I'm an NIU homer and I'm not saying we beat Toledo by 30 points when we play them. It's just idiotic.

(08-16-2013 05:25 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  I'm an NIU homer and I'm not saying we beat Toledo by 30 points when we play them. It's just idiotic.

I feel his homerism is being accentuated by the tough times Iowa is going through. It is like a self-defense mechanism.

(08-16-2013 05:23 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 03:51 PM)7 Wrote:  The "Iowa should dominate in the trenches" comments have me bufuddled. Didn't NIU have like 5-6 sacks in the game last year?

Yes, we had 6 sacks. 2 by Windsor. BrewHawk seems like a nice guy and all, but I have a hard time thinking he knows ANYTHING about football or NIU if he thinks the Hawkeyes with a brand new QB win by a margin of 41-17. I feel like Iowa is resting on their laurels of being BigTen, it's just stupid IMO. No facts or knowledge backing up any of their statements.

Those comments are from bunch of different peeps on the Iowa boards, NOT brewhawk...

(08-16-2013 05:27 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 05:23 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 03:51 PM)7 Wrote:  The "Iowa should dominate in the trenches" comments have me bufuddled. Didn't NIU have like 5-6 sacks in the game last year?

Yes, we had 6 sacks. 2 by Windsor. BrewHawk seems like a nice guy and all, but I have a hard time thinking he knows ANYTHING about football or NIU if he thinks the Hawkeyes with a brand new QB win by a margin of 41-17. I feel like Iowa is resting on their laurels of being BigTen, it's just stupid IMO. No facts or knowledge backing up any of their statements.

Those comments are from bunch of different peeps on the Iowa boards, NOT brewhawk...

Well I think that could go for a lof of their fans. When times are tough, you notch up your unrealism. Having said that, its entirely possible Iowa blows out NIU, I don't believe that is likely though.

Get out, NIU is a far more mature team, we will not be blown out by anybody....

(08-16-2013 05:27 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 05:23 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 03:51 PM)7 Wrote:  The "Iowa should dominate in the trenches" comments have me bufuddled. Didn't NIU have like 5-6 sacks in the game last year?

Yes, we had 6 sacks. 2 by Windsor. BrewHawk seems like a nice guy and all, but I have a hard time thinking he knows ANYTHING about football or NIU if he thinks the Hawkeyes with a brand new QB win by a margin of 41-17. I feel like Iowa is resting on their laurels of being BigTen, it's just stupid IMO. No facts or knowledge backing up any of their statements.

Those comments are from bunch of different peeps on the Iowa boards, NOT brewhawk...

Yes, but BrewHawk did say 41-17 and didn't have much reasoning behind it. The others saying our DL will be dominated is awesome dumb. We will be less out weighed than last year up there, and Ken Bishop is going up to a guy new at center.

(08-16-2013 05:34 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  Yes, but BrewHawk did say 41-17 and didn't have much reasoning behind it. The others saying our DL will be dominated is awesome dumb. We will be less out weighed than last year up there, and Ken Bishop is going up to a guy new at center.

This is him on his own board.

Quote:Hawks 41-17. I feel it in my heart. Head says Iowa still wins, but by a lesser margin.

We have a good OL returning with more experience than last year. Established RBs with more experience (and talent) than last year. A defense that should also be more experienced (and talented, save one CB) than last year. Honestly, I really don't care what they have because they lost to a bad Iowa team last year with the best team in their program's history on a neutral field.

If we have limited mistakes from our QB we should win going away. They won't be able to stop our run game and if they sell out to do so, we will be able to exploit them downfield.

I really like our chances in this one, barring catastrophic turnovers of course. We just have too many weapons this year.

I think this game is going to be close. All they remember is how their team was terrible last year and still won. I can think about is how much better our O is going to be despite losing our top 2 WRs. We started a brand new line against them and a new QB... I think our D will stack the box and prove they can throw the ball downfield before we stop playing like that.

I think our D will play a lot like it did against FSU. Maybe a little more aggressive, but they won't be blitzing like crazy.

I have to say, reading this thread and having a few drinks in the process is getting me real fired up for this game. We simply have to beat Iowa to keep any street cred we are starting to develop. I cannot wait for this game.

Go Huskies!!!!!!

(08-16-2013 06:12 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 05:34 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  Yes, but BrewHawk did say 41-17 and didn't have much reasoning behind it. The others saying our DL will be dominated is awesome dumb. We will be less out weighed than last year up there, and Ken Bishop is going up to a guy new at center.

This is him on his own board.

Quote:Hawks 41-17. I feel it in my heart. Head says Iowa still wins, but by a lesser margin.

We have a good OL returning with more experience than last year. Established RBs with more experience (and talent) than last year. A defense that should also be more experienced (and talented, save one CB) than last year. Honestly, I really don't care what they have because they lost to a bad Iowa team last year with the best team in their program's history on a neutral field.

If we have limited mistakes from our QB we should win going away. They won't be able to stop our run game and if they sell out to do so, we will be able to exploit them downfield.

I really like our chances in this one, barring catastrophic turnovers of course. We just have too many weapons this year.

I think this game is going to be close. All they remember is how their team was terrible last year and still won. I can think about is how much better our O is going to be despite losing our top 2 WRs. We started a brand new line against them and a new QB... I think our D will stack the box and prove they can throw the ball downfield before we stop playing like that.

I don't think Iowa was terrible, mediocre is better word. They beat MSU and played tons of close games that just broke the wrong way. They did have one of the better Big 10 defenses.

Please notice my heart vs. head comment. I do try to be realistic. I'm just hoping for a win and imagine it will be closer than 24 points. All I know is that it was a one point game last year and we were a crappy team. I expect better things from the Iowa football program and a convincing win will go a long way to supporting that.

I do think you guys will wear down in the fourth quarter, but Ferentz will just sit on the ball if we have any sort of a two possession lead.

(08-16-2013 06:34 PM)BrewHawk Wrote:  Please notice my heart vs. head comment. I do try to be realistic. I'm just hoping for a win and imagine it will be closer than 24 points. All I know is that it was a one point game last year and we were a crappy team. I expect better things from the Iowa football program and a convincing win will go a long way to supporting that.

I do think you guys will wear down in the fourth quarter, but Ferentz will just sit on the ball if we have any sort of a two possession lead.

You didn't face the same NIU team in week 1 that you would have in week 9 either. The offense was on training wheels it was Lynch's first start. You have a brand new QB this year.

Ya I understand that BrewHawk, but you're also using coach talk by saying I don't care who they have. I totally disagree you have more weapons offensively. An inexperienced QB, a new guy at center, new wideouts. Yes you have a more experienced O-Line, one that got ran over by NIU's defensive line, which half is gone. I see two weapons and I think one of them can be neutralized to running for less than 100 yards. Your best weapon is CJ, who if a a QB can't get it there it won't matter. Comparing last year is very pointless. You have to go with what you know and have actual facts.

Lynch has progressed...a lot
Wiesman has become dependable
NIU and Iowa both have solid secondary and o-lines
NIU has more offensive weapons and a more explosive game plan, if I hear TOP as an argument it shows you dont know the fast paced nature of a no huddle
With so many equal comparisons there are two things you can look at
1. Game site, obvious advantage to Iowa
2. QB play, obvious advantage to NIU
Which advantage will have more of a factor, people on the field as opposed to us cynical fans in the stands

(08-16-2013 06:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 06:34 PM)BrewHawk Wrote:  Please notice my heart vs. head comment. I do try to be realistic. I'm just hoping for a win and imagine it will be closer than 24 points. All I know is that it was a one point game last year and we were a crappy team. I expect better things from the Iowa football program and a convincing win will go a long way to supporting that.

I do think you guys will wear down in the fourth quarter, but Ferentz will just sit on the ball if we have any sort of a two possession lead.

You didn't face the same NIU team in week 1 that you would have in week 9 either. The offense was on training wheels it was Lynch's first start. You have a brand new QB this year.

...and after seven TD passes all of last year, that's a good thing!

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could say Iowa should dominate in the trenches when they gave up 6 sacks to our DL last year and averaged 2.8 YPC lol

(08-16-2013 11:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could say Iowa should dominate in the trenches when they gave up 6 sacks to our DL last year and averaged 2.8 YPC lol

They're a BC$ school - therefore they are automatically better than us little non-BC$ schools in every single aspect of the game. NIU stands zero chance vs. Iowa and Purdue, just like UT stands zero chance vs. Florida & Missouri.

:sarcasm:

Wow - if there are concerns about a bad Iowa team we should just stop any talk about "great" team status. The 2003 team would march over this Iowa team. I am expecting that on 8-31!

(08-17-2013 12:20 AM)RedShark27 Wrote:  Wow - if there are concerns about a bad Iowa team we should just stop any talk about "great" team status. The 2003 team would march over this Iowa team. I am expecting that on 8-31!

Depends on who you talk to, Iowa is supposed to have one of the best if not the best defense in the Big 10. If they can get consistent QB play there is no reason to not think that can finish in the top 4 of their conference.

(08-16-2013 06:52 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  Ya I understand that BrewHawk, but you're also using coach talk by saying I don't care who they have. I totally disagree you have more weapons offensively. An inexperienced QB, a new guy at center, new wideouts. Yes you have a more experienced O-Line, one that got ran over by NIU's defensive line, which half is gone. I see two weapons and I think one of them can be neutralized to running for less than 100 yards. Your best weapon is CJ, who if a a QB can't get it there it won't matter. Comparing last year is very pointless. You have to go with what you know and have actual facts.

Lynch has progressed...a lot
Wiesman has become dependable
NIU and Iowa both have solid secondary and o-lines
NIU has more offensive weapons and a more explosive game plan, if I hear TOP as an argument it shows you dont know the fast paced nature of a no huddle
With so many equal comparisons there are two things you can look at
1. Game site, obvious advantage to Iowa
2. QB play, obvious advantage to NIU
Which advantage will have more of a factor, people on the field as opposed to us cynical fans in the stands

Sorry, missed your good post earier. I do agree with you to a point. I didn't see anything from Lynch in the Orange Bowl that lead me to believe he's progressed enough to make a difference against a good defense. Outside of his one run against one of the poorest defenses Iowa has fielded lately, he was unable to generate much of anything. Same case against FSU. Our defense will be near the level of FSU's last year (laugh if you want, but it will prove to be true).

You think you can neutralize a guy who ran over everybody he faced last year (when healthy), when our now third (maybe even fourth) string RB went for 150 yards last year behind a less experienced OL? You guys lost some major DL talent from last year. Better talent there than you've had in the past (save English).

The reason the game was even close last year was due to Iowa's red zone struggles (which were a real problem against more than just NIU). I would be really surprised if our starting QB (whomever it is) will have only seven TD passes on the season again. With two new coordinators last year, there was a huge culture change that had to be absorbed. Obviously this didn't happen nearly as well as anyone would have hoped and then we lost two starting OL within five minutes vs. Penn St. and the rest of the season went down the tubes.

We did lost Keenan Davis to the NFL, but you guys also have to replace two WRs that were essentially your entire passing game last year. We have much more talent at WR than we did last year due to incoming juco and Greg Davis hand picked WR. Supposedly there was a disconnect between Davis and our previous WR coach, so he was let go and replaced by Davis' WR coach at Texas, Bobby Kennedy. This should aid in everyone being on the same page.

TOP keeps your defense on the field. I understand no huddle, but if it isn't effective, you really hurt your defense and eventually they collapse from exhaustion. Iowa essentially dominated the second half last year aside from Jordan's 75 yard sprint, which you can't discount. I see this happening again this year.

Again, you're trying to say that Iowa and NIU are equal, which just isn't the case. If Iowa plays back to it's average and NIU plays back to it's average, the Hawks should win going away. I will say that first games of the season are a bit of a wildcard and it's hard to say how things will play out the rest of the season, but I do know the ins and outs of the Hawkeye football program quite well and will be hugely surprised if they don't play worlds better this year than last. Iowa has won a lot of big games with intangibles/hidden yards over the years so I can understand why someone looking for concrete evidence might be skeptical, but I guess I'm just asking for folks to trust my gut feel on this one (outside of what I've mentioned otherwise).

I haven't even mentioned true frosh LeShun Daniels yet.

Suffice it to say that there are a lot of good reasons we were 4-8 last year and most if not all of those are being addressed and corrected. I expect a minimum of 7-8 wins from them this year, if only because of a better DL (but there's so much more).

(08-17-2013 11:26 AM)BrewHawk Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 06:52 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  Ya I understand that BrewHawk, but you're also using coach talk by saying I don't care who they have. I totally disagree you have more weapons offensively. An inexperienced QB, a new guy at center, new wideouts. Yes you have a more experienced O-Line, one that got ran over by NIU's defensive line, which half is gone. I see two weapons and I think one of them can be neutralized to running for less than 100 yards. Your best weapon is CJ, who if a a QB can't get it there it won't matter. Comparing last year is very pointless. You have to go with what you know and have actual facts.

Lynch has progressed...a lot
Wiesman has become dependable
NIU and Iowa both have solid secondary and o-lines
NIU has more offensive weapons and a more explosive game plan, if I hear TOP as an argument it shows you dont know the fast paced nature of a no huddle
With so many equal comparisons there are two things you can look at
1. Game site, obvious advantage to Iowa
2. QB play, obvious advantage to NIU
Which advantage will have more of a factor, people on the field as opposed to us cynical fans in the stands

Sorry, missed your good post earier. I do agree with you to a point. I didn't see anything from Lynch in the Orange Bowl that lead me to believe he's progressed enough to make a difference against a good defense. Outside of his one run against one of the poorest defenses Iowa has fielded lately, he was unable to generate much of anything. Same case against FSU. Our defense will be near the level of FSU's last year (laugh if you want, but it will prove to be true).

You think you can neutralize a guy who ran over everybody he faced last year (when healthy), when our now third (maybe even fourth) string RB went for 150 yards last year behind a less experienced OL? You guys lost some major DL talent from last year. Better talent there than you've had in the past (save English).

The reason the game was even close last year was due to Iowa's red zone struggles (which were a real problem against more than just NIU). I would be really surprised if our starting QB (whomever it is) will have only seven TD passes on the season again. With two new coordinators last year, there was a huge culture change that had to be absorbed. Obviously this didn't happen nearly as well as anyone would have hoped and then we lost two starting OL within five minutes vs. Penn St. and the rest of the season went down the tubes.

We did lost Keenan Davis to the NFL, but you guys also have to replace two WRs that were essentially your entire passing game last year. We have much more talent at WR than we did last year due to incoming juco and Greg Davis hand picked WR. Supposedly there was a disconnect between Davis and our previous WR coach, so he was let go and replaced by Davis' WR coach at Texas, Bobby Kennedy. This should aid in everyone being on the same page.

TOP keeps your defense on the field. I understand no huddle, but if it isn't effective, you really hurt your defense and eventually they collapse from exhaustion. Iowa essentially dominated the second half last year aside from Jordan's 75 yard sprint, which you can't discount. I see this happening again this year.

Again, you're trying to say that Iowa and NIU are equal, which just isn't the case. If Iowa plays back to it's average and NIU plays back to it's average, the Hawks should win going away. I will say that first games of the season are a bit of a wildcard and it's hard to say how things will play out the rest of the season, but I do know the ins and outs of the Hawkeye football program quite well and will be hugely surprised if they don't play worlds better this year than last. Iowa has won a lot of big games with intangibles/hidden yards over the years so I can understand why someone looking for concrete evidence might be skeptical, but I guess I'm just asking for folks to trust my gut feel on this one (outside of what I've mentioned otherwise).

I haven't even mentioned true frosh LeShun Daniels yet.

Suffice it to say that there are a lot of good reasons we were 4-8 last year and most if not all of those are being addressed and corrected. I expect a minimum of 7-8 wins from them this year, if only because of a better DL (but there's so much more).

You come back to this thread after next year's NFL draft and tell me how many players on Iowa's defense are drafted in the first three rounds. I respect your opinions, but this statement is way off. I mean...like...WAY off.