(08-16-2013 03:42 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 03:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Where did I judge?

All I said was she killed herself by putting poison in her body.. She got hooked on meth and alcohol, both are poisons. Regardless if she was getting cleaned it's what ultimately done her in. I never once said she deserved it. It's sad, but she done it to herself.

To be honest, I was not even talking about you in general. I was referring to the string of responses already on this thread. In many regards, this country has lost its compassion.

Actually when you quoted what I said, you were speaking to me directly.
So therefore I take offense and will defend whatever I feel I need to defend.

Back to the compassion of death in this country, I show my compassion to those whom I've met or people I respect. It would be hard for me to be tore up over Lisa Robin Kelly. I didn't know her and I only saw her on the show a few times. Again, I'm saddened for her family, because that's who we need to be grieving for because they lost a daughter, sister, cousin, aunt, etc. I'm not one to get emotional over celebrities because in my opinion most of them these days are nothing but overpaid children who don't know how to act because they were always told they were precious and perfect and could do no wrong in mama and daddy's eyes.

You want to see my big country a$$ tear up. Let me fly somewhere in this country and see a soldier in dress blues and hear they're accompanying a fallen friend or fellow soldier home, I'll cry like a baby.

OK, this has really gone away from the purpose of the OP. I know you didn't make the Darwin comment. You were just the last to respond and I quoted you. Let's just drop it. I was just pointing out how many of us have become cruel towards the departed. I share many of your views about celebrities. Hell, I don't even go to movies because of the political agenda behind most of them. But death is final and can see the human side in a situation like this. That's all. I didn't mean to single you out.

It is a shame b/c if this country wasnt so soft on drugs she may not of been able to get them and then everything would be very cheery!

(08-16-2013 04:53 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  It is a shame b/c if this country wasnt so soft on drugs she may not of been able to get them and then everything would be very cheery!

yes, because lax drug laws have been such a success each and every time they have been utilized.

Her drug of choice was alcohol. Drug laws had nothing to do with her death.

Strict drug laws have a higher social cost than lax drug laws. Alcohol is a drug and one of the worst at that.

(08-16-2013 05:48 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  Strict drug laws have a higher social cost than lax drug laws. Alcohol is a drug and one of the worst at that.

According to the Office of National Drug Control Policy, prescription drug abuse is the nation's fastest-growing drug problem. In 2007, there were 28,000 deaths from prescription drug overdoses. This is five times higher than the number in 1990. More people die in America every year from prescription drug abuse (i.e., legal and available drugs) than from heroin and cocaine combined.

That's legal and controlled drugs. It's a nice populist talking point that gets libertarians all excited, but the figures don't add up. Any society that has legalized or decriminalized drugs has regretted it. It has literally failed several times before. Yet America is always hell bent on learning from experience.

Side note. Google is flooded with articles and commentary about legalizing drugs. Looks like the Administration was successful at getting the ball rolling. Another pillar about to fall in American society.

Prescription drug deaths are caused 99% of time by a powerful opiate IE oxy, opana, etc being mixed with a sedative IE alcohol, benzo, etc. These drugs are more powerful and desirable than heroin imo. Non violent offenders being thrown in prison b/c simple minds lacking life experience say that is best; is a very high social cost. Decriminalize and all the money collected in fines should go to rehabilitation and maybe a bit for preventive education. Just b/c someone gets addicted it doesnt make them automatically a thief or a bad person. Heck you were addicted to spice if I remember correctly. The war on drugs has been the worst failure since Vietnam. Not everything is black and white, conservative and liberal, fox or msbsc

(08-16-2013 06:07 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  Prescription drug deaths are caused 99% of time by a powerful opiate IE oxy, opana, etc being mixed with a sedative IE alcohol, benzo, etc. These drugs are more powerful and desirable than heroin imo. Non violent offenders being thrown in prison b/c simple minds lacking life experience say that is best; is a very high social cost. Decriminalize and all the money collected in fines should go to rehabilitation and maybe a bit for preventive education. Just b/c someone gets addicted it doesnt make them automatically a thief or a bad person. Heck you were addicted to spice if I remember correctly. The war on drugs has been the worst failure since Vietnam. Not everything is black and white, conservative and liberal, fox or msbsc

They kill more people than crack and are being sold on the street. Should people selling these drugs have lesser sentences? Decriminalization is not going to lessen abuse. In fact it amplifies it. It sends a message to people that drugs aren't as bad as they have been made out to be. There is documented proof of that in other countries that have tried what you are proposing.

BTW people in state and federal prison for marijuana related offenses are less than 2 percent of the people incarcerated on drug charges. We spend money on hard core drug offenders and traffickers. People who are tied to violent cartels and drug gangs. Making it easier is not going to lessen the problem. The costs saved on fighting these people will be spent in health care, offenses due to drug use, funerals, welfare, mental health - not to mention the overall breakdown of society when drugs become readily available.

Here is a place in America with lax drug laws. Looks like a lovely scene.




The only way to combat the drug problem is through societal changes

(08-16-2013 03:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Where did I judge?

All I said was she killed herself by putting poison in her body.. She got hooked on meth and alcohol, both are poisons. Regardless if she was getting clean it's what ultimately done her in. I never once said she deserved it. It's sad, but she done it to herself.

why are you even wasting your time?