I'm going to miss those automatic wins from UNT.

UNT played football?

(08-23-2013 02:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  UNT played football?

I don't remember, but they made a few runs in the NCAA baseball regionals.

(08-23-2013 11:10 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 10:58 AM)MG61 Wrote:  



UNT-Dallas Panthers

Bored?

That's exactly what SBC posters used to say when GAST was mentioned as a possibility.

(08-23-2013 02:52 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 02:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  UNT played football?

I don't remember, but they made a few runs in the NCAA baseball regionals.

Thought North Texas hadn't played baseball for a long time. Seriously.

Look, let the guy enjoy this. If you were a NT fan, what source of enjoyment could you get from being a fan? They were invited to CUSA. That is it. The football is God awfully atrocious.

(08-23-2013 11:21 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 11:18 AM)slycat Wrote:  If UNT can't sell out their new stadium, how can UNT-D do any better?

You mean the next C-USA member? They are in a huge media market. That's obviously all C-USA cares about.

says the conference that took ga st...

How about the university of Jacksonville? Or Tennessee-Chattanooga?

(08-23-2013 12:32 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 10:58 AM)MG61 Wrote:  



UNT-Dallas Panthers

It's a commuter school!

So it Georgia State...

GSU is a commuter school with 61% of first-year students living on-campus and 17% of all undergraduates living on campus

I suggest Liberty University and the University of Phoenix. Two great schools that would compliment the Sunbelt members.

(12-31-2013 09:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I suggest Liberty University and the University of Phoenix. Two great schools that would compliment the Sunbelt members.

Could only see C-USA as a possibility for them.

How about Alabama State, Kentucky State, Tennessee State or Virginia State? It's not like the Sun Belt was in those states before. UAB, Middle Tennessee, VCU, WKU came from those markets.

(01-07-2014 02:49 AM)David Krysakowski Wrote:  How about Alabama State, Kentucky State, Tennessee State or Virginia State? It's not like the Sun Belt was in those states before. UAB, Middle Tennessee, VCU, WKU came from those markets.

You just throwing out names now or what?

(01-07-2014 10:21 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 02:49 AM)David Krysakowski Wrote:  How about Alabama State, Kentucky State, Tennessee State or Virginia State? It's not like the Sun Belt was in those states before. UAB, Middle Tennessee, VCU, WKU came from those markets.

You just throwing out names now or what?

I think he is trying to get us to look at HBCUs. I'm not opposed to that, and there is history with that. Florida A&M was slated to join the Sun Belt and move up to FBS a decade or so ago. They decided not to jump at the last minute, forcing us to scramble for a replacement team.

I think Alabama State is the only relevant HBCU option at this point, but that group seems more interested in staying together than trying to force their way into FBS.

(01-07-2014 05:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I think he is trying to get us to look at HBCUs. I'm not opposed to that, and there is history with that. Florida A&M was slated to join the Sun Belt and move up to FBS a decade or so ago. They decided not to jump at the last minute, forcing us to scramble for a replacement team.

I was always under the impression that HBCU = Historically Budget Challenged Universities.

It was that way at least in Texas. Always struggled to fund sports properly. Is that not the case elsewhere?

(01-07-2014 10:13 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 05:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I think he is trying to get us to look at HBCUs. I'm not opposed to that, and there is history with that. Florida A&M was slated to join the Sun Belt and move up to FBS a decade or so ago. They decided not to jump at the last minute, forcing us to scramble for a replacement team.

I was always under the impression that HBCU = Historically Budget Challenged Universities.

It was that way at least in Texas. Always struggled to fund sports properly. Is that not the case elsewhere?

FAMU decided to not jump due to budgetary constraints. Also, FAMU is located in the same city as Florida State, Tallahassee.

Regarding the funding of HBCU's, one must look at the history of the genesis of these institutions. They can be divided into two groups. The first were very thinly capitalized Private schools, many of which struggle tremendously. I wont discuss them in this context as few of them play FCS football (Bethune-Cookman, Hampton, and Howard are the only ones) and none play FBS football.

For the public HBCUs, the issue is that many of them were funded, and in some cases, founded, to maintain the fiction of separate but equal in education. The reality was that these separate schools were never funded equally. Another issue impacting HBCU's is the legacy of racism and its impact on the earning (and therefore donating) power of its' alumni. Until recently, African Americans were basically barred either through overt or de facto discrimination from earning high incomes, especially in the South, where most of these schools are located (only three public HBCU's are located outside the historically slave holding states).

It would have been very interesting to see if FAMU could have made a run of it at FBS. And what the impact of FAMU's jump to FBS would have had on the SWAC and the MEAC.

The short answer is, yes most HBCU's have funding issues. A bit off topic, but I gave you the long answer.

Thought had read that Florida A&M discovered huge financial problems that had been kept secret by their then administration.
Apologies if incorrect, but believe that was the case.