So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

You LSU hater queers can jab all you want, but Miles kicked a Heisman hopeful QB off the team for his academics. He's not afraid to kick talent off.

(09-11-2013 12:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

It should be when it is done on a university or program level. It's not the sex: it's the structure in which it happens; i.e. girsl are instructed and/or paid to do it.

And yes, I'd smash all of the women in the picture.

(09-11-2013 02:09 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 12:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

It should be when it is done on a university or program level. It's not the sex: it's the structure in which it happens; i.e. girsl are instructed and/or paid to do it.

And yes, I'd smash all of the women in the picture.

Good point. But there are quite a few I wouldn't tap... Like that dude with the dreadlocks beside the guy in the white shirt...

Interesting development. SI has yet to publish Part 4 of the Ok. St. expose (as was promised for today) and Thayer Evans is no longer listed as a writer for SI.

(09-13-2013 10:15 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting development. SI has yet to publish Part 4 of the Ok. St. expose (as was promised for today) and Thayer Evans is no longer listed as a writer for SI.

Considering the holes being blown in his expose, is that all that surprising? SI.com has been made to look stupid, by documents from OSU disputing many of the interviewed players, and by Yahoo, who showed them what a REAL expose looks like. Evans is a very poor journalist by comparison...

According to SBNation, Evans was never listed on SI's site. He is still employed, according to them, SI, and Dan Patrick.

(09-11-2013 02:09 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 12:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

It should be when it is done on a university or program level. It's not the sex: it's the structure in which it happens; i.e. girsl are instructed and/or paid to do it.

Is there any indication that this the university did this? Or is the school guilty of doing nothing more that putting two hormonally charged kids in a situation where it shouldn't be surprising that this would occur? I don't believe that very many of these girls are "putting out" for the glory of old State U. They just want to meet guys.

(09-13-2013 11:51 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 02:09 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 12:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

It should be when it is done on a university or program level. It's not the sex: it's the structure in which it happens; i.e. girsl are instructed and/or paid to do it.

Is there any indication that this the university did this? Or is the school guilty of doing nothing more that putting two hormonally charged kids in a situation where it shouldn't be surprising that this would occur? I don't believe that very many of these girls are "putting out" for the glory of old State U. They just want to meet guys.

You mean they want to meet guys that might be millionaires at some point in the near future...

(09-13-2013 11:51 AM)orangefan Wrote:  Is there any indication that this the university did this? Or is the school guilty of doing nothing more that putting two hormonally charged kids in a situation where it shouldn't be surprising that this would occur? I don't believe that very many of these girls are "putting out" for the glory of old State U. They just want to meet guys.

The allegations put just about all of this at the university level. I am not speaking to the level of truthfulness, which seems to come under question.

(09-13-2013 12:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-13-2013 11:51 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 02:09 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 12:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So who here would turn down any of the girls they think are good looking? Paying players and academic cheating is one thing, but f*cking shouldn't even be an issue brought up...

It should be when it is done on a university or program level. It's not the sex: it's the structure in which it happens; i.e. girsl are instructed and/or paid to do it.

Is there any indication that this the university did this? Or is the school guilty of doing nothing more that putting two hormonally charged kids in a situation where it shouldn't be surprising that this would occur? I don't believe that very many of these girls are "putting out" for the glory of old State U. They just want to meet guys.

You mean they want to meet guys that might be millionaires at some point in the near future...

Absolutely.

So happy we have found a new target for which the board can direct is craziest conspiracy theories. Unethical regimes aren't corrupting college sports; sports writers are.

(09-13-2013 01:21 PM)Orangemen Wrote:  So happy we have found a new target for which the board can direct is craziest conspiracy theories. Unethical regimes aren't corrupting college sports; sports writers are.

It's not the schools - it's the rules that are unethical. Cheating will go on as long as the schools aren't allowed to pay players something reasonable for their efforts beyond just a scholarship. I'm no Tide Roller, but this kid at Bama now accused of accepting money was freaking homeless. The university is making $100 million per year from football. Can't we find a way to to get some of it into the kid's hands without breaking a rule? It's obscene.

As far as the OK State hostesses - you're telling me that college kids are having sex? Say it isn't so. Next thing you're going to tell me is that some of them are smoking pot and drinking beer! (You'll note that I went to Syracuse, not BYU;-)

(09-13-2013 01:21 PM)Orangemen Wrote:  So happy we have found a new target for which the board can direct is craziest conspiracy theories. Unethical regimes aren't corrupting college sports; sports writers are.

And how is that any different from media writers who concentrate on the national political issues?

Conglomerations of corporate entities give to both parties, and own the networks and many of the news magazines and newspapers. Let a reporter go rogue and what happens there? Since those same conglomerates own the sports networks too, and the sports publications as well, how does this differ?

The S.I. case will become a great "Joe McCarthy like case" of bad, or sloppy, journalism, the outcome of which will serve as a big warning to the next reporter who thinks he/she can make a name for themselves by getting off of the usual talking points. The truly sad part is that no matter what the proof or corruption level may actually be in the future there will be plenty who will refuse to cover the story out of fear of taking such a career risk.

The fact that McCarthy ruined many innocent lives became an excuse to quit trying to root out moles and spies in some areas of government and beyond. His sins became a cover for people marginally suspected of espionage. It was a good thing to stop him, but it came at the price of deciding not to make what might appear to be another witch hunt investigation. It was just safer to ride public sentiment and look the other way.

So if this unfolds like I think it might, with the mistakes, inconsistencies, and stretched allegations being rushed to print before an actual investigation was used to gauge the depth and severity of the facts and an assessment of their truthfulness ascertained, then because of this one writer's sloppiness and lack of professionalism, all writers will be burdened by his mistakes and mistrusted because his potential bias. And stories of this kind regardless of the truthfulness of the allegations will not be received with an open mind and the initial retribution for such will land at the feet of the reporter and not the perpetrator.

The Penn State fiasco begged for good investigative journalism a decade before the scandal broke. That event opened up the public's acceptance of looking into venerated sports programs. This case could start to close that window again. Plus, big time denial is popular these days.

College football is quickly becoming a joke. It's no mystery how all of a sudden a player changes his mind from one big program to another. Usually has to do with a bag of cash, a new job for dad or one of the relatives or simply or women such as the Orange Club girls. It's joke. We are not watching college football, but influence peddling of the highest nature. Would like to see the following as a booster of a current major college program:

-higher admission standards or those similar to all students

-practice time cut in half. Players should not be struggling to maintain scholarship status because of too long practices or too many practices. Too many practices too much commitment and no time for college life or academics

-establishment of a NFL type minor league for players 18-21 years old. They play for pay, receive much larger salaries such as 100-250K per year. These are players that cannot pass a college entrance exam or study. 18 year olds can play on campus as long as they are students and meet admission requirements. Hey Louisville, here is a chance. Another minor league team would do the city alot of good.

-no recruiting. Schools must play or recruit players from within the school or admitting class. Cannot influence a player/student to attend the university other than through local advertising and admission information. Nothing else. no recruiting visits, no recruiting, no football camps, no letters to players, no contact to students/players by any coach or employee of the university. The student chooses where he wants to go much like that of the average college student without a sports scholarship.

-broken rules (severe ones such as recruiting or other serious violations) result in the school having no college football for five years, no revenue from college football and all coaches dismissed. Coaches that are convicted of this type of behavior can no longer coach college football.

-allow players to transfer at will much like that of any other student.

Clean it up. Would like to see real college students playing other real college students.

PROBLEMS: many guys don't attend classes, many don't graduate or are used for their football skills, many players commit crimes on campus such as rape, theft etc, drug use including selling and taking of drugs and are polluting our wonderful campuses with crap like this, professors passing students that should not pass course, fake courses, courses anyone could pass like football 101????

Nothing especially extraordinary in the drugs and sex write-ups other than claiming Deforest chided a player for not getting sex for a recruit. Kids used drugs. Kids had sex. Coaches ignored it. It isn't the type environment you want, but it is college.

(09-13-2013 11:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  Nothing especially extraordinary in the drugs and sex write-ups other than claiming Deforest chided a player for not getting sex for a recruit. Kids used drugs. Kids had sex. Coaches ignored it. It isn't the type environment you want, but it is college.

Bullet, you would be a great public relations executive for Congress!

(09-07-2013 04:23 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Along with other things like paying players mostly between 2001-2007 and academic cheating.

* Coaches and boosters paying athletes, including violations ranging from paying for jobs not performed, overpaying for jobs and strictly paying players for performance.

DeForest is accused of running a bonus program – paying players for specific plays – as recently as 2011.

* A environment of academic impropriety, from players not attending class to grade changing to tutors doing work for players.

* Widespread drug abuse and a drug policy that isn’t uniformly administered.

* Hostesses in the Orange Pride program providing sex to recruits.

http://deadspin.com/si-ok-state-hostesse...1270065692

So what you are saying is they should join the SEC and won't miss a beat?