Because of these violations by Oklahoma St, North Texas will be now be put on probation....

Now we know why Holgerson is so big on the NCAA paying players... He doesn't want to do it anymore.

the way our luck is running, it wouldn't shock me to see our new HC drug into this . . . and dr. bennett hire as replacement retired pope benedict xvi

Why is anyone surprise this? I guarantee you this is something that is being committed at most programs big or small. OSU just got caught but eventually their will be more programs getting caught. Why, the need for the media to break a story that will gain national attention and make a career for some aspiring journalist. This is just the tip of the iceberg, more crap will be coming down the pike sooner than later I fear.

(09-10-2013 11:00 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Why is anyone surprise this? I guarantee you this is something that is being committed at most programs big or small. OSU just got caught but eventually their will be more programs getting caught. Why, the need for the media to break a story that will gain national attention and make a career for some aspiring journalist. This is just the tip of the iceberg, more crap will be coming down the pike sooner than later I fear.

"reprised"? nah.... nervous about our current and former HC???.... yeah

your fear is the 'why'....

(09-10-2013 09:21 AM)goherd17 Wrote:  The NCAA will not do anything to one of their big time programs. Now if this were Marshall etc it would be different. Look at North C they have gotten no trouble etc for all the things that have rolled out of Chapel Hill lately.

Look at how long they dragged their feet on USC's allegations. I'm surprised they didn't hammer "The U" when they had the chance.

(09-10-2013 09:31 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 09:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ...wow...a little nervous from a homer standpoint...lfed or monk....holy shite....puckered tar heels???

....potential to be the watergate of college fb

I was thinking the same thing. What do you think is going on at LSU right now?

Oklahoma State is expendable. It's not like it's Oklahoma, Texas or Michigan. They're going to get butchered. Too many corroborating accounts from former players who apparently have no problem screwing over the institution that provided all that cash. Even the NCAA probably can't screw this one up.

You do realize that Miami is just walking around laughing right now, right? If you actually sat and read the facts behind that case, it was an absolute no brainer. Somehow, the NCAA jacked it up.

What's the point of being a University that plays by the rules? Oklahoma St used to be a joke. They threw money at the problem and now look at them, top 15 program.
Les Miles needs to get his balls clipped. What's the incentive for coaches not to cheat? By the time the NCAA finds out you're 3 jobs down the road.

Oklahoma St also needs to get run through and I'm not talking taking away wins 10 years ago. Take scholarships. Bowl intelligibility.

(09-10-2013 10:21 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  Now we know why Holgerson is so big on the NCAA paying players... He doesn't want to do it anymore.

Interestingly the guy at at the center of this mess was hired by WVU and Holgerson a couple years ago. Ollie Luck announced that he is doing an internal investigation. WVU might be involved as well.


"West Virginia University is aware of an upcoming investigative reporting series in Sports Illustrated which - while focused on another institution -includes allegations against one of our current assistant football coaches regarding his time of employment at his previous Institution," Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Oliver Luck said. "Upon learning of the pending investigative report, WVU launched an internal review to ensure the coach's full compliance to NCAA rules while at West Virginia. The NCAA has also been contacted. While our assistant football coach has denied the allegations, it is the right thing to do to look into the matter and review practices here."

This will not be just a little thing for OkiState. They have always had a bit of sleeze in the background.

(09-10-2013 07:27 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  Oklahoma State AD to apologize for football program's alleged indescretions...

I don't buy the apology. He didn't even say what his gender is nor how old he is.

(09-10-2013 12:15 PM)SApuro Wrote:  What's the point of being a University that plays by the rules? Oklahoma St used to be a joke. They threw money at the problem and now look at them, top 15 program.
Les Miles needs to get his balls clipped. What's the incentive for coaches not to cheat? By the time the NCAA finds out you're 3 jobs down the road.

Oklahoma St also needs to get run through and I'm not talking taking away wins 10 years ago. Take scholarships. Bowl intelligibility.

Agreed, it seems there is no negative to doing these things in the long run. You will lose a few scholarships at some point, but earn wins while the general public shrugs and moves on when recruiting violations are eventually reported.

(09-10-2013 11:00 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Why is anyone surprise this? I guarantee you this is something that is being committed at most programs big or small. OSU just got caught but eventually their will be more programs getting caught. Why, the need for the media to break a story that will gain national attention and make a career for some aspiring journalist. This is just the tip of the iceberg, more crap will be coming down the pike sooner than later I fear.

I'm not so much surprised that it happened but more so surprised that a major program was dumb enough to get caught. Of course, I suppose Okie State wasn't a "major" program when most of the violations occurred under Miles' watch.

I'm really interested to see the final three parts of the story and how/if Miles is specifically implicated.

(09-10-2013 08:57 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  We have more starving Division I college football players. I had no idea. This is turning into a national tragedy. We have to do something...


"There were some athletes who were almost starving," says Carter. "Wherever the money came from, they were like, Yeah, I'll take that."

and yet they all seem to have plenty of money to spend to cover themselves with tattoos.

(09-10-2013 10:05 PM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:15 PM)SApuro Wrote:  What's the point of being a University that plays by the rules? Oklahoma St used to be a joke. They threw money at the problem and now look at them, top 15 program.
Les Miles needs to get his balls clipped. What's the incentive for coaches not to cheat? By the time the NCAA finds out you're 3 jobs down the road.

Oklahoma St also needs to get run through and I'm not talking taking away wins 10 years ago. Take scholarships. Bowl intelligibility.

Agreed, it seems there is no negative to doing these things in the long run. You will lose a few scholarships at some point, but earn wins while the general public shrugs and moves on when recruiting violations are eventually reported.

possibly the best macro response I've read...extrapolates to how monkeys are trained to respond...well done

Holder: "We pride ourselves on doing things the right way around here."

Really, he said that.

(09-11-2013 07:18 AM)Fear The Beak Wrote:  Holder: "We pride ourselves on doing things the right way around here."

Really, he said that.

Irony that is true when recorded....is social thinking built by consumerism

...as previous poster mentioned....hardly a surprise

what is really neat is how this plays out....no spoiler now

Okie St. may have bested every other program's scandals if this is all true. I hope Tulsa, North Texas, and all other programs in the area are clean cause the NCAA needs someone to make an example of for this scandal and it ain't going to be a school from the P5.