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(07-20-2013 08:11 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:33 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:44 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Could it be a ploy to keep less wealthy people out of Hoover?

Kiss their football dominance goodbye.

Is that racist? I don't know, but it's true.

You act as though some of these players weren't somehow given housing in the district to be eligible students. They'll find a way.

Probably.

I remember Mountain Brook (?) getting caught playing a couple of kids that lived in a post office box, about 20 years ago.

(07-21-2013 05:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 08:11 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:33 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:44 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Could it be a ploy to keep less wealthy people out of Hoover?

Kiss their football dominance goodbye.

Is that racist? I don't know, but it's true.

You act as though some of these players weren't somehow given housing in the district to be eligible students. They'll find a way.

Probably.

I remember Mountain Brook (?) getting caught playing a couple of kids that lived in a post office box, about 20 years ago.

See post #19 above.

WED (9/4/13) NEWS - pages one & 12 - points out that the state pays up to 80.7% of transport costs with the district picking up the remaining 19.3%. Will Hoover continue to get that part of its state funding if buses for regular students are suspended?

Does anyone believe the Hoover sports teams will have to be carried to games by their parents next year? Will the parents of the Souzaphone players have to get a minivan to get their kids and their instruments to the games?

According to the article, the state does not pay for busing students who live within 2 miles of the school. Will this be a factor in saving money? Also, if every parent must now drive his kid(s) to their school(s) and pick them up after school, is the traffic control at the schools ready for that potential "jam"? (There is the potential for 30+ autos for every bus no longer available.)

Alabama Systems without bus service:
Mountain Brook, Tuscumbia, Cullman, Homewood, and Muscle Shoals.

Piedmont, Demopolis, Linden, and Haleyville don't have buses but their students are served by their county district's buses.

There is no state law requiring ANY school districts to provide transportation for regular students, and students who live over 2 miles from a school have been required by state law to attend school at all only since the 1980s. That fact contributes to the state's average educational level of about 8th or 9th grade for all native born state citizens today.

(09-04-2013 01:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Alabama Systems without bus service:
Mountain Brook, Tuscumbia, Cullman, Homewood, and Muscle Shoals.

And Vestavia Hills. We have some busses, but they aren't used to get kids to and from school. They take teams and school groups to competitions and events, and that's it.

(09-05-2013 11:42 AM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 01:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Alabama Systems without bus service:
Mountain Brook, Tuscumbia, Cullman, Homewood, and Muscle Shoals.

And Vestavia Hills. We have some busses, but they aren't used to get kids to and from school. They take teams and school groups to competitions and events, and that's it.

The article mentioned Vestavia Hills, but said the buses are for students in the Oxmoor Valley area. I'm not conversant with the true city limits of VH, but the 5 listed districts were those having NO buses for daily transport at all. My wife, who lived in Mountain Brook on Old Leeds Road, in her first marriage, has many stories of her car-pool days there when her 3 kids were in MB schools.

School systems without bus service still have school buses... even private schools without bus service still have school buses. Hoover is proposing to cut daily morning/afternoon bus routes for the general population, saving money on gas, insurance, and salaries for bus drivers. You'll still have coaches and other employees with their CDLs and bus driver certificates driving the cheese for sports, bands, and choirs.

Yet according to a story on al.com on Sunday, Hoover has 3 police helicopters (one that they own, two that they lease from JeffCo) and are spending nearly a million bucks to upgrade/maintain them. How much crime goes on in Hoover anyway?

(09-05-2013 06:17 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Yet according to a story on al.com on Sunday, Hoover has 3 police helicopters (one that they own, two that they lease from JeffCo) and are spending nearly a million bucks to upgrade/maintain them. How much crime goes on in Hoover anyway?

Their police department has all kinds of fun, expensive vehicles to play with.

(09-05-2013 02:43 PM)UABslant Wrote:  You'll still have coaches and other employees with their CDLs and bus driver certificates driving the cheese for sports, bands, and choirs.

AND THE MATH TEAM!!!

(09-05-2013 10:15 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 02:43 PM)UABslant Wrote:  You'll still have coaches and other employees with their CDLs and bus driver certificates driving the cheese for sports, bands, and choirs.

AND THE MATH TEAM!!!

I trust those drivers don't mind being individually liable for any injuries to students being transported by part-time drivers. The courts have ruled that any student injured while under the authority of school personnel can sue the person in charge of them (as well as the district) when they get injured.

If not a member of AEA, they will have to hire their own lawyers and pay out of pocket for them.

(09-05-2013 10:14 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 06:17 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Yet according to a story on al.com on Sunday, Hoover has 3 police helicopters (one that they own, two that they lease from JeffCo) and are spending nearly a million bucks to upgrade/maintain them. How much crime goes on in Hoover anyway?

Their police department has all kinds of fun, expensive vehicles to play with.

This is primarily because since 9/11 and The Patriot Act, police departments have lobbied for federal monies to 'prevent terrorism' by purchasing all kinds of ridiculous equipment.

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/13/radley_b...to_use_it/