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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
It's amazing how gay topics are so popular with the same select few posters. I see several topics on this forum that have a bigger impact on the country, yet go untouched.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has to do with being open to procreation. It isn't that difficult to grasp.

We're not currently open to procreation. I have no plans to be in the future.

I'm living in sin?

That's what you're telling me?
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's amazing how gay topics are so popular with the same select few posters. I see several topics on this forum that have a bigger impact on the country, yet go untouched.

I guess this is the point I am trying to make. We have much larger issues in our country than debating gay marriage. The sooner we resolve this and legalize this, the more our country can focus on actual issues.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:35 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's amazing how gay topics are so popular with the same select few posters. I see several topics on this forum that have a bigger impact on the country, yet go untouched.

I guess this is the point I am trying to make. We have much larger issues in our country than debating gay marriage. The sooner we resolve this and legalize this, the more our country can focus on actual issues.

Not that I agree with your statement, but you get a pass because you haven't been here the last few days where this has been debated to death.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
How many gay threads have we had in the past month - 20 or 30?
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:28 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because marriage is a union designed for a man and a women.

Answer this question:

Why do gay couples normally have one partner playing the role of the man, while the other acquires the more feminine role?

So, you and the Mrs. are strictly missionary, under the covers, lights off, vanilla types?

What does one have to do with the other?

He seems to think that how the sex is carried out has some bearing on whether or not consenting adults can marry. I was just trying to get some clarity.

I did not see anything in his post which implied the details of the encounter made it valid only the genders of the participants.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:35 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's amazing how gay topics are so popular with the same select few posters. I see several topics on this forum that have a bigger impact on the country, yet go untouched.

I guess this is the point I am trying to make. We have much larger issues in our country than debating gay marriage. The sooner we resolve this and legalize this, the more our country can focus on actual issues.

So the only resolution is legalizing it?
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has to do with being open to procreation. It isn't that difficult to grasp.

We're not currently open to procreation. I have no plans to be in the future.

I'm living in sin?

That's what you're telling me?

So if your wife got pregnant, you would abort it, is that what you are telling me because that is what it means to be not open to procreation? Not planning and not open are not the same concept. If that is the case than you are living in sin. Whether you be elderly, infertile, on birth control, or using natural family planning, your sex act has to come with openness to procreation, even if chances are 0.0001% of that happening. You don't have to answer the question, but that would be my position.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:41 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  How many gay threads have we had in the past month - 20 or 30?

Don't look at me. I'm not starting them.
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(08-14-2013 01:41 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  How many gay threads have we had in the past month - 20 or 30?
The mid terms are coming up. The right has to get their base riled up to get out to the polls.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:08 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If two people love each other, why should they have less rights than your average male and female marriage?

Because this country was founded on Christian values. This is nothing more than gay couples being mad that they can't marry. They knew when they decided to be with each other that they couldn't get married in certain states. Quit the bitching and move to a state where it's allowed. F*ck dude.. Cigarette prices are $20 per pack in NY, but $3.48 per pack down here in Louisiana... What does someone in NY do if they want a $3.48 pack of smokes? Cry or deal with it? Why is it so different for them up there? Poor babies...
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:41 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  How many gay threads have we had in the past month - 20 or 30?
The mid terms are coming up. The right has to get their base riled up to get out to the polls.

and how did that end for the Democrats last time?
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has to do with being open to procreation. It isn't that difficult to grasp.

We're not currently open to procreation. I have no plans to be in the future.

I'm living in sin?

That's what you're telling me?

So if your wife got pregnant, you would abort it, is that what you are telling me because that is what it means to be not open to procreation? Not planning and not open are not the same concept. If that is the case than you are living in sin. Whether you be elderly, infertile, on birth control, or using natural family planning, your sex act has to come with openness to procreation, even if chances are 0.0001% of that happening. You don't have to answer the question, but that would be my position.

Okay, so according to you, I'm living in sin, because there are no additional children in my future.

Now that that's settled, is my marriage any less valuable than someone who's churning them out like Model A Fords?

Because I made a promise to a woman in front of God and a church full of people, and I think it kinda is.

You know what's immoral to me? That certain adults get certain legal protections and privileges that other adults don't. Hell, that's un-American.
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(08-14-2013 01:46 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:08 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If two people love each other, why should they have less rights than your average male and female marriage?

Because this country was founded on Christian values. This is nothing more than gay couples being mad that they can't marry. They knew when they decided to be with each other that they couldn't get married in certain states. Quit the bitching and move to a state where it's allowed. F*ck dude.. Cigarette prices are $20 per pack in NY, but $3.48 per pack down here in Louisiana... What does someone in NY do if they want a $3.48 pack of smokes? Cry or deal with it? Why is it so different for them up there? Poor babies...

I was unaware it was a choice...
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
Marriage gives women having babies more legal stability and security.
How is that needed between two gays?
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(08-14-2013 01:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because marriage is a union designed for a man and a women.

Answer this question:

Why do gay couples normally have one partner playing the role of the man, while the other acquires the more feminine role?

So, you and the Mrs. are strictly missionary, under the covers, lights off, vanilla types?

Can't answer it either huh?

Nope. Frankly, I have no idea. Now, answer my question: What does it matter to you, and how is it relevant to whether or not two consenting adults can marry?

Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person.

Don't like that gays can't marry? Don't be gay and expect to be married.
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(08-14-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Marriage gives women having babies more legal stability and security.
How is that needed between two gays?

So, people who don't want or can't have children don't need marriage, either?
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(08-14-2013 01:50 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because marriage is a union designed for a man and a women.

Answer this question:

Why do gay couples normally have one partner playing the role of the man, while the other acquires the more feminine role?

So, you and the Mrs. are strictly missionary, under the covers, lights off, vanilla types?

Can't answer it either huh?

Nope. Frankly, I have no idea. Now, answer my question: What does it matter to you, and how is it relevant to whether or not two consenting adults can marry?

Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person.

Don't like that gays can't marry? Don't be gay and expect to be married.

Wait. What?
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(08-14-2013 01:51 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:50 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 01:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, you and the Mrs. are strictly missionary, under the covers, lights off, vanilla types?

Can't answer it either huh?

Nope. Frankly, I have no idea. Now, answer my question: What does it matter to you, and how is it relevant to whether or not two consenting adults can marry?

Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person.

Don't like that gays can't marry? Don't be gay and expect to be married.

Wait. What?

It seems like this argument is teetering towards LSU and others thinking being gay is a choice...
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-14-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Marriage gives women having babies more legal stability and security.
How is that needed between two gays?

Inheritance laws. Life insurance laws.
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