(08-30-2013 02:35 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 01:34 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  UConn would have already had a hard time getting in the ACC were we to expand again unless it was a Notre Dame joins fully +1 kind of situation. I think this game will do serious damage to any chance they had of getting in one day, and will solidify FSU, Clemson, GT and BC's stance against them (not sure if those were all the schools voting no or not or if those are all correct).

syracuse takes a hardline stance against them as well. we dont want to elevate another northeast team because that means fewer recruits and smaller tv viewership

NC State and VT do not want them.

Turn the question around and ask it this way - who in the ACC would actively campaign on UConn's behalf? Answer - No One.

None of the current ACC teams want them.

That does not mean that 2 or 3 ACC teams did not favor UConn over Louisville - the did, but just because they favored UConn over Louisville, does not mean they are FOR UConn.

The only scenario that gets UConn to an ACC invite is for Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, NC State and BC to all leave the ACC. Those six are not going to vote for UConn - ever.

(08-30-2013 01:34 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  UConn would have already had a hard time getting in the ACC were we to expand again unless it was a Notre Dame joins fully +1 kind of situation. I think this game will do serious damage to any chance they had of getting in one day, and will solidify FSU, Clemson, GT and BC's stance against them (not sure if those were all the schools voting no or not or if those are all correct).

The situation you mention - ND upping football from 5 to 8 or 9 games with it's hand picked 16th is a scenario that only applies to Navy. ND only has that kind of relationship with Navy and no other school.

If a meteor falls out of the sky and destroys Boston and Chestnut Hill, then, and only then does UConn have a chance. The bring very little and have enormous baggage.

from people ive talked to uconns problems are not related to the school but the administration. the former big east schools despised that school because they felt the school wasnt run properly had shady athletics shady academics (which hearing that about uconn really surprised me) but most importantly was that they felt uconn celebrated their sleezyness with an example being their bb coach and the latest ncaa scandal

a lot of those comments surprised me and i guess uconn is easy to hate because they are new to fbs & a relatively new bb power who arrived very quickly to national prominence. they challenged the old guard and when you do so you open yourself to hate. im sure being the a public school in a region dominated by privates doesnt help their case either.

maybe these attitudes spread to the acc by the schools who joined that conference, or maybe these attitudes extended to the acc because the acc schools felt the same way.

but i always felt that there was more to the picture for why uconn keeps getting passed over by the acc/b10

Uconn will beat Buffalo to go 1-11 on the season. Coach P will be fired and they will go after... the HC at Towson.

Truthfully, they are not in a good area for college football or the recruiting of players. Aside from the occasional 8 win season, they should not expect much. ECU has an easier time in recruiting than UConn does, I would imagine... and ours is no cakewalk. I would compare ECU's situation to that of Memphis's in the regard.

It's for this reason that our conference needs to focus on southern or (especially) western schools in the future should we choose to expand.

(08-30-2013 11:49 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  It's sport. This is why we bother putting the players on the field and playing the game, instead of just comparing budgets.

So true. Yet so many people seemingly don't get it.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Was it not a few weeks ago that they were "to good" to be in their conference and all this money they have was doing something?

Now the Uconn fans are starting to disappear and Syracuse fans are next.

(08-30-2013 03:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  from people ive talked to uconns problems are not related to the school but the administration. the former big east schools despised that school because they felt the school wasnt run properly had shady athletics shady academics (which hearing that about uconn really surprised me) but most importantly was that they felt uconn celebrated their sleezyness with an example being their bb coach and the latest ncaa scandal

a lot of those comments surprised me and i guess uconn is easy to hate because they are new to fbs & a relatively new bb power who arrived very quickly to national prominence. they challenged the old guard and when you do so you open yourself to hate. im sure being the a public school in a region dominated by privates doesnt help their case either.

maybe these attitudes spread to the acc by the schools who joined that conference, or maybe these attitudes extended to the acc because the acc schools felt the same way.

but i always felt that there was more to the picture for why uconn keeps getting passed over by the acc/b10

What was UConn's latest athletic "scandal"?

For that matter, what wereUConn's earlier athletic "scandals" that made this one the "latest"?

(08-30-2013 05:16 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Uconn will beat Buffalo to go 1-11 on the season. Coach P will be fired and they will go after... the HC at Towson.

Truthfully, they are not in a good area for college football or the recruiting of players. Aside from the occasional 8 win season, they should not expect much. ECU has an easier time in recruiting than UConn does, I would imagine... and ours is no cakewalk. I would compare ECU's situation to that of Memphis's in the regard.

It's for this reason that our conference needs to focus on southern or (especially) western schools in the future should we choose to expand.

Truthfully you,re out of touch with reality. The "occasional 8 win season???

UConn has had six 8 win seasons in the past 10 years. It's not an occasional thing for us. Heck, we've had a couple of 9 win seasons thrown into the mix.

One thing I do agree with is that Pasqualoni will be gone after this season. He was a bad hire from the get go.

BTW, ECU has only had four 8 win seasons in the past 10 years. Maybe yours is the school that can expect "the occasional 8 win season.

(08-31-2013 02:56 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 05:16 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Uconn will beat Buffalo to go 1-11 on the season. Coach P will be fired and they will go after... the HC at Towson.

Truthfully, they are not in a good area for college football or the recruiting of players. Aside from the occasional 8 win season, they should not expect much. ECU has an easier time in recruiting than UConn does, I would imagine... and ours is no cakewalk. I would compare ECU's situation to that of Memphis's in the regard.

It's for this reason that our conference needs to focus on southern or (especially) western schools in the future should we choose to expand.

Truthfully you,re out of touch with reality. The "occasional 8 win season???

UConn has had six 8 win seasons in the past 10 years. It's not an occasional thing for us. Heck, we've had a couple of 9 win seasons thrown into the mix.

One thing I do agree with is that Pasqualoni will be gone after this season. He was a bad hire from the get go.

BTW, ECU has only had four 8 win seasons in the past 10 years. Maybe yours is the school that can expect "the occasional 8 win season.

Melky you and I don't agree on much but we do agree on this point right here....

(08-30-2013 05:16 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Uconn will beat Buffalo to go 1-11 on the season. Coach P will be fired and they will go after... the HC at Towson.

Truthfully, they are not in a good area for college football or the recruiting of players. Aside from the occasional 8 win season, they should not expect much. ECU has an easier time in recruiting than UConn does, I would imagine... and ours is no cakewalk. I would compare ECU's situation to that of Memphis's in the regard.

It's for this reason that our conference needs to focus on southern or (especially) western schools in the future should we choose to expand.

I don’t think geography has anything to do with it. Temple recruits CT and one of if not their best defensive player is a true sophomore from Stratford, and UConn didn’t even look at the kid. There is plenty of talent in the area. I think the problems revolve much more around the head coach. Frankly, I was surprised he survived and kept his job after last season. UConn was much better personal wise than there record last season.

im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

1. they didnt just lose to an FCS team but got dominated and pushed around the field.

2. we have heard so much from uconn fans complaining about not getting an ACC invite and how were all under rating uconn. and this kinda reaffirms why they are not in the acc

(08-31-2013 01:00 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

1. they didnt just lose to an FCS team but got dominated and pushed around the field.

2. we have heard so much from uconn fans complaining about not getting an ACC invite and how were all under rating uconn. and this kinda reaffirms why they are not in the acc

And BC against Nova? What about that?

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

For over a year, the ACC and FSU in particular, was on the receiving end of a coordinated online set of attacks designed to destabilize the ACC. Those attacks were from butt hurt West Virginia fans. If you have any connection at all with the powers that be inside ACC schools, you will know that they want nothing to do with UConn, and it stems primarily from their experience in 2004 with Connecticut AG Blumenthal. UConn's insistence that because they moved up to D1 football about 12-15 years ago and built a new stadium makes them deserve inclusion in a B-5 conference is laughable to anyone who lives in the South and is familiar with a half dozen great FCS teams who have expanded their stadiums, not to mention what ECU has done over not the last 15 years, but the last 40 years.

Perhaps ACC and soon to be ACC folks are tired of their complaining. That's my guess.

(08-31-2013 01:43 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

For over a year, the ACC and FSU in particular, was on the receiving end of a coordinated online set of attacks designed to destabilize the ACC. Those attacks were from butt hurt West Virginia fans. If you have any connection at all with the powers that be inside ACC schools, you will know that they want nothing to do with UConn, and it stems primarily from their experience in 2004 with Connecticut AG Blumenthal. UConn's insistence that because they moved up to D1 football about 12-15 years ago and built a new stadium makes them deserve inclusion in a B-5 conference is laughable to anyone who lives in the South and is familiar with a half dozen great FCS teams who have expanded their stadiums, not to mention what ECU has done over not the last 15 years, but the last 40 years.

Perhaps ACC and soon to be ACC folks are tired of their complaining. That's my guess.

Thats BS. UConn was going to get the invite until FSU and Clemson threw their weight around about wanting a FB school.

(08-31-2013 01:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 01:43 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

For over a year, the ACC and FSU in particular, was on the receiving end of a coordinated online set of attacks designed to destabilize the ACC. Those attacks were from butt hurt West Virginia fans. If you have any connection at all with the powers that be inside ACC schools, you will know that they want nothing to do with UConn, and it stems primarily from their experience in 2004 with Connecticut AG Blumenthal. UConn's insistence that because they moved up to D1 football about 12-15 years ago and built a new stadium makes them deserve inclusion in a B-5 conference is laughable to anyone who lives in the South and is familiar with a half dozen great FCS teams who have expanded their stadiums, not to mention what ECU has done over not the last 15 years, but the last 40 years.

Perhaps ACC and soon to be ACC folks are tired of their complaining. That's my guess.

Thats BS. UConn was going to get the invite until FSU and Clemson threw their weight around about wanting a FB school.

You are an uniformed fool young man.

FSU, Clemson, GT, NC State, VT, and BC did not want them, and I would know.

2-3, we are horrible.

And I am shaking my head at the NCSU fan running his mouth. NCSU is a nobody in every relevant sport...and always will be. UNC's little brother.

I hope UConn wins 5 games. That's the most we can win and still guarantee that Pasqualoni is gone. We need to be the first to select a coach in the off season, to get the pick of the litter.

We've gone from BCS to FCS in three years. Enough is enough.

(08-31-2013 01:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 01:43 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

For over a year, the ACC and FSU in particular, was on the receiving end of a coordinated online set of attacks designed to destabilize the ACC. Those attacks were from butt hurt West Virginia fans. If you have any connection at all with the powers that be inside ACC schools, you will know that they want nothing to do with UConn, and it stems primarily from their experience in 2004 with Connecticut AG Blumenthal. UConn's insistence that because they moved up to D1 football about 12-15 years ago and built a new stadium makes them deserve inclusion in a B-5 conference is laughable to anyone who lives in the South and is familiar with a half dozen great FCS teams who have expanded their stadiums, not to mention what ECU has done over not the last 15 years, but the last 40 years.

Perhaps ACC and soon to be ACC folks are tired of their complaining. That's my guess.

Thats BS. UConn was going to get the invite until FSU and Clemson threw their weight around about wanting a FB school.

they were never gonna get an invite. and fyi dont cite a game until its actually over dummy

(08-31-2013 03:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 01:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 01:43 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  im not saying i have a tremendous amount of love for UConn, but i dont get the glee shown by some, over their loss. (and the hope that they go winless)
i think they will go 5-7

For over a year, the ACC and FSU in particular, was on the receiving end of a coordinated online set of attacks designed to destabilize the ACC. Those attacks were from butt hurt West Virginia fans. If you have any connection at all with the powers that be inside ACC schools, you will know that they want nothing to do with UConn, and it stems primarily from their experience in 2004 with Connecticut AG Blumenthal. UConn's insistence that because they moved up to D1 football about 12-15 years ago and built a new stadium makes them deserve inclusion in a B-5 conference is laughable to anyone who lives in the South and is familiar with a half dozen great FCS teams who have expanded their stadiums, not to mention what ECU has done over not the last 15 years, but the last 40 years.

Perhaps ACC and soon to be ACC folks are tired of their complaining. That's my guess.

Thats BS. UConn was going to get the invite until FSU and Clemson threw their weight around about wanting a FB school.

they were never gonna get an invite. and fyi dont cite a game until its actually over dummy

Really? Then why did FSU and Clemson have to throw their weight around?

Also watch who you are calling dummy mr. fan of 8 teams.