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PATHETIC

1. Winning is a process. Going from expecting to lose to being able to win isn't as simple as some of you would like it to be. First you have to get in position to compete, then you have to have a possibility of winning, then you have to win the close ones, learn to close out games, and how to put teams away when you have a lead. Yes, changing that culture amongst players who have grown to expect to lose is hard (see Vandy). Expecting to win comes from WINNING not from fans outside perspectives of what a team is capable of. It seems to me that this team has made progress towards charging that mentality. We could have easily beat Troy and that will be a valuable lesson for this team going forward, it's not over until it's over.

2. Troy is a solid and viable football program no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise, they have beaten better programs than UAB, especially at home.

3. We haven't made the sacrifices that these players have made, we haven't trained like they have, we have not spent the long hours laboring over plans, stressing over strategies, and analyzing countless hours of film like the coaches have. THEY WANT TO WIN WORSE THAN YOU AND IT HURTS THEM MORE THAN YOU WHEN THEY DON'T.

4. Drop the unwarranted, unsubstantiated superiority complex that you have, WE ARE WHAT OUR RECORD SAYS WE ARE!

5. If a player would post that he has given up on the season because of one loss, the fans would be outraged but we are fans "it's different for us". I say a program is only as strong as it's weakest link and if you have given up on this team after one game... YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK, so you are really helping the program by removing yourself.

Frustration is to be expected but giving up is for COWARDS. GO BLAZERS beat LSU again.

Great post, and right on.

People are linking the WB and NC eras to Garrick McGee as though it's all one thing. Yes, we've been losing for a while, and if that were one coach it would be even more terrible. But this is just the beginning of year 2 under a new coach. Give McGee a chance. It isn't his fault that UAB has been losing for nearly a decade and that we as fans are weary from it. He isn't perfect as a coach, but I honestly feel like history will show him to be a better coach than WB or NC, given the chance. Remember, even some of the best coaches in the game make mistakes and lose games they shouldn't, especially early in their careers.

Agree, it took Frank Beamer a long time to start winning at Virginia Tech.......same with Bill Snyder at Kansas State. Hopefully, Coach McGee will be here for the long run. If he had a lot of instant success (like Petrino will probably have at Western UK), he would be immediately snatched up by a higher paying school.

(09-02-2013 11:45 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  then you have to win the close ones

I'd be happy with winning games that are two touchdown leads in the fourth quarter.

(09-02-2013 12:30 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 11:45 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  then you have to win the close ones

I'd be happy with winning games that are two touchdown leads in the fourth quarter.

I guess you missed this part.
learn to close out games, and how to put teams away when you have a lead.

I'm with you...but I get sort of sick of the "players are the ones doing the work" sort of arguments when it comes to fans' thoughts.

That's true, and I respect the hell out of our players and appreciate all the work they and the coaches do every season. That being said, fans put in a lot of time and money. Most of our players get a scholarship to go through what they do, they earn a free education in the process.

We choose to give our time and money to the program, we have a right to say what we want too. Especially when some fans have been fans longer than some of the current players have been born.

I think a lot of Blazer fans have made sacrifices for the team. Spending money to donate to their scholarships, taking the time and money to travel to support the team. Fans can't be downplayed just because the players are the ones doing work on the field.

I do think it's ridiculous the people that are saying "I'm done." Please, if THAT was the game that caused you to be done, you should have quit A LONG TIME AGO.

We need an "I'm Done" forum where all of the I'm done-ers can go & be happy together, relinquishing their rights to come back to the reality forums.

I'm kind of new around here, but was kind of surprised at the extreme negativity of some after the game........I can understand being mad, but losing by 3 on the road is still better than 10 at home. Improvement, slowly but surely.

You will find that there are some negative nancys that poke their head out every now & then.

Some don't want to be reminded that changing a negative culture in a program is not as easy as changing a coaching staff and bringing in a few new players. It may be that until our team is better conditioned (facility improvement), the late game swoons may not be totally eliminated.

It certainly will not happen by keeping your head stuck in the sand though.

I for one don't like those fans talking bad about us from the other schools in the state. To hear it from so called fans here is actually worse in a lot of cases.

(09-02-2013 01:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  It may be that until our team is better conditioned (facility improvement), the late game swoons may not be totally eliminated.

No team is better conditioned than one that is forced to practice outside in the hot and humid weather.

Our weight room is fantastic.

Give it a rest.

(09-02-2013 01:19 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  We need an "I'm Done" forum where all of the I'm done-ers can go & be happy together, relinquishing their rights to come back to the reality forums.

I think that was called UABfans.com, wasn't it?

(09-02-2013 11:45 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  PATHETIC

1. Winning is a process. Going from expecting to lose to being able to win isn't as simple as some of you would like it to be. First you have to get in position to compete, then you have to have a possibility of winning, then you have to win the close ones, learn to close out games, and how to put teams away when you have a lead. Yes, changing that culture amongst players who have grown to expect to lose is hard (see Vandy). Expecting to win comes from WINNING not from fans outside perspectives of what a team is capable of. It seems to me that this team has made progress towards charging that mentality. We could have easily beat Troy and that will be a valuable lesson for this team going forward, it's not over until it's over.

2. Troy is a solid and viable football program no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise, they have beaten better programs than UAB, especially at home.

3. We haven't made the sacrifices that these players have made, we haven't trained like they have, we have not spent the long hours laboring over plans, stressing over strategies, and analyzing countless hours of film like the coaches have. THEY WANT TO WIN WORSE THAN YOU AND IT HURTS THEM MORE THAN YOU WHEN THEY DON'T.

4. Drop the unwarranted, unsubstantiated superiority complex that you have, WE ARE WHAT OUR RECORD SAYS WE ARE!

5. If a player would post that he has given up on the season because of one loss, the fans would be outraged but we are fans "it's different for us". I say a program is only as strong as it's weakest link and if you have given up on this team after one game... YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK, so you are really helping the program by removing yourself.

Frustration is to be expected but giving up is for COWARDS. GO BLAZERS beat LSU again.

(09-02-2013 01:14 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  I'm with you...but I get sort of sick of the "players are the ones doing the work" sort of arguments when it comes to fans' thoughts.

That's true, and I respect the hell out of our players and appreciate all the work they and the coaches do every season. That being said, fans put in a lot of time and money. Most of our players get a scholarship to go through what they do, they earn a free education in the process.

We choose to give our time and money to the program, we have a right to say what we want too. Especially when some fans have been fans longer than some of the current players have been born.

I think a lot of Blazer fans have made sacrifices for the team. Spending money to donate to their scholarships, taking the time and money to travel to support the team. Fans can't be downplayed just because the players are the ones doing work on the field.

I do think it's ridiculous the people that are saying "I'm done." Please, if THAT was the game that caused you to be done, you should have quit A LONG TIME AGO.

Spot on... +1... Before anyone can judge the criticism that fans dish out, the question should be asked about the financial sacrifice that is made to support the program. If I can't complaint after a 4 qtr meltdown, then then I have other places to spend my money. The fan rating for last Saturday was an A+.

(09-02-2013 01:37 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 01:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  It may be that until our team is better conditioned (facility improvement), the late game swoons may not be totally eliminated.

No team is better conditioned than one that is forced to practice outside in the hot and humid weather.

Our weight room is fantastic.

Give it a rest.

We have a brand new weight room with state of the art equipment.
We have a brand new academic center for athletics complete with computer labs.
We have one of the finest training facilities in the entire country with the largest cold pool in the country at one point.
We have a brand new football building on the drawing board with meeting rooms and new locker rooms.
We have a brand new practice field complete with artificial turf on the drawing boards.
We have a stadium on the back burner that will be built in the not so distant future.

We need to stop whining about facilities. The coaches and players need to perform and the fans need to show up and support them and make sure we have the attendance to make the stadium come sooner than later.

I have no problem with folks complaining. We sure have earned that right but lets stop the whining and stop with the gloom and doom shut it down attitude. It only gives our enemies more ammunition.

(09-02-2013 01:37 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 01:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  It may be that until our team is better conditioned (facility improvement), the late game swoons may not be totally eliminated.

No team is better conditioned than one that is forced to practice outside in the hot and humid weather.

Our weight room is fantastic.

Give it a rest.

OK, We have a "fantastic weight room" so there is no need for further improvements in facilities - right? We experienced late game "swoons" all during the Brown and Callaway eras and now we see it again this week. Will we be happy with 3/4 game wins every year?

(09-02-2013 01:50 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 01:37 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 01:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  It may be that until our team is better conditioned (facility improvement), the late game swoons may not be totally eliminated.

No team is better conditioned than one that is forced to practice outside in the hot and humid weather.

Our weight room is fantastic.

Give it a rest.

OK, We have a "fantastic weight room" so there is no need for further improvements in facilities - right? We experienced late game "swoons" all during the Brown and Callaway eras and now we see it again this week. Will we be happy with 3/4 game wins every year?

(09-02-2013 01:46 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We have a brand new weight room with state of the art equipment.
We have a brand new academic center for athletics complete with computer labs.
We have one of the finest training facilities in the entire country with the largest cold pool in the country at one point.
We have a brand new football building on the drawing board with meeting rooms and new locker rooms.
We have a brand new practice field complete with artificial turf on the drawing boards.
We have a stadium on the back burner that will be built in the not so distant future.

We need to stop whining about facilities. The coaches and players need to perform and the fans need to show up and support them and make sure we have the attendance to make the stadium come sooner than later.

I have no problem with folks complaining. We sure have earned that right but lets stop the whining and stop with the gloom and doom shut it down attitude. It only gives our enemies more ammunition.

The football building has been on the drawing board since the early 2000's. That's when I saw a model of one in the athletics office.
Other than turf and lights, the next football specific anything that is built down there will be the first thing. I'll believe those things are going to happen when they start being built.

That said, we can still have a decent season and program without them.

Seems it was mostly Troy players dropping like flies with cramps. Maybe they need better facilities.