(08-23-2013 02:27 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Credit to Mr. Dry Ribs (Ron Higgins), who typically spends all his time Dry Humping the SEC, for getting the quote:

Bowlsby said that the Big 12 was happy with its current 10-team makeup.

But when asked if the University of Memphis would ever be considered a candidate if the league expanded again, he said, "I'm sure Memphis would be on the list of candidates considered viable."

I think it moved.

(08-23-2013 02:27 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Credit to Mr. Dry Ribs (Ron Higgins), who typically spends all his time Dry Humping the SEC, for getting the quote:

Bowlsby said that the Big 12 was happy with its current 10-team makeup.

But when asked if the University of Memphis would ever be considered a candidate if the league expanded again, he said, "I'm sure Memphis would be on the list of candidates considered viable."

Sure i can see a Commissioner say no way we will even look at this team or that team. It is total political speak and some people are eating it up.

Lets just say if they had to take Two teams right now, and had to have them it would be STRONG CONSIDERATION between Memphis and Tulane as the two teams....Memphis and Tulane will be tough to beat for spots if they expand as long as Memphis and Tulane take care of their business.....They do that, and they almost become locks....Why Brad Martin and Leaders along with Bowen are working on their ends as hard as they have to.....Not gonna let that slip away.....If they had to go 14 Memphis/Tulane/ Cincy could be 3 of the 4.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....Now grab them Blue and Gray towels and pump them on all 3rd and 4th downs and show this defense support for their efforts and energy.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

(08-23-2013 10:27 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 02:27 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Credit to Mr. Dry Ribs (Ron Higgins), who typically spends all his time Dry Humping the SEC, for getting the quote:

Bowlsby said that the Big 12 was happy with its current 10-team makeup.

But when asked if the University of Memphis would ever be considered a candidate if the league expanded again, he said, "I'm sure Memphis would be on the list of candidates considered viable."

Sure i can see a Commissioner say no way we will even look at this team or that team. It is total political speak and some people are eating it up.

No, some of us are just optimistic and follow what's going on behind the scenes. I read your posts and you add absolutely nothing to this forum.

(08-23-2013 11:03 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Lets just say if they had to take Two teams right now, and had to have them it would be STRONG CONSIDERATION between Memphis and Tulane as the two teams....Memphis and Tulane will be tough to beat for spots if they expand as long as Memphis and Tulane take care of their business.....They do that, and they almost become locks....Why Brad Martin and Leaders along with Bowen are working on their ends as hard as they have to.....Not gonna let that slip away.....If they had to go 14 Memphis/Tulane/ Cincy could be 3 of the 4.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....Now grab them Blue and Gray towels and pump them on all 3rd and 4th downs and show this defense support for their efforts and energy.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

No, if they had to take someone now it would be BYU and Cincinnati. Tulane would not get a look due to poor facilities. Sure they are building an OCS but with 30,000 seats that's not enough to garner interest. Their other facilities are not Big XII material.

Memphis, on the other hand, does have Big XII type facilities. A state-of the art practice football facility that has been upgraded, a 59,000 seat stadium that has also been upgraded, a premier tailgating area with Tiger Lane to enhance the gameday experience, an NBA arena as our own home court with UM amenities included, the Finch Center, a soon-to-be new men's & women's basketball facility and a soon-to-be indoor practice facility for football.

Those above are why the Big XII are changing their tune towards Memphis. Cincinnati's staff saw it first hand while on tour of the facilities and got us invited to the then-Big East.

(08-23-2013 09:55 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 05:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  There's just no way to predict what will happen at this point. We're a long way from being where we've been before, but you never know.

Well said. You just never know. Anything can happen. It will or in won't. Never say never. So close, but so far. Yes. No. Maybe. Maybe not.

Hey, I get bashed when I say something definite, and I get bashed when I say something indefinite.

Let me rephrase. We came damn close to getting into the B12 once, and into the Big East once, before we finally did, 18-20 months later.

Right now, we're swimming like hell to get into the B12, but until current circumstances change dramatically, we're a long shot, at best.

That better?

(08-23-2013 11:41 PM)IofDaTiger Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 11:03 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Lets just say if they had to take Two teams right now, and had to have them it would be STRONG CONSIDERATION between Memphis and Tulane as the two teams....Memphis and Tulane will be tough to beat for spots if they expand as long as Memphis and Tulane take care of their business.....They do that, and they almost become locks....Why Brad Martin and Leaders along with Bowen are working on their ends as hard as they have to.....Not gonna let that slip away.....If they had to go 14 Memphis/Tulane/ Cincy could be 3 of the 4.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....Now grab them Blue and Gray towels and pump them on all 3rd and 4th downs and show this defense support for their efforts and energy.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

No, if they had to take someone now it would be BYU and Cincinnati. Tulane would not get a look due to poor facilities. Sure they are building an OCS but with 30,000 seats that's not enough to garner interest. Their other facilities are not Big XII material.

Memphis, on the other hand, does have Big XII type facilities. A state-of the art practice football facility that has been upgraded, a 59,000 seat stadium that has also been upgraded, a premier tailgating area with Tiger Lane to enhance the gameday experience, an NBA arena as our own home court with UM amenities included, the Finch Center, a soon-to-be new men's & women's basketball facility and a soon-to-be indoor practice facility for football.

Those above are why the Big XII are changing their tune towards Memphis. Cincinnati's staff saw it first hand while on tour of the facilities and got us invited to the then-Big East.

In years past other Big XII teams have been very outspoken about the Memphis academic status. Especially UT. Our position in that area has not really improved as much as it should. BYU would most likely be the number 1 option. Academically think Tulane would be an option before us. Then the Big XII could decide to continue their eastward expansion and go with the U of Cincinnati. After losing aTm they may consider either Rice or SMU. That would bring them up to at least 14 teams right there.

If you were to search the forum you will find i was in favor of trying to get into Big XII while others were in love with the Big East. But given other options i see we are down on the list of teams that the Big XII may be looking at. Feel it will have to go to 14-16 teams for us to have realistic shot. I think we are in the same situation today as we were with the Big East during the first expansion in which Louisville got the invite. We were technically on the list but never really under consideration and the first team eliminated.

Just remember the long drawn out argument as to how we were in a position to get invited before and we only get a invite after everyone else had disappeared and there were no other options available. Do not want to go through that same unrealistic crap again.

We are a candidate for the Big XII just like I am a potential Powerball winner every time I buy a ticket. It could happen, but it is not likely and I should not hold my breath until it does.

(08-24-2013 05:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 11:41 PM)IofDaTiger Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 11:03 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Lets just say if they had to take Two teams right now, and had to have them it would be STRONG CONSIDERATION between Memphis and Tulane as the two teams....Memphis and Tulane will be tough to beat for spots if they expand as long as Memphis and Tulane take care of their business.....They do that, and they almost become locks....Why Brad Martin and Leaders along with Bowen are working on their ends as hard as they have to.....Not gonna let that slip away.....If they had to go 14 Memphis/Tulane/ Cincy could be 3 of the 4.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....Now grab them Blue and Gray towels and pump them on all 3rd and 4th downs and show this defense support for their efforts and energy.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

No, if they had to take someone now it would be BYU and Cincinnati. Tulane would not get a look due to poor facilities. Sure they are building an OCS but with 30,000 seats that's not enough to garner interest. Their other facilities are not Big XII material.

Memphis, on the other hand, does have Big XII type facilities. A state-of the art practice football facility that has been upgraded, a 59,000 seat stadium that has also been upgraded, a premier tailgating area with Tiger Lane to enhance the gameday experience, an NBA arena as our own home court with UM amenities included, the Finch Center, a soon-to-be new men's & women's basketball facility and a soon-to-be indoor practice facility for football.

Those above are why the Big XII are changing their tune towards Memphis. Cincinnati's staff saw it first hand while on tour of the facilities and got us invited to the then-Big East.

In years past other Big XII teams have been very outspoken about the Memphis academic status. Especially UT. Our position in that area has not really improved as much as it should. BYU would most likely be the number 1 option. Academically think Tulane would be an option before us. Then the Big XII could decide to continue their eastward expansion and go with the U of Cincinnati. After losing aTm they may consider either Rice or SMU. That would bring them up to at least 14 teams right there.

If you were to search the forum you will find i was in favor of trying to get into Big XII while others were in love with the Big East. But given other options i see we are down on the list of teams that the Big XII may be looking at. Feel it will have to go to 14-16 teams for us to have realistic shot. I think we are in the same situation today as we were with the Big East during the first expansion in which Louisville got the invite. We were technically on the list but never really under consideration and the first team eliminated.

Just remember the long drawn out argument as to how we were in a position to get invited before and we only get a invite after everyone else had disappeared and there were no other options available. Do not want to go through that same unrealistic crap again.

That's a more realistic, although other-school centric viewpoint.

Yes academics has hurt us in the past. But we are making huge gains in targeted areas. Three years in a row in the top 5% for graduation rates in athletics is getting attention. A growing number of national and internationally rank programs and professors. Major leaps in research grants, faculty Patton applications, honor students, doctoral degrees granted, partnerships with business and other universities, faculty publications, alumni membership numbers, facility upgrades for athletics and academics are all calculated moves to improve our standing among universities.

Perception and reputation changes, especially in the world of academia, comes slow and hard-fought.

As for the BX??, two issues out of our control will impact our chances.
1. Expansion up to at most 16 schools
2. Replacement schools when raided

In some ways the BX?? And U of M have similar uncertain futures. The right moves and opportunities could raise the level of notoriety among peers and provide significant financial windfalls for years to come. The cards falling in a different direction can be catastrophic.

That's why the timing for announcing the Martin plan is so important. We can't affor to not be ready on every front. Martin is the perfect person to rally the deep pocket crowd because he is one.

It is important that we all do our part to be a part of this movement. Everyone makes a difference. Mass positivity can move mountains. Or we can continue to promote an attitude of we are not good enough as a self-fulfilling prophesy.

In the words of Edward Everett Hale,
"I am only one, but I am one.
I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should.
And what i should do, by the grace of God, I will do."

That's how you get things done.

Another is unity in Numbers and the creation of more spirit and a way to show both of those, is to Bring Blue and Gray towels to every home game and on 3rd and 4th downs pump them for our defense and ROAR.....Showing our defense support for their efforts and energy....And we also do this at the BB games making it Our thing.....So grab them Blue and Gray towels and pump them on every 3rd and 4th down starting with Duke.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....And if the Big 12 did Expand, when or if they do they are probably def going to 14 or maybe 16......They will not stop at just 12, def be like 14 for sure......The World Is Ours Memphis.....

"geographically you bet it makes sense"

Big XII moves in here then the SEC moves out. If I'm the Big XII, I jump at the opportunity to take Memphis. If Slive is half as smart as he is reported to be, he jumps in and takes Memphis first to protect his market. Whoever has the Tigers, gets the Memphis market.

I choose to take the Commissioner at his word. We are a viable candidate. We need to do all we can to improve our program and thus a logical choice when the expansion process renews.

I'd rather have taken Memphis and Louisville than TCU and WVU.

Memphis would be a great fit.

People on the pay boards that are supposed to be in the know say BYU is out. They are too much trouble. Take that for what it's worth. Clemson and FSU are on the wish list but I don't hear any whispers about that anymore.

IMO, our future with the Big XII (if any) is intertwined with the future of Texas with the Big XII. My gut instinct tells me that Texas will not stand idle as Tx AM reaps fame, money, and exposure in the SEC.

I do not know what the Longhorns will do, but they will do something.

(08-23-2013 07:20 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  So does this mean we like the Liberty Bowl again?

Speaking only for myself, I will "like" (and support) them again when they support a conference that we belong to (and not before). At this point in time, of course, they don't.

(08-24-2013 05:49 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  .........given other options i see we are down on the list of teams that the Big XII may be looking at. Feel it will have to go to 14-16 teams for us to have realistic shot.........

If true it is largely due to poor perceptions. Get average football attendance above 45,000 and win a New Year's bowl game and that will quickly (and dramatically) improve. It's doable. We have a big-time coaching staff, a competent and committed AD and, from what we hear, enough financial support.

We need a medical school

(08-24-2013 06:29 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  We are a candidate for the Big XII just like I am a potential Powerball winner every time I buy a ticket. It could happen, but it is not likely and I should not hold my breath until it does.

I have never bought a PowerBall ticket (and never will), but as I told you two years ago during breakfast at an IHOP, I am pretty sure that Memphis will be in the Big 12 sooner or later. That will be a dream come true, but like you, there is no holding of breath. I may never live to see it, and playing in the AAC is going to be very enjoyable and affords UofM great opportunities for glory.

(08-24-2013 06:38 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  In the words of Edward Everett Hale,
"I am only one, but I am one.
I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should.
And what i should do, by the grace of God, I will do."

Exactly!!!

(08-24-2013 09:24 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  We need a medical school

We got one. It's got the wrong damn name on it