I can't think of much that went right. Thought Shaq Washington had a nice game. Max Morrison dropped more balls than he caught. We need more WRs to step up. Play calling was as bad as I've seen in quite some time. Hopefully someone asks Tubs about running RDA up the middle a dozen times for no gain.

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

(09-07-2013 09:52 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

I do think we need to be careful for what we wish for in terms of conference membership. Recruiting would improve if Cincinnati was in the Big Ten, ACC, or Big XII but there might be some seasons where the Bearcats drop more game than we would like.

I think today was just the perfect mix of everything going wrong. How did Syracuse and UConn beat Louisville last season? Sometimes you have games where the better team has everything go wrong. Other times people under value the home team and you get something like this.

College usually has five to ten teams that are better than everyone else. After that you get have another fifty teams that depending on the circumstances that can go just about anywhere. UC and Illinois are probably in that group, Purdue isn't one of those team. Nothing I saw today makes me believe that UC is going to win less than 8 games this season.

(09-07-2013 08:05 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  some over on UC247 are in full meltdown mode...<eye roll>

I'm not happy with the loss but let's not make this into something it's not.

Some of them need to get a Grip man but most of the very hardcore fans are on 247..

As I told someone in a reply yesterday. A lot of people tied going 12-0 into being invited too the Big12 or ACC and also dismissing the teams UC has to play this year.

I've always noticed this with Cincinnati fans, whether it be Bengals, or the Bearcats. always Seems like a lot of people are very quick to jump off the band wagon after a loss. For 30-45% of the fan base too give up all hope after a loss is never a good sign of a strong fan base.

(09-07-2013 08:29 PM)50Cent Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 03:26 PM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 03:13 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  I thought we were done with 3 man rush on 3rd down. Like watching us play Tenn all over again.

A lot of teams rush 3 and drop 8 if it's say 3rd and 8 or longer.. You do this because you don't have very good DB's.

so if you don't have very good dbs....why on earth put 5 or 6 of them out there?....why don't you try to get to qb so those not so good dbs don't have to cover as long?

Because if you rush 5 or 6 when you know you're DB's are not any good it's going to be pitch and catch. Reason being is UC has a weak Dline so sending 5 or 6 on blitz won't matter because if UC is playing vs a good Oline no one will get home on the blitz and you will have wide open players.

(09-07-2013 09:52 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

I would say anywhere from 7-4 to 10-3. If UC was in a better conference talent wise UC needs more better players. At this time UC would not have the DB's you need every game in the Big12 to win big, see->WVU. UC would need a better OC, Dline and Oline for ACC.

(09-07-2013 10:04 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 09:52 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

I do think we need to be careful for what we wish for in terms of conference membership. Recruiting would improve if Cincinnati was in the Big Ten, ACC, or Big XII but there might be some seasons where the Bearcats drop more game than we would like.

I think today was just the perfect mix of everything going wrong. How did Syracuse and UConn beat Louisville last season? Sometimes you have games where the better team has everything go wrong. Other times people under value the home team and you get something like this.

College usually has five to ten teams that are better than everyone else. After that you get have another fifty teams that depending on the circumstances that can go just about anywhere. UC and Illinois are probably in that group, Purdue isn't one of those team. Nothing I saw today makes me believe that UC is going to win less than 8 games this season.

THIS->> College usually has five to ten teams that are better than everyone else. After that you get have another fifty teams that depending on the circumstances that can go just about anywhere. UC and Illinois are probably in that group very good overall post.

(09-07-2013 06:21 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  Did anyone listen to the post game? This tweet from Tommy G has me a little fired up.

Tom Gelehrter ‏@Tommy_G 3h
Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. They didn't make a mistake all day.

This is what gave me a Big LOL-> Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. SMH. come on man really.

I hate to see the Bearcats lose any game, but his is where we wean off the "bandwagon" fans. Most "experts" predicted UC to go 3-1 over the first 4 games and that's where we'll most likely be.

Did anyone really think we'd go undefeated? Get real. We have a good shot at 10 or 11 wins in the regular season. Again, most predictions are 9-3, which is a very good year, especially in a year of transition.

I am still confident in the Bearcats, Coach TT and his staff. It will get better, this was just a bad game - nothing more, nothing less. Time to move on with life.

9-3 with statistically one of the weakest schedules in the country isn't really an accomplishment IMO.

Also guys just be happy the Defense did not give up 550 rushing in one game :) lol....

I'm pretty disappointed, but not in panic mode. Cubit put together a nice game plan against us and they got some help from the men in stripes. UC was still in the game late when the goal line TD got reversed and coupled with Munchie's injury you could feel the fight drain out of those guys.
We got our a$$es kicked on the road by a mediocre Tennessee team a couple years ago in our 2nd game of the season and went on to win the BE and go to win the Liberty Bowl.
My biggest concern was that the defense looked slow on the edges and tended to over pursue. That, and a lack of numbers at QB.

(09-08-2013 08:13 AM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:21 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  Did anyone listen to the post game? This tweet from Tommy G has me a little fired up.

Tom Gelehrter ‏@Tommy_G 3h
Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. They didn't make a mistake all day.

This is what gave me a Big LOL-> Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. SMH. come on man really.

Illinois fans sitting around me would agree. Many said, "We've never seen this." I thought Illinois looked at times yesterday like a Top 10 offense.

We should of too against their defense, but we didn't come out ready to play.

(09-08-2013 07:56 AM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 09:52 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

I would say anywhere from 7-4 to 10-3. If UC was in a better conference talent wise UC needs more better players. At this time UC would not have the DB's you need every game in the Big12 to win big, see->WVU. UC would need a better OC, Dline and Oline for ACC.

I was extrapolating based on the statement like "OH - it's tough to play two Big Ten teams in a row," as an excuse for getting romped yesterday. If playing only two in a row is bad, according to CTT, imagine every week.

But, I know perfectly well, that we can compete in, even if not necessarily win, conferences like that. The SEC is the only one that would make me

(09-08-2013 09:59 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 08:13 AM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:21 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  Did anyone listen to the post game? This tweet from Tommy G has me a little fired up.

Tom Gelehrter ‏@Tommy_G 3h
Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. They didn't make a mistake all day.

This is what gave me a Big LOL-> Coach Tuberville said that Illinois ran about the best 100 offensive plays he has ever seen. SMH. come on man really.

Illinois fans sitting around me would agree. Many said, "We've never seen this." I thought Illinois looked at times yesterday like a Top 10 offense.

We should of too against their defense, but we didn't come out ready to play.

I agree. Thats not a 2-10 team fellas

(09-08-2013 11:02 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 07:56 AM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 09:52 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:56 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 06:27 PM)pobearman Wrote:  What fired me up was the quote that it was tough for us to play 2 Big Ten teams in 2 weeks. Don't like excuses.

+1. Purdue and Illinois are teams we should squash. It's not like we played OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks.

Yeah... if that's the case, then why are we expending so much effort trying to get into a power conference. That is basically an admission that we are a 5-7 or so team in anything but the AAC.

I would say anywhere from 7-4 to 10-3. If UC was in a better conference talent wise UC needs more better players. At this time UC would not have the DB's you need every game in the Big12 to win big, see->WVU. UC would need a better OC, Dline and Oline for ACC.

I was extrapolating based on the statement like "OH - it's tough to play two Big Ten teams in a row," as an excuse for getting romped yesterday. If playing only two in a row is bad, according to CTT, imagine every week.

But, I know perfectly well, that we can compete in, even if not necessarily win, conferences like that. The SEC is the only one that would make me

Don't get me wrong I know UC can compete in the Big12 or Acc I just pointed out some things that talent wise UC would need to fix in order to win 9-12games per season.. You can have a bad defense in the BIG12 you just need very good and fast DB's because 8 of the 10 teams does air raid. For the Acc UC would need a better Dline mainly and a better Oline for RB's vs good teams. UC would have everything esle is set. Nice reply

Yes. They would also recruit better as a member of one of those conferences. Plenty of variables.

(09-08-2013 08:16 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  I hate to see the Bearcats lose any game, but his is where we wean off the "bandwagon" fans. Most "experts" predicted UC to go 3-1 over the first 4 games and that's where we'll most likely be.

Did anyone really think we'd go undefeated? Get real. We have a good shot at 10 or 11 wins in the regular season. Again, most predictions are 9-3, which is a very good year, especially in a year of transition.

I am still confident in the Bearcats, Coach TT and his staff. It will get better, this was just a bad game - nothing more, nothing less. Time to move on with life.

I don't know who had been predicting 9-3, especially around the program itself. The schedule is one of the weakest in the country, people were saying the team looked better in camp than ever before in history, the staff was doing all the right things, they staff is going to take us to the next level, and then we pasted Purdue (although I clearly saw that Purdue handed us that game), and Illinois barely squeezed by an FCS team.

Pretty much everything about that game has warning signs written all over it foretelling trouble ahead. Not the least of which was losing the starting QB for the year (and don't think Kay is going to carry us for the year. It's clear he's probably hurt in some capacity) and a starting CB, a position that's thin to start with. The Oline, which was supposed to be a huge strength couldn't block anyone yesterday. The defensive front, also supposed to be pretty good, got zero pressure on Illinois QB, something even the FCS Salukis were able to do in sacking him 5 times. Our receiving corp is supposed to be as talented as we've ever had, and they dropped balls like hot potatoes. And we now know that our offensive coordinator is in over his head because he hasn't figured out yet that a 5'-6", 160lb RB can't run between the tackles.

This was our last chance to make something happen before we are relegated to obscurity in the AAC, and most close observers predicted that it would happen. I don't see it.

(09-08-2013 02:13 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 08:16 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  I hate to see the Bearcats lose any game, but his is where we wean off the "bandwagon" fans. Most "experts" predicted UC to go 3-1 over the first 4 games and that's where we'll most likely be.

Did anyone really think we'd go undefeated? Get real. We have a good shot at 10 or 11 wins in the regular season. Again, most predictions are 9-3, which is a very good year, especially in a year of transition.

I am still confident in the Bearcats, Coach TT and his staff. It will get better, this was just a bad game - nothing more, nothing less. Time to move on with life.

I don't know who had been predicting 9-3, especially around the program itself. The schedule is one of the weakest in the country, people were saying the team looked better in camp than ever before in history, the staff was doing all the right things, they staff is going to take us to the next level, and then we pasted Purdue (although I clearly saw that Purdue handed us that game), and Illinois barely squeezed by an FCS team.

Pretty much everything about that game has warning signs written all over it foretelling trouble ahead. Not the least of which was losing the starting QB for the year (and don't think Kay is going to carry us for the year. It's clear he's probably hurt in some capacity) and a starting CB, a position that's thin to start with. The Oline, which was supposed to be a huge strength couldn't block anyone yesterday. The defensive front, also supposed to be pretty good, got zero pressure on Illinois QB, something even the FCS Salukis were able to do in sacking him 5 times. Our receiving corp is supposed to be as talented as we've ever had, and they dropped balls like hot potatoes. And we now know that our offensive coordinator is in over his head because he hasn't figured out yet that a 5'-6", 160lb RB can't run between the tackles.

This was our last chance to make something happen before we are relegated to obscurity in the AAC, and most close observers predicted that it would happen. I don't see it.

Maybe they just played bad

(09-08-2013 02:13 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 08:16 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  I hate to see the Bearcats lose any game, but his is where we wean off the "bandwagon" fans. Most "experts" predicted UC to go 3-1 over the first 4 games and that's where we'll most likely be.

Did anyone really think we'd go undefeated? Get real. We have a good shot at 10 or 11 wins in the regular season. Again, most predictions are 9-3, which is a very good year, especially in a year of transition.

I am still confident in the Bearcats, Coach TT and his staff. It will get better, this was just a bad game - nothing more, nothing less. Time to move on with life.

I don't know who had been predicting 9-3, especially around the program itself. The schedule is one of the weakest in the country, people were saying the team looked better in camp than ever before in history, the staff was doing all the right things, they staff is going to take us to the next level, and then we pasted Purdue (although I clearly saw that Purdue handed us that game), and Illinois barely squeezed by an FCS team.

Pretty much everything about that game has warning signs written all over it foretelling trouble ahead. Not the least of which was losing the starting QB for the year (and don't think Kay is going to carry us for the year. It's clear he's probably hurt in some capacity) and a starting CB, a position that's thin to start with. The Oline, which was supposed to be a huge strength couldn't block anyone yesterday. The defensive front, also supposed to be pretty good, got zero pressure on Illinois QB, something even the FCS Salukis were able to do in sacking him 5 times. Our receiving corp is supposed to be as talented as we've ever had, and they dropped balls like hot potatoes. And we now know that our offensive coordinator is in over his head because he hasn't figured out yet that a 5'-6", 160lb RB can't run between the tackles.

This was our last chance to make something happen before we are relegated to obscurity in the AAC, and most close observers predicted that it would happen. I don't see it.