(08-13-2013 02:41 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The new APR 930 4yr or 940 2yr requirements will also hurt.

Teams on the bubble for the 2014-2015 bowls need to be eligible...
NM St-968
UTEP-963
Louisville-956
ODU-947
Tulsa-945
Idaho-944
New York (Buffalo)-942
ULM-940
FAU-938
Troy-937

Huh? What numbers are those?

According to the NCAA database, https://web1.ncaa.org/maps/tiwitytilamvmaprRelease.jsp the following schools would not qualify in 2014, based on their 4-year APR:

Tulsa - 929
Iowa State - 928
Oklahoma State - 926
Buffalo - 925
Tennessee - 924
Louisville - 924
Troy - 921
Idaho - 919
UTEP - 917
NMSU - 916

I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Already said but I'll just reiterate for effect - the Big 14/ACC kicked out the G5 bowl in Detroit to replace with one of theirs. We need a new one just to get back to 3 bowl tie-ins.

(08-13-2013 03:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Already said but I'll just reiterate for effect - the Big 14/ACC kicked out the G5 bowl in Detroit to replace with one of theirs. We need a new one just to get back to 3 bowl tie-ins.

That was a good location for a MAC bowl game also. Watched a good one with CMU and Purdue a few years back.

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

It's exactly the same. And the Pizza Bowl was doing fine, confirmed by the fact that the Pizza Bowl sponsor wanted to continue having the bowl. They had better attendance than many of the other bowls. They still would if we could have both bowls in Detroit. But Ford Field, obviously pressured by Big 14/ACC wouldn't allow it.

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

You're pathetic.

(08-13-2013 03:58 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

You're pathetic.

I thought it was some sort of dumb joke.

The G5 are the de-stabilizing force

Let's see the G5 has backed the P5 reform plans, accepted the P5's offer of some money in lieu of performance based access to the top bowls (one team only need apply) and they are the bad guys.

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Its unbelievable what those greedy G-5 b*st@rds are doing! When will enough be enough! Next they are going to asking for something ridiculous like a ESPN blog.

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the ACC and B1G realignment is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

Fixed it.

(08-13-2013 05:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Its unbelievable what those greedy G-5 b*st@rds are doing! When will enough be enough! Next they are going to asking for something ridiculous like a ESPN blog.

LOL. Pretty soon the G5 is going to demand that the media acknowledges its existence, imagine that!

Using the 2014 season bowl lineup, the SEC would have left 3 bowls unfilled in 2012 as it had 9 eligible teams, 2 of whom would have been in the playoffs:

Sugar (Semifinal): #2 Alabama vs. #3 Florida
Orange: #7 Georgia
Outback: #8 LSU
Capital One: #9 Texas A&M
Texas: (vacant)
Belk: #10 South Carolina
Liberty: Vanderbilt
Music City: Mississippi State
Gator: Ole Miss
Birmingham: (vacant)
Independence: (vacant)

(08-13-2013 03:58 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

You're pathetic.

It's not pathetic to call people out for being greedy.

(08-13-2013 09:26 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:58 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:36 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:12 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I think it would be a power play in the name of greed if the G5 worked to make all of these new bowls instead of working within the current system. You don't see P5 conferences trying to make new bowl games for the sake of greed. Why would the G5 want to do this? How much more money can the take???

Uh...Detriot bowl with the Big 10 and ACC? Kinda kicked out the MAC.

This is a bowl that the Detroit Lions are putting on. It wasn't a bowl created by the ACC and B1G. Not the same. Besides, the Pizza bowl wasn't doing that well anyways. This is creative destruction at its finest. What the G5 is trying to do, otoh, is trying to destabilize the environment for the sake of greed.

You're pathetic.

It's not pathetic to call people out for being greedy.

LOL

(08-13-2013 09:03 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Using the 2014 season bowl lineup, the SEC would have left 3 bowls unfilled in 2012 as it had 9 eligible teams, 2 of whom would have been in the playoffs:

Sugar (Semifinal): #2 Alabama vs. #3 Florida
Orange: #7 Georgia
Outback: #8 LSU
Capital One: #9 Texas A&M
Texas: (vacant)
Belk: #10 South Carolina
Liberty: Vanderbilt
Music City: Mississippi State
Gator: Ole Miss
Birmingham: (vacant)
Independence: (vacant)

Those bowl slots would not have been left vacant. There were more than enough 6-win teams in 2012 to fill the existing bowl slots. (Two bowl-eligible teams were left out.)

Bowl games are only going to have unfilled vacancies if there are too many bowls for the total number of teams at .500 or better -- and that probably won't happen unless the total number of bowl games is increased, and it's likely that any increase in the number of games would be accompanied by rules permitting 5-win teams to go bowling.

(08-13-2013 09:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:03 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Using the 2014 season bowl lineup, the SEC would have left 3 bowls unfilled in 2012 as it had 9 eligible teams, 2 of whom would have been in the playoffs:

Sugar (Semifinal): #2 Alabama vs. #3 Florida
Orange: #7 Georgia
Outback: #8 LSU
Capital One: #9 Texas A&M
Texas: (vacant)
Belk: #10 South Carolina
Liberty: Vanderbilt
Music City: Mississippi State
Gator: Ole Miss
Birmingham: (vacant)
Independence: (vacant)

Those bowl slots would not have been left vacant. There were more than enough 6-win teams in 2012 to fill the existing bowl slots. (Two bowl-eligible teams were left out.)

Bowl games are only going to have unfilled vacancies if there are too many bowls for the total number of teams at .500 or better -- and that probably won't happen unless the total number of bowl games is increased, and it's likely that any increase in the number of games would be accompanied by rules permitting 5-win teams to go bowling.

The total number of bowl games WILL increase. For one thing, the Big 14/ACC kicked the MAC out of one in the process of adding a bowl. So the MAC will have to add one just to get back to 3 tie-ins. I'm sure they want to add at least one more besides that. I would rather sign up for a sure game against the Sun Belt instead of a possibility of a chance of a probability of playing against a 6-6 Big 14 team that squeeks into bowl eligibility.

That's why they want to add all these new games in places like Charleston and Montgomery. The new system would also help games like the Belk Bowl.

(08-13-2013 02:41 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The new APR 930 4yr or 940 2yr requirements will also hurt.

Teams on the bubble for the 2014-2015 bowls need to be eligible...
NM St-968
UTEP-963
Louisville-956
ODU-947
Tulsa-945
Idaho-944
New York (Buffalo)-942
ULM-940
FAU-938
Troy-937

Surprised about Tulsa and Buffalo. Said that NMSU is so bad and so low.