(08-13-2013 06:20 PM)Curtzilla Wrote:  Even the jersey is a mix of successful eras as the styling is from the late 60's (Mean Joe/Cedric Hardman era). That jersey was a lighter green, though. The darker green color is a homage to the Darrell Dickey years of a decade ago. The pants go back to the 50's when Abner Haynes broke the color barrier at Div 1 programs in Texas.

Not just Texas for Abner Haynes and (now Dr.) Leon King to integrate traditionally caucasian NCAA D1 schools but...how's bout' the entire Southwest and Deep South, too?

Once UNT integrated in the mid 1950's, numerous present Power 5 schools along with Southwest Conference schools immediately dropped us from their future football schedules. It would really hurt UNT in a time it could have built a program in the 50's and 60's by playing and beating a few significant schools back in that day.

With Abner Haynes and then later the Mean Joe Greene football era which had non-stop NFL draft choices from those teams including 2 #1's, I think it may have been more than just Jim Crow bigot attitudes that caused them to drop us off their schedules.

Most of the SWC schools (except SMU) would only play North Texas years later when we would be in losing cycle. Smart scheduling by some of their AD's, eh? SMU would tee it up with North Texas no matter what and not even look at our team roster so you have to hand it to the Stangs' for that.

GMG!

(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:20 PM)Curtzilla Wrote:  Even the jersey is a mix of successful eras as the styling is from the late 60's (Mean Joe/Cedric Hardman era). That jersey was a lighter green, though. The darker green color is a homage to the Darrell Dickey years of a decade ago. The pants go back to the 50's when Abner Haynes broke the color barrier at Div 1 programs in Texas.

Not just Texas for Abner Haynes and (now Dr.) Leon King to integrate traditionally caucasian NCAA D1 schools but...how's bout' the entire Southwest and Deep South, too?

Once UNT integrated in the mid 1950's, numerous present Power 5 schools along with Southwest Conference schools immediately dropped us from their future football schedules. It would really hurt UNT in a time it could have built a program in the 50's and 60's by playing and beating a few significant schools back in that day.

With Abner Haynes and then later the Mean Joe Greene football era which had non-stop NFL draft choices from those teams including 2 #1's, I think it may have been more than just Jim Crow bigot attitudes that caused them to drop us off their schedules.

Most of the SWC schools (except SMU) would only play North Texas years later when we would be in losing cycle. Smart scheduling by some of their AD's, eh? SMU would tee it up with North Texas no matter what and not even look at our team roster so you have to hand it to the Stangs' for that.

GMG!

Actually North Texas had 3, not 2, first round draft choices. Ironically it happened 3 years in a row. 1969-Joe Greene, 1970-Cedric Hardman and 1971-Leonard Dunlap. Greene and Hardman had All-Pro careers & Greene is in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Those are nice. I like the simplicity. I wish North Texas would go back to an eagle on the helmets. Not the flying worm. An eagle, like the one y'all had several years ago.

(08-12-2013 06:02 PM)Fear The Frog Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 04:29 PM)fussbudget Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 02:10 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  That is one ugly logo. It can still be improved though.

They did. Years ago.

Add this one and it they would look great

Like this one

Why not just a large logo of an eagles talon? That would look imposing and great on a helmet. As a matter of fact, you know how some school have a pickaxe logo (ahem), a longhorn, a TT, etc. for their vehicles an eagles talon would be great to showcase your fan affiliation.

(08-15-2013 12:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Why not just a large logo of an eagles talon? That would look imposing and great on a helmet. As a matter of fact, you know how some school have a pickaxe logo (ahem), a longhorn, a TT, etc. for their vehicles an eagles talon would be great to showcase your fan affiliation.

Like maybe this?

I'd keep 'em. They look good

(08-13-2013 10:39 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)MeanGreenGem Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:20 PM)Curtzilla Wrote:  Even the jersey is a mix of successful eras as the styling is from the late 60's (Mean Joe/Cedric Hardman era). That jersey was a lighter green, though. The darker green color is a homage to the Darrell Dickey years of a decade ago. The pants go back to the 50's when Abner Haynes broke the color barrier at Div 1 programs in Texas.

Not just Texas for Abner Haynes and (now Dr.) Leon King to integrate traditionally caucasian NCAA D1 schools but...how's bout' the entire Southwest and Deep South, too?

Once UNT integrated in the mid 1950's, numerous present Power 5 schools along with Southwest Conference schools immediately dropped us from their future football schedules. It would really hurt UNT in a time it could have built a program in the 50's and 60's by playing and beating a few significant schools back in that day.

With Abner Haynes and then later the Mean Joe Greene football era which had non-stop NFL draft choices from those teams including 2 #1's, I think it may have been more than just Jim Crow bigot attitudes that caused them to drop us off their schedules.

Most of the SWC schools (except SMU) would only play North Texas years later when we would be in losing cycle. Smart scheduling by some of their AD's, eh? SMU would tee it up with North Texas no matter what and not even look at our team roster so you have to hand it to the Stangs' for that.

GMG!

Actually North Texas had 3, not 2, first round draft choices. Ironically it happened 3 years in a row. 1969-Joe Greene, 1970-Cedric Hardman and 1971-Leonard Dunlap. Greene and Hardman had All-Pro careers & Greene is in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Thanks MG61, I had forgotten about Dunlap being an NFL #1.

What few from the old SBC and now CUSA know is how North Texas had actually beaten that same Frank Broyles' Arkansas Razorbacks team that played UT in the Game of the Century for an national championship the following Fall. A caught winning TD by Mean Green receiver Ron Shankline (another UNT NFL draft choice) was called a "dropped TD pass".......we seem to most always get the worst of past SWC home cooking.

The late Ron Shanklin told me at a Mexican restaurant in Fort Worth one day that when he was on the team with Mean Joe and the Steelers that 2 or 3 players from that same Razorbacks's team had called him and told him (apoligetically) that North Texas had really won that game. Oh well.....

Moral of Story: That was the level of quality which North Texas Mean Green football had at one time attained. We hope to do it again.

GMG!

PS: Ron Shanklin had a knee injury which cut short his NFL career, but he was one of the first Steeler receivers to catch rookie Terry Bradshaw's passes.