I can't really blame Auburn for not scheduling Troy at this point and time. I feel that Troy would beat Auburn and that would be a nightmare for recruiting. Alabama on the other hand has no reason to not schedule in state teams. As long as Saban is there they will have no issues recruiting.

Auburn would still beat Troy but for them, what exactly is the advantage of the game to begin with? It's not as if they need help with attendance and likely don't want to add a million to the budget of a school that has potential of taking a recruit from them every now and then. It's no big deal to play Utah State because well, they're in Utah. It's a game of advantages. They want to give no advantage to a team in the same state, basically.

Let me ask another question:

What benefit does Alabama or Auburn gain by playing Troy? (same question would be valid for UT, A&M, TCU, etc playing us).

It's not going to increase their strength of schedule. It's not going to put them in another recruiting location for them to talk to recruits. It's not going to make them any money (they already sell out home games without needing traveling fans).

Plus, if they lose, they lose to an instate team that could use that as a recruiting advantage for them.

Sadly, in this day and age, college football is big business. And it just doesn't make business sense to play Troy for Auburn and Alabama.

Screw 'em.

(08-14-2013 03:18 PM)EaglesDare Wrote:  UGA played us every 4 years so they could count the win. I don't know if that will continue now though since we will be FBS.

Not sure either, but I don't see why not, except if the SEC goes to a 9-game conference schedule. That means Georgia would have only 2 "open" games per season (Georgia Tech obviously isn't going away), and they would have to be parceled out very carefully.

I remember the first game between the two teams. Ray Goff was coach for the Dawgs and Stowers for Southern. Georgia won 34-7 (it was Goff's best team in 8 years), and he didn't want to do anything that could be interpreted as "running up the score".

Obviously, Dooley and Russell would not have wanted their teams to play against each other. (Dooley had been forced to coach against his brother's team in the Gator Bowl one year and didn't enjoy the experience. Coaching against Erk Russell would've been a similar dynamic).

(08-14-2013 04:22 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:45 PM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:41 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Curious... Neither Auburn nor Alabama will schedule Troy at all? Or is it that they won't schedule Troy per the details Troy feels it deserves?

I am totally ignorant on this topic, so I ask it genuinely and not trying to be a prick about it.

But I wonder, would Auburn or Alabama play Troy at their home stadiums, but not schedule a return trip to Troy (even on a 2-1 or 3-1)?

Are Texas or Texas A&M scheduling you guys in football?

We played at A&M in 2005 and almost beat them when Fran was their coach. I know there were rumors around a year ago out of A&M message boards that they may have been looking at doing a 3 and 2 with us but nothing came of it. Instead they lined up a bunch of home games with Rice and UTSA. I think UTSA is going there three times and getting no games in return.

As for UT, forget it. They will never even consider a road game. Maybe just maybe a money game but I doubt it. They did a home and home with Rice and made them play at Relient in Houston even though Rice has a huge stadium. Everything is to their terms. I think UNT played in Austin once when they needed someone to fill at the last minute.

Maybe this is me but we will most likely never be considered for a game against the aggies till Fran is gone. Fran had a rocky ending with his illegal newsletter so either the aggies won't schedule us or Fran does not want us scheduling them.

We probably also severed ties with Houston after humiliating them in a game they bought as a win which makes me mad they owe us a San Marcos trip after 2 games there.

(08-14-2013 11:21 PM)TEXAS ST 99 Wrote:  Maybe this is me but we will most likely never be considered for a game against the aggies till Fran is gone. Fran had a rocky ending with his illegal newsletter so either the aggies won't schedule us or Fran does not want us scheduling them.

That's an excellent point and one I had TOTALLY forgotten about. Yeah, odds are good we won't be getting a call from A&M anytime soon.

I know Rev its unfortunate but wouldn't the least bit surprise me if that's the case and it sucks because I have aggie inlaws who have aggie season tickets who would get me free tickets if we ever played them.

Want to know how tight the Sun Belt is?

Look at the schedules.

Arkansas won't play ASU. But ULM, Troy, and Louisiana play them.
Auburn and Bama won't play Troy or USA, but ASU and others will schedule them.
And so on and so forth.

I don't like this business of taking a check and a probable loss from schools that are happy to play any Sun Belt team other than one in their state.

(08-14-2013 10:15 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Screw 'em.

Exactly!!! Screw 'em!

There is a small advantage the other way in that not playing a large BCS school it can
also avoid a score that would be repeated endlessly by some in the state and actually
hurt that program somewhat. Not a good reason, but best can think of.

UAT will not play any DI school in Alabama other than Auburn. Auburn has played several other state schools but not on a regular basis. They have played UAB, Samford and Alabama A&M maybe some more. JSU was scheduled to play Auburn in 15 but Auburn bought the contract out.

UAT has no reason to play anyone outside of their process. The are the top dog and plan to stay there. Its hard to argue with the results. UAT and Auburn could lose to any in state school and feel no effect on recruiting (IMO). History and playing in the SEC has its advantages.

But the real reason is the same as why Troy, USA and UAB wont travel to JSU, Samford, AL State and AL A&M, they feel superior to the other schools but are apprehensive to prove it on the field.

(08-14-2013 04:49 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:22 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:45 PM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:41 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Curious... Neither Auburn nor Alabama will schedule Troy at all? Or is it that they won't schedule Troy per the details Troy feels it deserves?

I am totally ignorant on this topic, so I ask it genuinely and not trying to be a prick about it.

But I wonder, would Auburn or Alabama play Troy at their home stadiums, but not schedule a return trip to Troy (even on a 2-1 or 3-1)?

Are Texas or Texas A&M scheduling you guys in football?

We played at A&M in 2005 and almost beat them when Fran was their coach. I know there were rumors around a year ago out of A&M message boards that they may have been looking at doing a 3 and 2 with us but nothing came of it. Instead they lined up a bunch of home games with Rice and UTSA. I think UTSA is going there three times and getting no games in return.

As for UT, forget it. They will never even consider a road game. Maybe just maybe a money game but I doubt it. They did a home and home with Rice and made them play at Relient in Houston even though Rice has a huge stadium. Everything is to their terms. I think UNT played in Austin once when they needed someone to fill at the last minute.

Rice frequently host Texas in Houston. Just since 2003, Texas & Rice have played 8 times, with 3 games in Houston. North Texas has played Texas 9 times and has a game with Texas coming up in 2014. North Texas has played A&M 7 times and hosted them at Texas Stadium.

North Texas has hosted every Texas FBS team, with the exception of Texas and newbie UTSA. We host UTSA at Apogee this year.

texas will play us in all sports but only at their place. a-m will come to our place. they are easier to get along with. we played them twice back when we had a football team. we thumped texas once at our place in a swim meet and that's the only time I remember them ever coming to uta. of course they're a top program now and we dont have a swim team anymore so you see how that turned out. tcu will come to us but I dont think smu will..I once heard Frank Broyles say on the radio that arkansas would never play another arkansas school in anything if he had anything to do with it.

(08-15-2013 07:55 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  UAT will not play any DI school in Alabama other than Auburn. Auburn has played several other state schools but not on a regular basis. They have played UAB, Samford and Alabama A&M maybe some more. JSU was scheduled to play Auburn in 15 but Auburn bought the contract out.

UAT has no reason to play anyone outside of their process. The are the top dog and plan to stay there. Its hard to argue with the results. UAT and Auburn could lose to any in state school and feel no effect on recruiting (IMO). History and playing in the SEC has its advantages.

But the real reason is the same as why Troy, USA and UAB wont travel to JSU, Samford, AL State and AL A&M, they feel superior to the other schools but are apprehensive to prove it on the field.

Why are you lumping USA in this group? Our football program is 4 years old. Lol

(08-14-2013 03:30 PM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:22 PM)SpiritCymbal Wrote:  We've played UGA every 4 years since 1992 (except 1996). We have GT on the schedule for 2014 for our first meeting and have UGA on the schedule for 2016. We're really hoping that we can continue to play UGA every 4 years and would love to get on the same rotation with GT so that we're playing one or the other every 2 years.

Playing Ga. State every year and GT/UGA every other year is good business for the state.

We are not going to get scheduled by GT or UGA.

I highly doubt that they are afraid of you at this point, or that you will steal recruits away from them.

Just an outsiders opinion, but I wonder if that has something to do with your AD. She's probably making ridiculous offers to them and they are just laughing at her and no games get scheduled.

Before either of us announced FBS, your AD only would schedule us at the dome. Being a new startup FCS team our AD said "No Thanks!". It wouldn't surprise me if she's "trying to play hard ball" with UGA and schedule a Home and Home, rather than just an away game. From what yall have said, she seems clueless enough to try something like that.

(08-14-2013 03:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  LSU schedules all of us within the state of Louisiana.

Since hiring HUD LSU has cancelled the series with the Cajuns.

Auburn (for example) would not benefit from playing Troy? It would save a lot of money, for one. Troy would play there for much less than the $1.2 million or so Bama and Burn play visiting programs.

The game would be a guaranteed sell-out (and Burn probably isn't selling out lately).

Is potentially losing to Troy any worse than actually losing to ULM (happened to Bama), or Georgia State or Arkansas State or ULL, or FAU, or WKU? Bama and Burn have played every Sun Belt team at least once in football.

A year or two ago, Bama had a date come open. Troy offered to fill it. Bama, instead, chose to schedule (if I remember correctly) Wyoming and pay it more than $1 million. How is that good for the State of Alabama?

Sun Belt schools are prohibited from traveling in football to I-AA teams' homes.

(08-15-2013 08:00 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:55 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  UAT will not play any DI school in Alabama other than Auburn. Auburn has played several other state schools but not on a regular basis. They have played UAB, Samford and Alabama A&M maybe some more. JSU was scheduled to play Auburn in 15 but Auburn bought the contract out.

UAT has no reason to play anyone outside of their process. The are the top dog and plan to stay there. Its hard to argue with the results. UAT and Auburn could lose to any in state school and feel no effect on recruiting (IMO). History and playing in the SEC has its advantages.

But the real reason is the same as why Troy, USA and UAB wont travel to JSU, Samford, AL State and AL A&M, they feel superior to the other schools but are apprehensive to prove it on the field.

Why are you lumping USA in this group? Our football program is 4 years old. Lol

So y'all gonna play JSU in the coming years ya think? Better make it a home and home otherwise JSU won't go for it.

(08-15-2013 09:18 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  Auburn (for example) would not benefit from playing Troy? It would save a lot of money, for one. Troy would play there for much less than the $1.2 million or so Bama and Burn play visiting programs.

The game would be a guaranteed sell-out (and Burn probably isn't selling out lately).

Is potentially losing to Troy any worse than actually losing to ULM (happened to Bama), or Georgia State or Arkansas State or ULL, or FAU, or WKU? Bama and Burn have played every Sun Belt team at least once in football.

A year or two ago, Bama had a date come open. Troy offered to fill it. Bama, instead, chose to schedule (if I remember correctly) Wyoming and pay it more than $1 million. How is that good for the State of Alabama?

Sun Belt schools are prohibited from traveling in football to I-AA teams' homes.

Truth.

(08-15-2013 08:24 AM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:30 PM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 03:22 PM)SpiritCymbal Wrote:  We've played UGA every 4 years since 1992 (except 1996). We have GT on the schedule for 2014 for our first meeting and have UGA on the schedule for 2016. We're really hoping that we can continue to play UGA every 4 years and would love to get on the same rotation with GT so that we're playing one or the other every 2 years.

Playing Ga. State every year and GT/UGA every other year is good business for the state.

We are not going to get scheduled by GT or UGA.

I highly doubt that they are afraid of you at this point, or that you will steal recruits away from them.

Just an outsiders opinion, but I wonder if that has something to do with your AD. She's probably making ridiculous offers to them and they are just laughing at her and no games get scheduled.

Before either of us announced FBS, your AD only would schedule us at the dome. Being a new startup FCS team our AD said "No Thanks!". It wouldn't surprise me if she's "trying to play hard ball" with UGA and schedule a Home and Home, rather than just an away game. From what yall have said, she seems clueless enough to try something like that.

I agree, there's no way Greg McGarity agrees to a home & home with Georgia State, or schedules a game at all it's too early. Georgia Tech is the same town, no way IMO.