(08-22-2013 01:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:02 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Treat it as a hate crime until proved otherwise like would be done in most cases.

Hard to treat it as a hate crime when the driver was white.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Hard to to treat it as a hate crime when Zimmerman was half Hispanic Indian

I'm willing to bet that it'll never be declared a hate crime.. Wasn't it Eric Holder who stated only whites can be prosecuted for a hate crime? I could be wrong.

You best believe that come trial time these boys will be polished and cleaned up to look like choir boys.

Nevermind one acted like it was a joke when he was arrested.

Even though they're being tried as adults, I doubt they'll see a real jail.

Oh they're going down dude. In Oklahoma? Are you kidding. They are going to down hard.

Of course the media will cover up the fact that this was a hate crime. Those tweets will never become mainstream and most Rubes watching mainstream news will never know about them. For years on end we will have a larger class of fools calling this an act of boredom. Then the gun control people will come back out of the woodwork. The white liberals will figure out a way to blame this all on some kind of inequality and treat the killers as victims.

All while this is a true racial hate crime and the Zimmerman case never was.

If anyone cannot understand this, they will never understand the disgust that is brewing in America as we type.

Don't get me wrong, these kids need to serve some time in prison, but I'm scared some loop hole somewhere is going to prevent it.

You libs ok with this,

In June 2009, during his testimony before a Senate panel considering new hate crimes legislation, Attorney General Eric Holder clearly suggested that any new laws passed would not apply to white victims. When Sen. Jeff Sessions pressed Holder into saying exactly who would be protected under such laws, Holder gave his opinion that only those who have been subjected to “the unfortunate history of our nation,” should receive the added protection.
http://www.examiner.com/article/attorney...aw-equally

(08-22-2013 01:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Hard to treat it as a hate crime when the driver was white.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Hard to to treat it as a hate crime when Zimmerman was half Hispanic Indian

I'm willing to bet that it'll never be declared a hate crime.. Wasn't it Eric Holder who stated only whites can be prosecuted for a hate crime? I could be wrong.

You best believe that come trial time these boys will be polished and cleaned up to look like choir boys.

Nevermind one acted like it was a joke when he was arrested.

Even though they're being tried as adults, I doubt they'll see a real jail.

Oh they're going down dude. In Oklahoma? Are you kidding. They are going to down hard.

Of course the media will cover up the fact that this was a hate crime. Those tweets will never become mainstream and most Rubes watching mainstream news will never know about them. For years on end we will have a larger class of fools calling this an act of boredom. Then the gun control people will come back out of the woodwork. The white liberals will figure out a way to blame this all on some kind of inequality and treat the killers as victims.

All while this is a true racial hate crime and the Zimmerman case never was.

If anyone cannot understand this, they will never understand the disgust that is brewing in America as we type.

Don't get me wrong, these kids need to serve some time in prison, but I'm scared some loop hole somewhere is going to prevent it.

I wouldn't worry dude. They are done. They would never live outside of prison. They may not even be able to stay alive on the inside. Shooting someone in the back is looked upon as an act of cowardice on the inside as much as on the outside.

...and if they have any lingering friends or gang connections in Duncan, they will be severely dealt with. That is a small town full of good ole boys.

(08-22-2013 12:44 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I've said this twice; I won't bore everyone again after this.

There was a white kid driving the car, and they agreed to shoot the first person they saw. The victim was the first person they saw, so they shot him. They didn't say they were going to shoot the first white person they saw.

As of now, I see no evidence that this was a racial crime. I think these guys were just losers with low IQ's, no conscience, and no redeeming value.

And right now it's coming out they were in a gang. This may have just been a gang initiation.

Zimmerman didn't say he was going to shoot the first black person he saw, nor did he have white supremecy or mexican supremecy flags/posts about hating blacks, yet the entire nation, including the president, stood up and recognized that case as something racial...

I know exactly what you're saying, but my point is that you can't just overlook someone who clearly hates another race and then kills them. White guy kills a gay, it's a hate crime. White guy kills a black, it's a hate crime... Do you see where I'm going with this?

(08-22-2013 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:02 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Treat it as a hate crime until proved otherwise like would be done in most cases.

Hard to treat it as a hate crime when the driver was white.

You're being sarcastic, right?

Maybe we should all follow Jesse's lead and "frown upon it."

(08-22-2013 01:26 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  You libs ok with this,

In June 2009, during his testimony before a Senate panel considering new hate crimes legislation, Attorney General Eric Holder clearly suggested that any new laws passed would not apply to white victims. When Sen. Jeff Sessions pressed Holder into saying exactly who would be protected under such laws, Holder gave his opinion that only those who have been subjected to “the unfortunate history of our nation,” should receive the added protection.
http://www.examiner.com/article/attorney...aw-equally

He should have been disqualified for any government office after that remark, though I'm sure spooks and guilty woods alike praised him for it.

(08-22-2013 09:19 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Yet, little attention being paid to this hate crime by the black community, especially Jesse, Al and Obama. A rodeo clown with a mask meanwhile gets tons of coverage.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/tee...as-racist/

How do you know? We spent a good while talking about it at my parents house. As far as the black community, there isn't one. Jesse, Al, and Obama don't represent me because I don't even know them.

(08-22-2013 01:17 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:02 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Treat it as a hate crime until proved otherwise like would be done in most cases.

Hard to treat it as a hate crime when the driver was white.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Hard to to treat it as a hate crime when Zimmerman was half Hispanic Indian

I'm willing to bet that it'll never be declared a hate crime.. Wasn't it Eric Holder who stated only whites can be prosecuted for a hate crime? I could be wrong.

You best believe that come trial time these boys will be polished and cleaned up to look like choir boys.

Nevermind one acted like it was a joke when he was arrested.

Even though they're being tried as adults, I doubt they'll see a real jail.

WitHolder said only white people cold be charged with voter intimidation.

Sorry fool...he never said anything of the sort. I assume you're referring to this, which was related to a hate crimes bill, not voter intimidation.

(08-22-2013 01:53 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:19 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Yet, little attention being paid to this hate crime by the black community, especially Jesse, Al and Obama. A rodeo clown with a mask meanwhile gets tons of coverage.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/tee...as-racist/

How do you know? We spent a good while talking about it at my parents house. As far as the black community, there isn't one. Jesse, Al, and Obama don't represent me because I don't even know them.

You'll have to take that up with them hoss, they claim to speak for every black man and woman out there...

Allen West said it best. A gangsta culture that glorifies violence is one of the causes. That and no father around to teach how to be a man.

Nomad, I appreciate your point. Us white people seem to think there is some mythical one sized fits all 'black community' when the reality is the same as for whites. There are lots of differing views, values and people that make up white America, just as black America. I believe that the problem crops up when many of us paint impoverished, inner city black culture as mainstream.

I personally think these kids should go down. Could they give at least one hate crime status along with 1st degree murder, just in case the hate crime becomes hard to prosecute?

(08-22-2013 02:00 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:53 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:19 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Yet, little attention being paid to this hate crime by the black community, especially Jesse, Al and Obama. A rodeo clown with a mask meanwhile gets tons of coverage.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/tee...as-racist/

How do you know? We spent a good while talking about it at my parents house. As far as the black community, there isn't one. Jesse, Al, and Obama don't represent me because I don't even know them.

You'll have to take that up with them hoss, they claim to speak for every black man and woman out there...

They claim it but I blame every media outlet for accepting it.

(08-22-2013 02:00 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Allen West said it best. A gangsta culture that glorifies violence is one of the causes. That and no father around to teach how to be a man.

This Allen West? An OG himself?

U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics

(08-22-2013 02:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I personally think these kids should go down. Could they give at least one hate crime status along with 1st degree murder, just in case the hate crime becomes hard to prosecute?

who doesn't?

(08-22-2013 02:08 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I personally think these kids should go down. Could they give at least one hate crime status along with 1st degree murder, just in case the hate crime becomes hard to prosecute?

who doesn't?

I assume he means they get the death penalty. Not everyone, including me, supports the death penalty. Especially for minors.

(08-22-2013 02:00 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Allen West said it best. A gangsta culture that glorifies violence is one of the causes. That and no father around to teach how to be a man.

Nomad, I appreciate your point. Us white people seem to think there is some mythical one sized fits all 'black community' when the reality is the same as for whites. There are lots of differing views, values and people that make up white America, just as black America. I believe that the problem crops up when many of us paint impoverished, inner city black culture as mainstream.

It's even worse that the ebonic form of gangster is a widely recognized term to define these types of disturbed heathens.

(08-22-2013 02:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:08 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I personally think these kids should go down. Could they give at least one hate crime status along with 1st degree murder, just in case the hate crime becomes hard to prosecute?

who doesn't?

I assume he means they get the death penalty. Not everyone, including me, supports the death penalty. Especially for minors.

I don't think they should get the death penalty, but they shouldn't see life outside of four walls ever again.

(08-22-2013 02:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:08 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I personally think these kids should go down. Could they give at least one hate crime status along with 1st degree murder, just in case the hate crime becomes hard to prosecute?

who doesn't?

I assume he means they get the death penalty. Not everyone, including me, supports the death penalty. Especially for minors.

You won't support the death of a 15 y/o cold blooded killer, but you'll support the slaughter of an innocent unborn child. Typical.

(08-22-2013 02:11 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:00 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Allen West said it best. A gangsta culture that glorifies violence is one of the causes. That and no father around to teach how to be a man.

Nomad, I appreciate your point. Us white people seem to think there is some mythical one sized fits all 'black community' when the reality is the same as for whites. There are lots of differing views, values and people that make up white America, just as black America. I believe that the problem crops up when many of us paint impoverished, inner city black culture as mainstream.

It's even worse that the ebonic form of gangster is a widely recognized term to define these types of disturbed heathens.

Ebonic form of gangster?