don't laugh it could happen.......WVU a football first SEC type school, is not happy in the watered down new Big East. ECU, a sleeping giant, is the closest D1 football program, less then 50 miles away, from the large $$$$$$$ market of, Tidewater VA( Norfolk, Hampton,Newport News, VaBeach,Portmouth, Chesepeake) 4+million. the next closest D1 program is NCState 300 miles away. the ACC and BE blindly left, open, this vast, unifiliated market......that a, SEC afiliated, ECU, could quickly fill.........the ACC, has support in the Tidewater market ,but, its very soft support, as no ACC team is within 300 miles, of the Tidewater Va market........ECU, just a short 50 miles away , as a SEC afiliate, could, grab this vast market, right from under the very nose, of the pompus ACC . my hunch , the SEC cherry picks WVU and ECU within 10 years......the SEC, can see the tens of thousands of unifilated ACC haters, making the short 50 mile drive to ECU to see a SEC football game

God help us if that ever happens and yes, it will never happen

pirate65...you seem awfully desperate to go somewhere else...you spend a good bit of time pimping ECU on the Big East boards too.

SouthLink...I don't think I'll ever get tired of seeing that dog clip!

99Tiger Wrote:pirate65...you seem awfully desperate to go somewhere else...you spend a good bit of time pimping ECU on the Big East boards too.

SouthLink...I don't think I'll ever get tired of seeing that dog clip!

both Memphis and ECU, are not happy,and want out of the SWCLite ,oh, i mean the new, CUSA ........as soon as possible..........its just the truth......we are stuck there till the next big conference shake up........i think the BE splits and goes to 12.......or the SEC cherry picks ECU and WVU......and the BE cherry picks Memphis........however if ECU keeps losing we are stuck in CUSA fo a long time

SouthLink02 Wrote:God help us if that ever happens and yes, it will never happen

its business its about $$$ and market......Tidewater is just to big a market.....the ACC left it wide open..........closest D1 program is ECU...........next closest D1 program is almost 200+ miles away..........the SEC is just to smart not to put an afiliate in that large and overlooked market......ECU will be the SEC afiliate.......in that market. shure the ACC has support in Tidewater, but that support is soft.....a SEC afiliate in the area changes everything instantly...........its smart business the SEC will cherry pick ECU and WVU within 10 years

I don't think it's much of a secret that Memphis wants in the SEC...but we don't stand much of a chance until we can completely capture our own market. The problem is that we may make too much geographic sense. We sit right where Tennessee, Mississippi, and Arkansas meet...there are already a combined 5 teams from those 3 states in the SEC. Plus, Arkansas has never been too enamored with us.

Alas, we are in CUSA and not the SEC...but I'm still not going to sit here and waste my time pimping my school out to SEC fans (and BE fans) at every available opportunity.

Another question to ask, is how would grabbing ECU help garner the NC/VA market. That's an ACC market, and their addition of Va Tech just strengthens their hold. There are 6 ACC teams from Virginia and North Carolina...how would grabbing the red-headed stepchild of the region really turn the tide in those markets?

Don't take red-headed stepchild as an insult...but let's face it...you're not even 2nd or 3rd fiddle in your own state...you're 5th. Yes, you can say it's the pot calling the kettle black...but at least we're 2nd fiddle.

99Tiger Wrote:I don't think it's much of a secret that Memphis wants in the SEC...but we don't stand much of a chance until we can completely capture our own market. The problem is that we may make too much geographic sense. We sit right where Tennessee, Mississippi, and Arkansas meet...there are already a combined 5 teams from those 3 states in the SEC. Plus, Arkansas has never been too enamored with us.

Alas, we are in CUSA and not the SEC...but I'm still not going to sit here and waste my time pimping my school out to SEC fans (and BE fans) at every available opportunity.
>>>>>>>Memphis and ECU i think will be added to the BE when it splits.........as far as the ACC they do have support in Tidewater....but that support is very soft, VaTech is still 400+miles away.........ECU becoming a SEC afiliate would change everything instantly in that eastern NC and Tidewater very large and overlooked market.........hay, i want the best for my school, ECU......as you want the best for your Memphis,.....so why shouldn't i use these open platforms to voice my thoughts?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Another question to ask, is how would grabbing ECU help garner the NC/VA market. That's an ACC market, and their addition of Va Tech just strengthens their hold. There are 6 ACC teams from Virginia and North Carolina...how would grabbing the red-headed stepchild of the region really turn the tide in those markets?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ECU's afiliation with the SEC would change everything instantly.........the Tidewater media would quickly give ECU and the SEC bigtime coverage.there are lots of unifiliated(no D1 football,no major league sports franchise in the aera,ECU is the closest D1 program poised to take that market with a SEC afiliation) and ACC haters in that huge Tidewater Va eastern NC market. as Memphis' afiliation with the SEC or Big East would change everything in the Memphis market.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Don't take red-headed stepchild as an insult...but let's face it...you're not even 2nd or 3rd fiddle in your own state...you're 5th. Yes, you can say it's the pot calling the kettle black...but at least we're 2nd fiddle.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<with SEC afiliation ECU would not be the red-headed stepchild anymore. the ACC would have hart attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

see my answers above.........

Man, that was hard to follow...don't do that again.

...there's a difference between voicing your opinions/thoughts and going as far as to basically beg to be somewhere you aren't...

99Tiger Wrote:Man, that was hard to follow...don't do that again.

...there's a difference between voicing your opinions/thoughts and going as far as to basically beg to be somewhere you aren't...

beg?.......what are you talking about??????????? just laying out the fact that a large market is up for grabs...........ECU has never put together a real first class effort to enter the,ACC, BE or the SEC...........from what i understand Memphis put together a first class, effort to get into the Big East........ it got them nada..........the Big East took USF!!!!!!!!!!!! so according to you i should shut up..........never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're laying out an arguement that doesn't matter to a bunch of people who have no say in it. You act as if convincing the few UGA, Ole Miss, and Miss State fans that ECU woud be a good addition is going to mean squat if and when the SEC ever expands.

Internet message boards are for fighting and for OOTers to get local sports news...not laying out the direction of your university...sorry, I'm a little grumpy, but you post the same thing on multiple boards.

"take us, take us...we'll bring Tidewater...PLEASE...I'm desperate to win the approval of internet posters, because then everything will be better because ECU will obviously be leaving CUSA"

...and for the record...Boston College was determined to keep us out, and Steinbrenner pushed for USF...we couldn't compete with that.

99Tiger Wrote:You're laying out an arguement that doesn't matter to a bunch of people who have no say in it. You act as if convincing the few UGA, Ole Miss, and Miss State fans that ECU woud be a good addition is going to mean squat if and when the SEC ever expands.

Internet message boards are for fighting and for OOTers to get local sports news...not laying out the direction of your university...sorry, I'm a little grumpy, but you post the same thing on multiple boards.

"take us, take us...we'll bring Tidewater...PLEASE...I'm desperate to win the approval of internet posters, because then everything will be better because ECU will obviously be leaving CUSA"

...and for the record...Boston College was determined to keep us out, and Steinbrenner pushed for USF...we couldn't compete with that.

i just got over kidney stone treatment and passing the broken up stones..worst experience of my life..i am home mending...so i have time on my hands....to try to make a point......everybody that are true fans of ECU.....have gone through a bad couple of years.......lots of us liked coach Logan........and were quite upset when he was let go..........then they bring in a journeyman assistant coach to replace a qulity coach like Logan......he (JT) goes 1-11 and has the worst year in ECU history........the UNC system then fires the president of the university the AD is run off in disgrace.......there is no AD and no leadership when the ACC raids the BE and no leadership to try to make a case for ECU to the BE at liest Memphis had people trying to make a case for them in the BE..............there is still no AD at ECU........the new president some think he is a stooge for the UNC system......on the job less then 2 weeks tried to put in a gloryfied t shirt salesman.......and faced a vicious open revolt from the Pirate faithful......and he backed off..........a SEC connected guy who a lot of us wanted for the AD job had been brushed aside......well to say the liest.........a lot of us Pirates need to vent anywhere we can.......we are learning now, not to just sit back and wait for things to happen, we are going to invent a spot in the SEC, then take it!!!!!!!!!...... :mad:

You talk about all the people in the tidewater area that would follow ECU if you were ever in the SEC or Big East. What you forget to mention is a majority of those people are in the military. They will be there no more than 3 or 4 years and already have favorite teams were ever they are from in the US. They aren't going to grow up living in Nebraska watching Big 12 football and then join the Navy, get stationed in Norfolk a few years and turn into diehard ECU fans. I lived there for a few years and heard more about ODU than ECU.

Snap Wrote:You talk about all the people in the tidewater area that would follow ECU if you were ever in the SEC or Big East. What you forget to mention is a majority of those people are in the military. They will be there no more than 3 or 4 years and already have favorite teams were ever they are from in the US. They aren't going to grow up living in Nebraska watching Big 12 football and then join the Navy, get stationed in Norfolk a few years and turn into diehard ECU fans. I lived there for a few years and heard more about ODU than ECU.

i leved in Va Beach. out of 4+ million in Tidewater what % are military 10% -20%??? a lot are from SEC states??? what about the rest of the tidewater population maby 25% die hard ACC fans? that leaves 25-35% unifiliated? there is a wide open market in Tidewater......ODU.....had there chance for D1 football.....they had Forman Field 35,000 seats right on there campus (site of the old Oyster Bowl game that ECU sold out when they played in it, UVA played in it and couldn't sell it out) what did ODU do?......there BOT stupidly voted no to D1 football. then quickly tore down Forman Field, and put up dorms.........the market has been overlooked and undervalued.......ECUs afiliation with the SEC would change that instantly

Nature Boy Wrote:

yes i love wraslyn so much action

Good Lord there are so many better options then ECU....good lord that would be a horrible move.

SouthLink02 Wrote:Good Lord there are so many better options then ECU....good lord that would be a horrible move.

name one???? none bring as large a overlooked market. none bring as large a undervalued market.....no D1 program in that local area.....4+million....the SEC has seen it.....the ACC blindly overlooked it.......

I can honestly say that I know of only one ECU fan, other than the people on these boards. EVERYONE I know from Virgina and North Carolina is either a Duke, NC State, Virginia, VT, or North Carolina fan. I don't think that that territory is untapped and don't think that the SEC is taken very well in that area so I really don't think that if ECU was to join the SEC that more people would follow ECU. People follow teams, not conferences.

pirate65 Wrote:don't laugh it could happen.......WVU a football first SEC type school, is not happy in the watered down new Big East. ECU, a sleeping giant, is the closest D1 football program, less then 50 miles away, from the large $$$$$$$ market of, Tidewater VA( Norfolk, Hampton,Newport News, VaBeach,Portmouth, Chesepeake) 4+million. the next closest D1 program is NCState 300 miles away. the ACC and BE blindly left, open, this vast, unifiliated market......that a, SEC afiliated, ECU, could quickly fill.........the ACC, has support in the Tidewater market ,but, its very soft support, as no ACC team is within 300 miles, of the Tidewater Va market........ECU, just a short 50 miles away , as a SEC afiliate, could, grab this vast market, right from under the very nose, of the pompus ACC . my hunch , the SEC cherry picks WVU and ECU within 10 years......the SEC, can see the tens of thousands of unifilated ACC haters, making the short 50 mile drive to ECU to see a SEC football game

:lolup: Don't even get your hopes up on this one. The SEC would never even think about bringing in two nothing happening schools like ECU and WVU. What in the wide world do you think these two could bring to the conference? East Carolina is 5th within it's own state for crying out loud. There is a good reason why the ACC has never offered a invitation to these two schools. ECU and WVU sports are very :snore: :snore: :snore: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Nature Boy Wrote:

pirate65 Wrote:don't laugh it could happen.......WVU a football first SEC type school, is not happy in the watered down new Big East. ECU, a sleeping giant, is the closest D1 football program, less then 50 miles away, from the large $$$$$$$ market of, Tidewater VA( Norfolk, Hampton,Newport News, VaBeach,Portmouth, Chesepeake) 4+million. the next closest D1 program is NCState 300 miles away. the ACC and BE blindly left, open, this vast, unifiliated market......that a, SEC afiliated, ECU, could quickly fill.........the ACC, has support in the Tidewater market ,but, its very soft support, as no ACC team is within 300 miles, of the Tidewater Va market........ECU, just a short 50 miles away , as a SEC afiliate, could, grab this vast market, right from under the very nose, of the pompus ACC . my hunch , the SEC cherry picks WVU and ECU within 10 years......the SEC, can see the tens of thousands of unifilated ACC haters, making the short 50 mile drive to ECU&nbsp; to see a SEC football game

:lolup: Don't even get your hopes up on this one. The SEC would never even think about bringing in two nothing happening schools like ECU and WVU. What in the wide world do you think these two could bring to the conference? East Carolina is 5th within it's own state for crying out loud. There is a good reason why the ACC has never offered a invitation to these two schools. ECU and WVU sports are very :snore: :snore: :snore: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

sure the ACC has support in Tidewater..very soft support..a mile wide an an inch deep....... a ACC team hasn't played a game in Tidewater in 20 years.........and couldn't even sell out the Oyster Bowl..........the ACC left the tidewater market wide open, took a huge market for granted.......the SEC woun't :