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RE: It has begun....it's rumor time.
Mack Browns buyout is 2.7 million. Strong's buyout is 5 Million. Even with the incentives noted in the article it puts him close to 4.3 million which is still a million less than Brown's before his incentives.


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(09-09-2013 04:54 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Texas would have to spend more money than God to buy out Mack AND pay for Strong's buy out PLUS give him a raise as an incentive. I really don't think you folks understand how much Strong's making right now. It'd take NFL money to lure him away right now, if only because of the buy out. You guys seem to forget: Louisville isn't hurting for money...we're not paying C-USA, AAC money to our coaching staffs. We're paying SEC\big league $$$.

I don't think you realize just how much money there is in Texas especially compared to Louisville.

Having said that, not to worry....Texas will look for bigger fish than Strong.
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(09-09-2013 04:54 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Texas would have to spend more money than God to buy out Mack AND pay for Strong's buy out PLUS give him a raise as an incentive. I really don't think you folks understand how much Strong's making right now. It'd take NFL money to lure him away right now, if only because of the buy out. You guys seem to forget: Louisville isn't hurting for money...we're not paying C-USA, AAC money to our coaching staffs. We're paying SEC\big league $$$.

Money is nothing to Texas. They will not go the unproven route. Strong is relatively unproven. Saban is proven. Les Miles is proven. Urban Meyer is proven. $10 million would not shock me.
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(09-09-2013 05:05 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(09-09-2013 04:54 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Texas would have to spend more money than God to buy out Mack AND pay for Strong's buy out PLUS give him a raise as an incentive. I really don't think you folks understand how much Strong's making right now. It'd take NFL money to lure him away right now, if only because of the buy out. You guys seem to forget: Louisville isn't hurting for money...we're not paying C-USA, AAC money to our coaching staffs. We're paying SEC\big league $$$.

I don't think you realize just how much money there is in Texas especially compared to Louisville.

Having said that, not to worry....Texas will look for bigger fish than Strong.

There is more money in Texas, than sand on the beach.
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They may have lots of money, but no college or business operates under a "money is no object" mantra regardless of what they say for PR purposes. Having money and wanting to spend it are two entirely different things. Why spend money when you don't REALLY have to?
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(09-09-2013 05:08 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  They may have lots of money, but no college or business operates under a "money is no object" mantra regardless of what they say for PR purposes. Having money and wanting to spend it are two entirely different things. Why spend money when you don't REALLY have to?

You still don't understand ....we are not alking about the University's money....we are talking about all of the extremely rich UT supporters who are more than willing to spend it to get what they want....
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(09-09-2013 05:08 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  They may have lots of money, but no college or business operates under a "money is no object" mantra regardless of what they say for PR purposes. Having money and wanting to spend it are two entirely different things. Why spend money when you don't REALLY have to?

Rabbit - stop the argument - you can't win and you really don't understand. Folks in Texas have money like you can't imagine. All UT has to say is they need someone to pay and someone will pay. Texas oil people make your richest horse people look like hobos. We have seen that happen in North Carolina with UNC's connection to just one oil man.
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I'm not the one that doesn't understand, pal. Sorry.
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Tennessee a better job than Texas? Just when I thought I've seen everything LOL.

People who don't live in the Great State of Texas don't understand money is not an issue here. There's tons of wealthy alumns at places like UT, A&M ,etc that have oil and gas money. Heck, even little UTEP has the backing of oil money (Western Refinery is a big donor). SMU is paying June Jones $2 million through donors, the university is not paying him a dime. Rice has a $5 billion endowment. Now you get the point.

I don't see Strong at either Texas or USC. He has no recruiting ties in either state and the pressure to win is higher and why put up with all that when you can stay at a place like Louisville, making good money and not pressured to win the ACC every year. At USC or Texas, he'll be expected to win the Pac-12 or Big XII every year given the resources both schools have. Now if the Florida job opens up......I would be very nervous if I was a Louisville fan. That would be a job he would be very interested given his ties to the university.

The only way I could see Strong at USC is if he has a big ego (Louisville fans can tell me if that's the case or not). If he has a big ego, I can see the allure of L.A/Hollywood but if not then he's safe at Louisville.
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(09-09-2013 05:04 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Considering what Strong gets paid in Louisville, which is significantly more than you people seem to realize, as well as the absolute control he has over the program vs. other places...he's not leaving. He said no to Tennessee, and that's a better gig than Texas.

Louisville folks should be more worried about how long Florida is willing to put up with mediocre performances by Muschamp. Strong may have turned down Tennessee and I am with you that he could just as likely turn down Texas as he would accept, but I wouldn't be so quick to say he would turn down Florida. That is his Alma Mater.

To the folks that think Strong would go to Texas, I think it just as likely he stays in Louisville where he remains the number one coach on the market until the position at Florida opens up.
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(09-09-2013 06:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Louisville folks should be more worried about how long Florida is willing to put up with mediocre performances by Muschamp.

Agree that's the job Strong would be most likely to take if offered to him. And, Muschamp really needs a turn-around the rest of this year. Florida boosters aren't paying him all that money to be the third-best team in Florida or to finish third in the SEC East. If he wins fewer than 9 this year, will he still be around to coach the bowl game?
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(09-09-2013 05:15 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  I'm not the one that doesn't understand, pal. Sorry.

Sorry pal, I do not mean to be rude or offensive ... but it does not sound like you understand when you talk about Texas.
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Frankly, I don't give a damn about Texas. Louisville may eventually lose Strong, but it won't be to Texas. Period, end of the discussion. Move along, nothing more to see.
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(09-09-2013 04:04 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  So loyalties only matter when it's convenient for your point, but they don't when it's not? What happened to the mindset that all coaches are mercenaries looking to move up and outward? You may as well suggest that he's more loyal to the Florida Gators than he is to Louisville who gave him his first head coaching gig with that statement.
Your reading comprehension skills leave a little to be desired. I'm trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion based on my comment... 03-banghead
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(09-09-2013 07:58 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Frankly, I don't give a damn about Texas. Louisville may eventually lose Strong, but it won't be to Texas. Period, end of the discussion. Move along, nothing more to see.

Feel free to leave the discussion anytime you please but the discussion is not about Louisville, it is about the fact that discussion will be heavy about the Texas head coaching position until Mack is gone and a new replacement is announced.

Your attempt to act like you ended anything just goes to show your inability to take part in such a discussion. Here is a tip, go talk to the mirror if you need to have complete control of a discussion.

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(09-09-2013 08:06 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-09-2013 04:04 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  So loyalties only matter when it's convenient for your point, but they don't when it's not? What happened to the mindset that all coaches are mercenaries looking to move up and outward? You may as well suggest that he's more loyal to the Florida Gators than he is to Louisville who gave him his first head coaching gig with that statement.
Your reading comprehension skills leave a little to be desired. I'm trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion based on my comment... 03-banghead

None the less, I would say exactly what he is trying to say you said. I would absolutely say that Strong is most loyal to his Alma Mater. The concept of such is NOT a new concept. Perhaps this new poster doesn't understand the concept of having an Alma Mater. Seems that way or he is extremely naïve. To think that every coach is completely loyal to the school that gave them their first coaching gig? I mean....obviously they are because so few coaches leave their current job for another one right?

This guy is a perfect example of someone who has a very limited grasp of reality.
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I never said Strong wouldn't leave for Florida. I've said many a time that Florida's the only place I see him leaving Louisville for. I said he wouldn't go to Texas and all of Texas's money wouldn't sway him. I'm sorry, unlike the folks from Texas around here...I don't swing from Longhorn jockstraps. The world does not start and stop at Texas. They're not the be all and end all of college football and they won't just pluck whoever they want. If they could, they probably would've done a hell of a lot better than Mack Brown to begin with.
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Charlie Strong went to Central Arkansas
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(09-09-2013 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(09-09-2013 08:06 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-09-2013 04:04 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  So loyalties only matter when it's convenient for your point, but they don't when it's not? What happened to the mindset that all coaches are mercenaries looking to move up and outward? You may as well suggest that he's more loyal to the Florida Gators than he is to Louisville who gave him his first head coaching gig with that statement.
Your reading comprehension skills leave a little to be desired. I'm trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion based on my comment... 03-banghead

None the less, I would say exactly what he is trying to say you said. I would absolutely say that Strong is most loyal to his Alma Mater. The concept of such is NOT a new concept. Perhaps this new poster doesn't understand the concept of having an Alma Mater. Seems that way or he is extremely naïve. To think that every coach is completely loyal to the school that gave them their first coaching gig? I mean....obviously they are because so few coaches leave their current job for another one right?

This guy is a perfect example of someone who has a very limited grasp of reality.



Well I hate defending my insecure Louisville fans, but there is NO WAY we lose Charlie Strong to his alma mater ....

... since his alma mater is the UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL ARKANSAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Strong

This is a perfect example of someone talking out of their ass, and not having anyone call him on it earlier in the thread, so he continues to talk out of his ass. 01-wingedeagle


Now we could lose him to Florida. Although I think those chances go down with every year Charlie stays in Louisville. If Muschamp screws the pooch this year, after going 11-2 last year, I still think he has another year at Florida before any of us need to worry about that.

And I am sure if Texas really wanted him, we could lose him there too. Although that is a fight I would welcome, as I don't think Charlie has ANY emotional ties to Texas, and Charlie DOES have some emotional ties to Tom Jurich who finally gave him a chance at a head coaching job. If we were to beat Texas out to keep Charlie, after doing the same with Tennessee, then I think we're looking a long termer status.



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39 current players from Florida and a lot more on the way, shows Charlie and His staffs connections to the state of Florida. more than any other school outside of Florida. Texas recruits? End of Texas, would take way too long to get estabilished with the H.S. coaches there. He's already over 50 years old. But Whom knows.
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