confirmed.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...unc-player

Doesn't matter won't stick. Nothing to see here.

Outside of a Penn State style scandal, UNC is going to be able to get away with just about everything. Commisioners of SEC, ACC, Big Ten, as well as the head of NCAA are all UNC affiliated

This is nothing new. That is why he was ineligible his senior year along with Austin and Quinn. This is related to charging the agents by the state. Already punished for this.

This is about an agent trying to secure his services, not a booster trying to cheat to improve the product on the field. Not sure how you hang this on Carolina.

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(09-05-2013 06:16 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  This is about an agent trying to secure his services, not a booster trying to cheat to improve the product on the field. Not sure how you hang this on Carolina.

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Isn't that what got USC in trouble?

(09-05-2013 07:54 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 06:16 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  This is about an agent trying to secure his services, not a booster trying to cheat to improve the product on the field. Not sure how you hang this on Carolina.

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Isn't that what got USC in trouble?

Right. The NCAA seems to care more about agents paying players than academic fraud (North Carolina) or schools paying players (Auburn) or players selling themselves (A&M). They get real bent out of shape about agents. In fact that is the probably the main reason UNC got in much trouble under Butch Davis was the agent connections. Its why Ohio St. and Georgia Tech got in trouble.

The story is about the agent violating North Carolina law. The NCAA did investigate and issued penalties. The difference is the Secretary of State has subpoena powers. The NCAA believed the amount to be in excess of $5,000. The Secretary of State investigation revealed the amount to be in excess of $20,000.

The only way to link this to the school is through the tutor. They would need to prove that the University had knowledge of the tutor routing funds to the players. I don't see how you can do that if the tutor doesn't talk. However, that is not the point of the Secretary of State investigation.

(09-05-2013 05:47 PM)samandrea Wrote:  This is nothing new. That is why he was ineligible his senior year along with Austin and Quinn. This is related to charging the agents by the state. Already punished for this.

(09-06-2013 08:44 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The story is about the agent violating North Carolina law. The NCAA did investigate and issued penalties. The difference is the Secretary of State has subpoena powers. The NCAA believed the amount to be in excess of $5,000. The Secretary of State investigation revealed the amount to be in excess of $20,000.

The only way to link this to the school is through the tutor. They would need to prove that the University had knowledge of the tutor routing funds to the players. I don't see how you can do that if the tutor doesn't talk. However, that is not the point of the Secretary of State investigation.

They don't have to do any of that. They just have to satisfy themselves that the school looked the other way, which is what USC did. And they will still punish the school even if they don't suspect the school looked the other way if the player participated in any games. There would be forfeits. Now if they already punished the school for this player, I doubt this would change anything.

(09-06-2013 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 05:47 PM)samandrea Wrote:  This is nothing new. That is why he was ineligible his senior year along with Austin and Quinn. This is related to charging the agents by the state. Already punished for this.

They are currently on probation and all players were ruled ineligible. What else will satisfy you haters?

Carolina has pioneered many different ways to cheat the system.

They deserve the death penalty, but the NCAA will simply place a stern tongue lashing on their "permanent record".

(09-08-2013 06:07 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Carolina has pioneered many different ways to cheat the system.

They deserve the death penalty, but the NCAA will simply place a stern tongue lashing on their "permanent record".

No, the NCAA will respond to the shenanigans at UNC by placing NC State, Clemson, or VT on probation.

The NCAA is a joke. Who cares what they do? Does it really matter any longer?

(09-06-2013 09:09 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 08:44 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The story is about the agent violating North Carolina law. The NCAA did investigate and issued penalties. The difference is the Secretary of State has subpoena powers. The NCAA believed the amount to be in excess of $5,000. The Secretary of State investigation revealed the amount to be in excess of $20,000.

The only way to link this to the school is through the tutor. They would need to prove that the University had knowledge of the tutor routing funds to the players. I don't see how you can do that if the tutor doesn't talk. However, that is not the point of the Secretary of State investigation.

They don't have to do any of that. They just have to satisfy themselves that the school looked the other way, which is what USC did. And they will still punish the school even if they don't suspect the school looked the other way if the player participated in any games. There would be forfeits. Now if they already punished the school for this player, I doubt this would change anything.

That is what I meant. The only way to get the NCAA involved again is to prove the university had knowledge of the situation and, as you say, looked the other way. The only way I see that happening is for someone to confess. The tutor seems like the most obvious candidate.