BearcatD Wrote:I think people are being to critical of Huggs.
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I nominate this for biggest understatement of the year

BearcatOne Wrote:

WacoBearcat Wrote:If I were Cronin I would communicate to Xavier to go ahead and schedule Kansas State at the hockey arena. But you can forget about playing Cincinnati.

I agree Waco. It would be an excellent opportunity for UC to say good-bye to both Xavier and the cross-town shootout. Now that we are in the Big East we no longer need this game.

Most national basketball fans know that Xavier was a nobody until it started upsetting UC in the shootout. End the shoot-out and Xavier fades into obscurity.

UC fans who don't want to end the shootout are only feeding Xavier's fantasies and pocket book. The shootout is not a good game for the bearcats. UC should have ended the series 10 years ago.

Although I have no love for Zimpher and the UC administration, if they end the shoot-out I will feel much less antagonism toward them.

BearcatOne
A Proud UC Alum

I agree we have nothing to gain from the X game, we are the best team they play every season and it usually just ends up hurting our RPI thanks to the craptacular A10. Add in the fact they pushed the game back from early in the season to after the start of conference play it makes it all the more worthless.

i personally would love if Huggs came to US Bank to whoop up on Eggzavier. I don' t see a downside to it. I really don't know where all these Huggs bashers were when he was coach, but they need to get a grip on things.
Huggs locking up Mayo and Walker by having them play in Cincy is nothing more than good recruiting. Nothing illegal or unethical.
I would bet he wants this game to so he can shove it up Nancys azz when he outdraws the Shoe's largest crowd, but can you blame him? Don't you ever want to screw over your former boss who treated you like garbage?

Most X fans don't want to see this game either, but the admininstration is having trouble passing up a 2 for 1 with a Big 12 school.

I agree it is time to end the shootout. The game isn't needed by either school anymore. It is nice to save travel expenses by only traveling 8 or 9 miles but you guys have the big east, and X will prob. be able to pick up some mid level BCS schools that could equal UC's RPI the next 4 or 5 years. The game is just becoming aggravating, and kind of a snoozer in the middle of the conference season. UC definately needs to start the Big East style of Non Con scheduling the next few years.

BearcatOne Wrote:

WacoBearcat Wrote:If I were Cronin I would communicate to Xavier to go ahead and schedule Kansas State at the hockey arena. But you can forget about playing Cincinnati.

I agree Waco. It would be an excellent opportunity for UC to say good-bye to both Xavier and the cross-town shootout. Now that we are in the Big East we no longer need this game.

Most national basketball fans know that Xavier was a nobody until it started upsetting UC in the shootout. End the shoot-out and Xavier fades into obscurity.

UC fans who don't want to end the shootout are only feeding Xavier's fantasies and pocket book. The shootout is not a good game for the bearcats. UC should have ended the series 10 years ago.

Although I have no love for Zimpher and the UC administration, if they end the shoot-out I will feel much less antagonism toward them.

BearcatOne
A Proud UC Alum

Woa Dog... I would not piss on the XU program to save it from burning down. However, let's give the devil his due...before X started beating our number one ranked teams under Huggy bear...X had been the big show in this town for awhile... a few things like a sweet sixteen appearance and players like Larkin and Tyrone Hill made that so.

I'll refer to this as the Huggy syndrome. UC has a winning traditon before hug and we won for so long with him here...folks think that is the way of the universe...well some of us old dogs can tell you, there was a time UC played second fiddle in this town to XU.

That said...I would like to drop the cross-town game, but it will not happen in our life times IMO.

stophorseabuse Wrote:Most X fans don't want to see this game either, but the admininstration is having trouble passing up a 2 for 1 with a Big 12 school.

I agree it is time to end the shootout. The game isn't needed by either school anymore. It is nice to save travel expenses by only traveling 8 or 9 miles but you guys have the big east, and X will prob. be able to pick up some mid level BCS schools that could equal UC's RPI the next 4 or 5 years. The game is just becoming aggravating, and kind of a snoozer in the middle of the conference season. UC definately needs to start the Big East style of Non Con scheduling the next few years.

X fans don't want the game because they know they'll get the asses kicked. Bob is refreshed, and more importantly, pissed off. I expect to see vintage 1992 style Bob Huggins for the next few years. If one of the games is at US Bank that's a default home game for Huggins.

X should take the games though, they will need any RPI boost it can get playing in the craptacular A10.

Kenyon#4 Wrote:

stophorseabuse Wrote:Most X fans don't want to see this game either, but the admininstration is having trouble passing up a 2 for 1 with a Big 12 school.

I agree it is time to end the shootout. The game isn't needed by either school anymore. It is nice to save travel expenses by only traveling 8 or 9 miles but you guys have the big east, and X will prob. be able to pick up some mid level BCS schools that could equal UC's RPI the next 4 or 5 years. The game is just becoming aggravating, and kind of a snoozer in the middle of the conference season. UC definately needs to start the Big East style of Non Con scheduling the next few years.

X fans don't want the game because they know they'll get the asses kicked. Bob is refreshed, and more importantly, pissed off. I expect to see vintage 1992 style Bob Huggins for the next few years. If one of the games is at US Bank that's a default home game for Huggins.

X should take the games though, they will need any RPI boost it can get playing in the craptacular A10.

X fans don't want the games because they don't want the Cincy games at US Bank Arena. They all say it would be OK if they were at Cintas.

subflea Wrote:

Kenyon#4 Wrote:

stophorseabuse Wrote:Most X fans don't want to see this game either, but the admininstration is having trouble passing up a 2 for 1 with a Big 12 school.

I agree it is time to end the shootout. The game isn't needed by either school anymore. It is nice to save travel expenses by only traveling 8 or 9 miles but you guys have the big east, and X will prob. be able to pick up some mid level BCS schools that could equal UC's RPI the next 4 or 5 years. The game is just becoming aggravating, and kind of a snoozer in the middle of the conference season. UC definately needs to start the Big East style of Non Con scheduling the next few years.

X fans don't want the game because they know they'll get the asses kicked. Bob is refreshed, and more importantly, pissed off. I expect to see vintage 1992 style Bob Huggins for the next few years. If one of the games is at US Bank that's a default home game for Huggins.

X should take the games though, they will need any RPI boost it can get playing in the craptacular A10.

X fans don't want the games because they don't want the Cincy games at US Bank Arena. They all say it would be OK if they were at Cintas.

Meh, that's their excuse. They just don't want all the UC people there.

BearcatOne Wrote:Most national basketball fans know that Xavier was a nobody until it started upsetting UC in the shootout. End the shoot-out and Xavier fades into obscurity.

UC fans who don't want to end the shootout are only feeding Xavier's fantasies and pocket book. The shootout is not a good game for the bearcats. UC should have ended the series 10 years ago.

Although I have no love for Zimpher and the UC administration, if they end the shoot-out I will feel much less antagonism toward them.

BearcatOne
A Proud UC Alum

So UC should drop a game against a team that is generally in RPI top 100 so they can schedule more games with Sunbelt teams?

No thanks.

Personally I think having games like the Xavier game make the schedule fun. I have never understood why so many people want to drop Xavier off the schedule.

By the way , Xavier made it to the elite 8 3 years ago, UC hasn't been there for 10 years.

mlb Wrote:

BearcatOne Wrote:Most national basketball fans know that Xavier was a nobody until it started upsetting UC in the shootout. End the shoot-out and Xavier fades into obscurity.

UC fans who don't want to end the shootout are only feeding Xavier's fantasies and pocket book. The shootout is not a good game for the bearcats. UC should have ended the series 10 years ago.

Although I have no love for Zimpher and the UC administration, if they end the shoot-out I will feel much less antagonism toward them.

BearcatOne
A Proud UC Alum

So UC should drop a game against a team that is generally in RPI top 100 so they can schedule more games with Sunbelt teams?

No thanks.

Personally I think having games like the Xavier game make the schedule fun. I have never understood why so many people want to drop Xavier off the schedule.

By the way , Xavier made it to the elite 8 3 years ago, UC hasn't been there for 10 years.

I agree - this is a big rivalry game that this city and even the nation enjoys. The only problem with this game is that UC hasn't won it very much lately. Let's hope Cronin can turn that around.

Quote:When Knight left Indiana for Texas Tech.........to his credit, he moved on. You didn't see him trying to schedule Indiana teams, play in Indiana, and he didn't actively even recruit Indiana to a large degree.

knight may not have been scheduling indiana teams, but he did write a best selling book where he spends a chapter and a half basically ripping in to myles brand and criticizing the athletic dept at indiana. i wouldn't call that gracefully moving on. i'm not saying his criticism wasn't deserved, but he didn't just let it go. he DID lash back.

No problem with the game here, as long as they play it while UC is on the road or idle.

mlb Wrote:

BearcatOne Wrote:Most national basketball fans know that Xavier was a nobody until it started upsetting UC in the shootout. End the shoot-out and Xavier fades into obscurity.

UC fans who don't want to end the shootout are only feeding Xavier's fantasies and pocket book. The shootout is not a good game for the bearcats. UC should have ended the series 10 years ago.

Although I have no love for Zimpher and the UC administration, if they end the shoot-out I will feel much less antagonism toward them.

BearcatOne
A Proud UC Alum

So UC should drop a game against a team that is generally in RPI top 100 so they can schedule more games with Sunbelt teams?

No thanks.

Personally I think having games like the Xavier game make the schedule fun. I have never understood why so many people want to drop Xavier off the schedule.

By the way , Xavier made it to the elite 8 3 years ago, UC hasn't been there for 10 years.

The problem with the Xavier game is that it does nothing for UC. Xavier's tradition doesn't even reach UC's ankle. Yes, Xavier went to numerous NCAA tournaments during UC's down years but so what. UC rebounded and doesn't need Xavier competing with it for basketball fans. UC should rule this city and southwest Ohio. The UC coach should not have to worry about pesky little school down the road stealing his thunder. End the shoot out and UC's average attendance should swell to 15 or 16 thousand per game. As a result, the administration would justify constructing a new arena that would hold up to 20 thousand. That puts us in the league with other premier college basketball programs.