologized for blowing 2 calls in the Illinois - Cincy game.
They reversed a UC TD and gave the ball to Illinois, and reversed a fumble recovery by Cincy
(in the Illinois red zone) and gave the ball back to Illinois. They missed so many holding calls
I would need a calculator to figure it out.

Do you have a link to the story of the "Big Ten apology"? That would be unprecedented.

The Big Ten doesn't call holding...especially against OSU and Michigan. Their offensive lineman are just "so good" they could never make a mistake, I guess. It's one of the reasons the Big Ten often gets owned in bowl games. Other leagues call them.

Did you watch the OSU - Cal game last year. Phantom holding call on Cal on a TD pass that would have put Cal in front 35-28 with about 1:30 left in the game. Replay after replay nothing, no holding anywhere.

(09-13-2013 12:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 12:16 PM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Big Ten called Cincy and apologized for blowing 2 calls in the Illinois - Cincy game.
They reversed a UC TD and gave the ball to Illinois, and reversed a fumble recovery by Cincy
(in the Illinois red zone) and gave the ball back to Illinois. They missed so many holding calls
I would need a calculator to figure it out.

Do you have a link to the story of the "Big Ten apology"? That would be unprecedented.

The Big Ten doesn't call holding...especially against OSU and Michigan. Their offensive lineman are just "so good" they could never make a mistake, I guess. It's one of the reasons the Big Ten often gets owned in bowl games. Other leagues call them.

Did you watch the OSU - Cal game last year. Phantom holding call on Cal on a TD pass that would have put Cal in front 35-28 with about 1:30 left in the game. Replay after replay nothing, no holding anywhere.

There was a similar problem in the Utah State Wisconsin game last year and last year's UAB Ohio State game had some dicey calls as well.

I think we've reached a point in the progression of the game where the money for the BCS and soon to be playoffs is simply too great. The result is likely to be more and more homer calls by most of the conference's officiating crews. I think it is past time to drop conference officials all together and simply have a National Collegiate Officiating Association in which how to call holding, pass interference, targeting, etc., are standardized and all officials are held to the same standard of competency and no official may work games from his immediate home region, and certainly not for his alma mater.

I'm starting to wonder if there is some agreement between the networks and the NCAA to defend replay calls. It seems there have been several reviews that the broadcast crew makes a call on a replay review but the officials call it the other way. Although they are momentarily speechless, they quickly try to justify the call.