The UNC head coach Larry Fedora and the tarheels wide receiver coach both worked at Oklahoma St during the time span of the allegations against the OSU but everything is cool because they said they were not aware of any illegalities.

They said they were questioned by the UNC AD and assured him they knew nothing. Both coaches assured the AD that they believe in the "Carolina Way."

UNC is untouchable.

Tennessee's RBs coach was at OSU during that time, as was Texas A&M QB coach Jake Spavital (as a student and later as a GA). LSU coach Les Miles is implicated as well, and there are probably a few others scattered around here and there...

(09-12-2013 09:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Tennessee's RBs coach was at OSU during that time, as was Texas A&M QB coach Jake Spavital (as a student and later as a GA). LSU coach Les Miles is implicated as well, and there are probably a few others scattered around here and there...

Yep and some of them just might be at W.V.U..

After the scandals with the previous football coaching staff (& Roy Williams) one would think UNC would have been more careful this time around. Once UNC received only a pat on the hand for a culture of cheating it appears they have decided the rewards out weight the punishment.

My argument with UNC's special treatment goes beyond the NCAA. It goes back to the UNC controlled ACC's treatment of South Carolina when they were in the ACC, their treatment of Clemson (Ford) for cheating, & the attempted destruction of NCSU (Sloan & Valvano) each time they won the National Championship.

(09-12-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Tennessee's RBs coach was at OSU during that time, as was Texas A&M QB coach Jake Spavital (as a student and later as a GA). LSU coach Les Miles is implicated as well, and there are probably a few others scattered around here and there...

Yep and some of them just might be at W.V.U..

DeForest is at WVU. But Holgorsen wasn't named. Those are the only 2 from OSU currently at WVU. The rest are gone...

So a few in this case equals ONE. Your math sucks. But since you were looking to talk smack, and math didn't come into play, that's kind of understandable...

Either way, none of this is going to effect WVU in the least. DeForest is either a victim, or he's going to be replaced shortly. Those are the only consequences for WVU that I see...

Nice try. But you attempt at smack was weak, lame, and not well thought out...

(09-13-2013 09:03 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  After the scandals with the previous football coaching staff (& Roy Williams) one would think UNC would have been more careful this time around. Once UNC received only a pat on the hand for a culture of cheating it appears they have decided the rewards out weight the punishment.

My argument with UNC's special treatment goes beyond the NCAA. It goes back to the UNC controlled ACC's treatment of South Carolina when they were in the ACC, their treatment of Clemson (Ford) for cheating, & the attempted destruction of NCSU (Sloan & Valvano) each time they won the National Championship.

Just curious. How exactly was SC treated badly in the ACC? I'm not doubting it but I've heard this a lot from Gamecock fans. I'm well aware of the double standard regarding Clemson's situation with Ford and how they went after NCSU.

(09-13-2013 09:28 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Tennessee's RBs coach was at OSU during that time, as was Texas A&M QB coach Jake Spavital (as a student and later as a GA). LSU coach Les Miles is implicated as well, and there are probably a few others scattered around here and there...

Yep and some of them just might be at W.V.U..

DeForest is at WVU. But Holgorsen wasn't named. Those are the only 2 from OSU currently at WVU. The rest are gone...

So a few in this case equals ONE. Your math sucks. But since you were looking to talk smack, and math didn't come into play, that's kind of understandable...

Either way, none of this is going to effect WVU in the least. DeForest is either a victim, or he's going to be replaced shortly. Those are the only consequences for WVU that I see...

Nice try. But you attempt at smack was weak, lame, and not well thought out...

If I was trying to talk smack Bit you would know it. But in my time on this board you won't find many smack comments from me. I don't care for it unless it pertains to Bama, or is in response to someone else's smack. You had commented about where the coaches from that era had gone but failed to mention that both Holgorsen and DeForest were at W.V.U.. You are correct in that I did not know that Hologorsen was not implicated but that is as far as it goes. And hey my word was "some" your words were "a few" so I'm not so sure that the math was wrong either.

(09-13-2013 10:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:28 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 09:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Tennessee's RBs coach was at OSU during that time, as was Texas A&M QB coach Jake Spavital (as a student and later as a GA). LSU coach Les Miles is implicated as well, and there are probably a few others scattered around here and there...

Yep and some of them just might be at W.V.U..

DeForest is at WVU. But Holgorsen wasn't named. Those are the only 2 from OSU currently at WVU. The rest are gone...

So a few in this case equals ONE. Your math sucks. But since you were looking to talk smack, and math didn't come into play, that's kind of understandable...

Either way, none of this is going to effect WVU in the least. DeForest is either a victim, or he's going to be replaced shortly. Those are the only consequences for WVU that I see...

Nice try. But you attempt at smack was weak, lame, and not well thought out...

If I was trying to talk smack Bit you would know it. But in my time on this board you won't find many smack comments from me. I don't care for it unless it pertains to Bama, or is in response to someone else's smack. You had commented about where the coaches from that era had gone but failed to mention that both Holgorsen and DeForest were at W.V.U.. You are correct in that I did not know that Hologorsen was not implicated but that is as far as it goes.

Minor details...

UNC is the ncaa's unicorn....

(09-13-2013 10:18 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:03 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  After the scandals with the previous football coaching staff (& Roy Williams) one would think UNC would have been more careful this time around. Once UNC received only a pat on the hand for a culture of cheating it appears they have decided the rewards out weight the punishment.

My argument with UNC's special treatment goes beyond the NCAA. It goes back to the UNC controlled ACC's treatment of South Carolina when they were in the ACC, their treatment of Clemson (Ford) for cheating, & the attempted destruction of NCSU (Sloan & Valvano) each time they won the National Championship.

Just curious. How exactly was SC treated badly in the ACC? I'm not doubting it but I've heard this a lot from Gamecock fans. I'm well aware of the double standard regarding Clemson's situation with Ford and how they went after NCSU.

uNC was upset with SC because Frank McGuire left the tar heels and went to coach the Gamecocks. He had a pipeline to NYC and was beating the NC schools with "Yankees". SC won the ACC championship the same year in football & basket. Then the ACC would not let star football & basketball recruits come to SC b/c of (grades), but they could make exceptions for uNC, plus the basketball tournament had to always be played in NC where certain schools seemed to always get the calls. It is interesting that shortly after SC left the ACC entrance standards were lowered. By the way Clemson & Maryland also threatened to leave during that time. Who leaves the conference next year & who threatened to leave for the Big 12 a few months ago?

(09-13-2013 10:18 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 09:03 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  After the scandals with the previous football coaching staff (& Roy Williams) one would think UNC would have been more careful this time around. Once UNC received only a pat on the hand for a culture of cheating it appears they have decided the rewards out weight the punishment.

My argument with UNC's special treatment goes beyond the NCAA. It goes back to the UNC controlled ACC's treatment of South Carolina when they were in the ACC, their treatment of Clemson (Ford) for cheating, & the attempted destruction of NCSU (Sloan & Valvano) each time they won the National Championship.

Just curious. How exactly was SC treated badly in the ACC? I'm not doubting it but I've heard this a lot from Gamecock fans. I'm well aware of the double standard regarding Clemson's situation with Ford and how they went after NCSU.

UNC and Duke wouldn't allow star basketball recruits to play because of grades even though guys with similar scores were playing for them.

Things worked out for the best though. I'd hate to be forced to watch Friday night games against Wake Forest and Syracuse