(12-25-2015 11:21 PM)JtechD Wrote:  To be fair, you may find out just how much residual damage tuberville has done after he's left. Kliff's at least held serve, posting a slightly better conference record than PBT (pine box tommy) while getting on the job training as a head coach, but he didn't have a lot to work with after the best parts of tuberville's highly ranked recruiting classes either flamed out or were horrifically under-developed by PBT's ever changing cast of assistant coaches. At Tech, tuberville taught players who had previously won a lot at the P5 level how to lose (Tech won 65% of its conference games during the 5 years BEFORE tuberville, but pretty much turned that upside down by going 9-17 during his 3 years in Lubbock) . Some never got over that, since losing is the easiest thing in the world to do once it becomes a habit. It only took 3 years of tuberville to do 6 years worth of damage. Hope that's not the case with you boys (and I mean that sincerely), but don't surprised if the stench of tuberville lingers for a while.

Truth hurts when it hits you square in the jaw. Sure makes me feel all giddy about the future...

Just don't hire Coach McCool or they will screw you twice

(12-25-2015 09:06 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 02:37 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Look at the comments. Texas Tech fans are convinced we are doing them a favor...lol

Yeah, we were right.

Not here to rub salt in the wound, especially since we're all pretty much brothers, now. You've been through what we've been through. We've all been tubervilled.

Find his pine box and send him along to his next naive victim. No matter the cost, it's worth it, imho.

I think you are right. In the long term, it will be more expensive to keep him.

(12-25-2015 11:21 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:06 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 02:37 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Look at the comments. Texas Tech fans are convinced we are doing them a favor...lol

Yeah, we were right.

Not here to rub salt in the wound, especially since we're all pretty much brothers, now. You've been through what we've been through. We've all been tubervilled.

Find his pine box and send him along to his next naive victim. No matter the cost, it's worth it, imho.

Yep, but to be fair, you've been Tubervilled twice, just the new one looks better on magazine covers

To be fair, you may find out just how much residual damage tuberville has done after he's left. Kliff's at least held serve, posting a slightly better conference record than PBT (pine box tommy) while getting on the job training as a head coach, but he didn't have a lot to work with after the best parts of tuberville's highly ranked recruiting classes either flamed out or were horrifically under-developed by PBT's ever changing cast of assistant coaches. At Tech, tuberville taught players who had previously won a lot at the P5 level how to lose (Tech won 65% of its conference games during the 5 years BEFORE tuberville, but pretty much turned that upside down by going 9-17 during his 3 years in Lubbock) . Some never got over that, since losing is the easiest thing in the world to do once it becomes a habit. It only took 3 years of tuberville to do 6 years worth of damage. Hope that's not the case with you boys (and I mean that sincerely), but don't surprised if the stench of tuberville lingers for a while.

I agree, you can definitely tell that Tech seem to have been getting over it recently. I've always hoped to get in touch with a TTU fan who is civilized in discussion, this is nice . The one question I've wanted to ask, due in large part to how our staff has handled the running backs on our roster, is how you all felt about the rotating door at QB? I feel like that would get mighty friggin frustrating to deal with as a fan.

(12-26-2015 10:49 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 11:21 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:06 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(08-19-2013 02:37 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Look at the comments. Texas Tech fans are convinced we are doing them a favor...lol

Yeah, we were right.

Not here to rub salt in the wound, especially since we're all pretty much brothers, now. You've been through what we've been through. We've all been tubervilled.

Find his pine box and send him along to his next naive victim. No matter the cost, it's worth it, imho.

Yep, but to be fair, you've been Tubervilled twice, just the new one looks better on magazine covers

To be fair, you may find out just how much residual damage tuberville has done after he's left. Kliff's at least held serve, posting a slightly better conference record than PBT (pine box tommy) while getting on the job training as a head coach, but he didn't have a lot to work with after the best parts of tuberville's highly ranked recruiting classes either flamed out or were horrifically under-developed by PBT's ever changing cast of assistant coaches. At Tech, tuberville taught players who had previously won a lot at the P5 level how to lose (Tech won 65% of its conference games during the 5 years BEFORE tuberville, but pretty much turned that upside down by going 9-17 during his 3 years in Lubbock) . Some never got over that, since losing is the easiest thing in the world to do once it becomes a habit. It only took 3 years of tuberville to do 6 years worth of damage. Hope that's not the case with you boys (and I mean that sincerely), but don't surprised if the stench of tuberville lingers for a while.

I agree, you can definitely tell that Tech seem to have been getting over it recently. I've always hoped to get in touch with a TTU fan who is civilized in discussion, this is nice . The one question I've wanted to ask, due in large part to how our staff has handled the running backs on our roster, is how you all felt about the rotating door at QB? I feel like that would get mighty friggin frustrating to deal with as a fan.

Can't really speak to the QB situation as he pretty much stuck with the starter named by his OC while at Tech. Now we had lots of issues with the OC, too, but that's another thread for another day. Our biggest issues with PBT were the ever-changing DCs AND schemes (3 different DCs in 3 years, and 3 different base schemes), which all went to illustrate that tuberville doesn't really coach at all and doesn't have a scheme. I mean, this supposed "defensive guru" allows 3 different coordinators to walk in the door and implement 3 different schemes? No coach who actually has a scheme of his own would ever allow that. He would, instead, find a DC to implement HIS scheme, assuming he doesn't want to serve as his own coordinator. Bottom line, this incredible goofball isn't a coach at all. He's a glorified recruiting coordinator, and not a very good one at that, because....

PBTs classes "ranked" pretty well while at Tech, but he had no ability to assess "need." As a result, one year we had the top ranked running back class in the nation, but to say that ran counter to "need" is the grossest of understatements since we were a pass first (and last) offense. I mean, WTF????

I could go on for a while, but I won't burden you with a bunch of venting. Besides, y'all prolly have the same complaints as us, so I'd just be stealing your thunder by identifying more of his many, many, MANY deficiencies.

(08-19-2013 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Ok... which one of you guys want to fess up for this one

That's pretty old.

All I remember is that it was not good, though I give the guy props for trying.

Get over it and grow up

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(12-26-2015 11:13 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Get over it and grow up

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The filmmaker reveals himself ^^^^

I watched about 15 seconds of that douche fest

(12-26-2015 09:42 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:49 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 11:21 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:06 PM)JtechD Wrote:  Yeah, we were right.

Not here to rub salt in the wound, especially since we're all pretty much brothers, now. You've been through what we've been through. We've all been tubervilled.

Find his pine box and send him along to his next naive victim. No matter the cost, it's worth it, imho.

Yep, but to be fair, you've been Tubervilled twice, just the new one looks better on magazine covers

To be fair, you may find out just how much residual damage tuberville has done after he's left. Kliff's at least held serve, posting a slightly better conference record than PBT (pine box tommy) while getting on the job training as a head coach, but he didn't have a lot to work with after the best parts of tuberville's highly ranked recruiting classes either flamed out or were horrifically under-developed by PBT's ever changing cast of assistant coaches. At Tech, tuberville taught players who had previously won a lot at the P5 level how to lose (Tech won 65% of its conference games during the 5 years BEFORE tuberville, but pretty much turned that upside down by going 9-17 during his 3 years in Lubbock) . Some never got over that, since losing is the easiest thing in the world to do once it becomes a habit. It only took 3 years of tuberville to do 6 years worth of damage. Hope that's not the case with you boys (and I mean that sincerely), but don't surprised if the stench of tuberville lingers for a while.

I agree, you can definitely tell that Tech seem to have been getting over it recently. I've always hoped to get in touch with a TTU fan who is civilized in discussion, this is nice . The one question I've wanted to ask, due in large part to how our staff has handled the running backs on our roster, is how you all felt about the rotating door at QB? I feel like that would get mighty friggin frustrating to deal with as a fan.

Can't really speak to the QB situation as he pretty much stuck with the starter named by his OC while at Tech. Now we had lots of issues with the OC, too, but that's another thread for another day. Our biggest issues with PBT were the ever-changing DCs AND schemes (3 different DCs in 3 years, and 3 different base schemes), which all went to illustrate that tuberville doesn't really coach at all and doesn't have a scheme. I mean, this supposed "defensive guru" allows 3 different coordinators to walk in the door and implement 3 different schemes? No coach who actually has a scheme of his own would ever allow that. He would, instead, find a DC to implement HIS scheme, assuming he doesn't want to serve as his own coordinator. Bottom line, this incredible goofball isn't a coach at all. He's a glorified recruiting coordinator, and not a very good one at that, because....

PBTs classes "ranked" pretty well while at Tech, but he had no ability to assess "need." As a result, one year we had the top ranked running back class in the nation, but to say that ran counter to "need" is the grossest of understatements since we were a pass first (and last) offense. I mean, WTF????

I could go on for a while, but I won't burden you with a bunch of venting. Besides, y'all prolly have the same complaints as us, so I'd just be stealing your thunder by identifying more of his many, many, MANY deficiencies.

This is consistent with what i have seen. Not doing his due diligence in game preparation. The runningback rotation comes to mind. I thought it was disrespect toward g5 ststus but it sounds he checked out on coaching in his last job. Thanks babcock.

Oh Cinci fans you said Beetlejuice three times

(12-27-2015 09:34 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 09:42 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:49 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 11:21 PM)JtechD Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 09:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Yep, but to be fair, you've been Tubervilled twice, just the new one looks better on magazine covers

To be fair, you may find out just how much residual damage tuberville has done after he's left. Kliff's at least held serve, posting a slightly better conference record than PBT (pine box tommy) while getting on the job training as a head coach, but he didn't have a lot to work with after the best parts of tuberville's highly ranked recruiting classes either flamed out or were horrifically under-developed by PBT's ever changing cast of assistant coaches. At Tech, tuberville taught players who had previously won a lot at the P5 level how to lose (Tech won 65% of its conference games during the 5 years BEFORE tuberville, but pretty much turned that upside down by going 9-17 during his 3 years in Lubbock) . Some never got over that, since losing is the easiest thing in the world to do once it becomes a habit. It only took 3 years of tuberville to do 6 years worth of damage. Hope that's not the case with you boys (and I mean that sincerely), but don't surprised if the stench of tuberville lingers for a while.

I agree, you can definitely tell that Tech seem to have been getting over it recently. I've always hoped to get in touch with a TTU fan who is civilized in discussion, this is nice . The one question I've wanted to ask, due in large part to how our staff has handled the running backs on our roster, is how you all felt about the rotating door at QB? I feel like that would get mighty friggin frustrating to deal with as a fan.

Can't really speak to the QB situation as he pretty much stuck with the starter named by his OC while at Tech. Now we had lots of issues with the OC, too, but that's another thread for another day. Our biggest issues with PBT were the ever-changing DCs AND schemes (3 different DCs in 3 years, and 3 different base schemes), which all went to illustrate that tuberville doesn't really coach at all and doesn't have a scheme. I mean, this supposed "defensive guru" allows 3 different coordinators to walk in the door and implement 3 different schemes? No coach who actually has a scheme of his own would ever allow that. He would, instead, find a DC to implement HIS scheme, assuming he doesn't want to serve as his own coordinator. Bottom line, this incredible goofball isn't a coach at all. He's a glorified recruiting coordinator, and not a very good one at that, because....

PBTs classes "ranked" pretty well while at Tech, but he had no ability to assess "need." As a result, one year we had the top ranked running back class in the nation, but to say that ran counter to "need" is the grossest of understatements since we were a pass first (and last) offense. I mean, WTF????

I could go on for a while, but I won't burden you with a bunch of venting. Besides, y'all prolly have the same complaints as us, so I'd just be stealing your thunder by identifying more of his many, many, MANY deficiencies.

This is consistent with what i have seen. Not doing his due diligence in game preparation. The runningback rotation comes to mind. I thought it was disrespect toward g5 ststus but it sounds he checked out on coaching in his last job. Thanks babcock.

Fact of the matter is he was never any better than his coordinators, so it's not a matter of him recently "checking out." Take away the seasons in which he had Chizik and Muschamp as his DCs (and both are excellent coordinators, even if they do suck as HCs), and his career P5 conference record is below .500. I didn't realize that when we hired him, and I bet y'all didn't, either. Also, compare his record with his predecessors at Auburn and Tech. He couldn't match 'em, especially at Tech. In fact, he didn't even improve on his predecessor at Ole Miss's conference record.

In the end, this guy is a recruiting coordinator who has a grand total of TWO years experience as a coordinator (with ready made defenses waiting on him in those two years -- even he couldn't screw up those D's at A&M and Miami in the short time he was a coordinator at those schools). When Jimmy Johnson left Miami for the pros, he took almost his entire college staff with him, but he left tuberville behind. There's a reason for that -- you gotta actually be able to coach to earn your keep in the pros. No room for a recruiter on the staff at that level.