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(09-06-2013 11:32 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 04:06 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watts and Mackin are far too reluctant to even consider re-opening that can of beans any time soon. No guts, no glory!

(09-06-2013 04:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We need to put enough butts in LF to pay for the stadium. By last count we need to average 18,500 per game. After what has been mandated they would be fools to present it before that happens.

+1 AB is right we need to average 18,500 PAID tickets - not just attendance. In the past UAB has announced season average attendance of 20 K+ but have averaged less than 6,000 in paid attendance

In the new investment/ entrepreneur sprit - we will need to convince our new President that UAB athletics can pay for OCS BEFORE it will even get UAB administration approval or support - time to put our money where our mouth is -

The ticket is paying butts in the seats AND fundraising for athletic projects in the up coming funding drive. Otherwise expect UAB to invest any new resources into funding research seed money as is his stated priority and all of UABs future

That was I-AA days. We are pretty accurate on our counts. We are also double checked by the local media. Only program that has to go through this crap on a weekly basis.

I know our crowd is still scrutinized but when you travel to different stadiums you realize we are pretty accurate on our counts for the most part. I always find it funny when we announce 18,000 (just throwing out a number) and people say Oh I know there was not 6,000 there and then the media thinks they are being cute and asks for a turnstile count and its 18,217. Go to a Tulane home game. Go to a Troy home game if you want to see inflated numbers.

(09-07-2013 10:40 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 11:32 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 04:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We need to put enough butts in LF to pay for the stadium. By last count we need to average 18,500 per game. After what has been mandated they would be fools to present it before that happens.

+1 AB is right we need to average 18,500 PAID tickets - not just attendance. In the past UAB has announced season average attendance of 20 K+ but have averaged less than 6,000 in paid attendance

In the new investment/ entrepreneur sprit - we will need to convince our new President that UAB athletics can pay for OCS BEFORE it will even get UAB administration approval or support - time to put our money where our mouth is -

The ticket is paying butts in the seats AND fundraising for athletic projects in the up coming funding drive. Otherwise expect UAB to invest any new resources into funding research seed money as is his stated priority and all of UABs future

That was I-AA days. We are pretty accurate on our counts. We are also double checked by the local media. Only program that has to go through this crap on a weekly basis.

I know our crowd is still scrutinized but when you travel to different stadiums you realize we are pretty accurate on our counts for the most part. I always find it funny when we announce 18,000 (just throwing out a number) and people say Oh I know there was not 6,000 there and then the media thinks they are being cute and asks for a turnstile count and its 18,217. Go to a Tulane home game. Go to a Troy home game if you want to see inflated numbers.

Debating apples and oranges- I actually agree with AB that attendance count is now pretty accurate. Attendance in the stands is nice measure but what we need now is to look at full price tickets sold.

Last year we averaged 15,269 in attendance for our six home games.
That sounds about right to me as to the number of people in the stands

However in full price tickets sold $ 400,000 total tickets revenue divided by 6 games divided by $ 20 means we average 3,333 sold
(Assume $20 a ticket and does not count Birmingham donation as tickets sold)

IMHO and for the OCS Business Plan calls for 18,500 tickets SOLD so we need a 15,000 increase in tickets sold - not an increase of 3,000 people in attendance in the stands to impress the president.

We have only one more OOC home game and then most of our home conference games are bunched late in the season. I hope we get some early wins and the weather cooperates so those might be better attended.

(09-07-2013 10:40 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 11:32 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 04:06 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watts and Mackin are far too reluctant to even consider re-opening that can of beans any time soon. No guts, no glory!

(09-06-2013 04:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We need to put enough butts in LF to pay for the stadium. By last count we need to average 18,500 per game. After what has been mandated they would be fools to present it before that happens.

+1 AB is right we need to average 18,500 PAID tickets - not just attendance. In the past UAB has announced season average attendance of 20 K+ but have averaged less than 6,000 in paid attendance

In the new investment/ entrepreneur sprit - we will need to convince our new President that UAB athletics can pay for OCS BEFORE it will even get UAB administration approval or support - time to put our money where our mouth is -

The ticket is paying butts in the seats AND fundraising for athletic projects in the up coming funding drive. Otherwise expect UAB to invest any new resources into funding research seed money as is his stated priority and all of UABs future

That was I-AA days. We are pretty accurate on our counts. We are also double checked by the local media. Only program that has to go through this crap on a weekly basis.

I know our crowd is still scrutinized but when you travel to different stadiums you realize we are pretty accurate on our counts for the most part. I always find it funny when we announce 18,000 (just throwing out a number) and people say Oh I know there was not 6,000 there and then the media thinks they are being cute and asks for a turnstile count and its 18,217. Go to a Tulane home game. Go to a Troy home game if you want to see inflated numbers.

Everyone else inflates their attendance numbers but UAB, right AB?

No not everyone. as for UAB I have seen many instances where the turnstile count sent in by the park board has been higher than the announced attendance. A few have been lower but UAB has been pretty much on the number. I just stated New Orleans as an example in another thread (I was there and took photos) where Tulane announced 16,000 and there might have been 2,000 people in the Dome. Not sure what you think is funny but whatever.

& it really isn't the attendance or announced attendance that is the problem.

The problem is that Solomon & some others in the media single out UAB for some reason while not applying the same sets of rules to others in similar situations.

(09-07-2013 11:26 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  We have only one more OOC home game and then most of our home conference games are bunched late in the season. I hope we get some early wins and the weather cooperates so those might be better attended.

Bad weather has never been a deterrent for me, far as going to games are concerned. Thunderstorms I have a healthy respect for and will act accordingly, but rain and/or snow I've never used as an excuse to not go to a game. But, given a choice, I'll take clear and 70* all day long!

(09-09-2013 12:27 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(09-07-2013 11:26 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  We have only one more OOC home game and then most of our home conference games are bunched late in the season. I hope we get some early wins and the weather cooperates so those might be better attended.

Bad weather has never been a deterrent for me, far as going to games are concerned. Thunderstorms I have a healthy respect for and will act accordingly, but rain and/or snow I've never used as an excuse to not go to a game. But, given a choice, I'll take clear and 70* all day long!

Most of the fairweather UAB fans don't share the same sentiment. Pun intended.

(09-09-2013 12:07 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  & it really isn't the attendance or announced attendance that is the problem.

The problem is that Solomon & some others in the media single out UAB for some reason while not applying the same sets of rules to others in similar situations.

I agree that was the problem, but I really haven't notice them harping on the attendance factor the past couple of years. If they did, I stand corrected. (Must have missed it.)

And AB it's funny to me, because EVERYONE inflates their attendance numbers. UA, AU, Samford, UNA, and even UAB. Most schools have their tickets sold number as their fall back, but it often isn't close to the number in attendance.

I guess you missed Soloman's photos of empty seats at Legion Field last year.

(09-09-2013 12:07 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  & it really isn't the attendance or announced attendance that is the problem.

The problem is that Solomon & some others in the media single out UAB for some reason while not applying the same sets of rules to others in similar situations.

Is there really another school in a similar situation as UAB in the state?

UAB is a Division 1 football team in a 1.3 million person Metro area without a pro team...not sure there's another similar situation.

(09-09-2013 01:26 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(09-09-2013 12:07 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  & it really isn't the attendance or announced attendance that is the problem.

The problem is that Solomon & some others in the media single out UAB for some reason while not applying the same sets of rules to others in similar situations.

Is there really another school in a similar situation as UAB in the state?

UAB is a Division 1 football team in a 1.3 million person Metro area without a pro team...not sure there's another similar situation.

I don't think there's a similar situation to UAB's in the entire United States.

Attendance has been an issue brought up by the media every year since UAB football's existence... if you haven't noticed, you aren't following UAB-related news closely.

Weather (too hot, too cold, too wet, too electrically charged) is a factor for most UAB fans with young kids, and that is a lot of us.

After attending UAB football games for 16 years, I can say that there were games with inflated attendance numbers, undercounted numbers (TCU and USM/Rueben come to mind), and fairly accurate counts. I've also seen other programs with announced crowd numbers so blatantly false, it's pathetic. I have also seen articles coming down on other programs' attendance... those never bothered me much because they weren't about the program I support.