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Offseason Storylines
By Dana O'Neil | ESPN.com
1. Existence:

2. The new boss in town:

3. A new face at Butler:

4. The game's best walk-on:





Five Freshmen To Watch
By Dana O'Neil | ESPN.com

Reggie Cameron, Georgetown:
Kris Jenkins, Villanova:
JaJuan Johnson, Marquette:
Rysheed Jordan, St. John's:
Duane Wilson, Marquette:

2013-14 Big East Power Rankings
Marquette is the early favorite in wide-open, new-look conference
Updated: August 8, 2013, 1:14 PM ET
By Jeff Goodman | ESPN Insider

1. Marquette Golden Eagles
2. Creighton Bluejays
[b]3. Villanova Wildcats
4. Georgetown Hoyas
5. Xavier Musketeers[/b]
6. St. John's Red Storm
7. Providence Friars
8. Butler Bulldogs
9. Seton Hall Pirates
10. DePaul Blue Demons

EDITED so the copyright ninjas don't come after us--Bragg

Don't you love how Dana basically says the same thing in the first two things? Also where did the idea that the league has just been fighting one another come from? It seems to me they have been very united in this venture.

What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

(08-09-2013 01:59 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

Although in THIS ten-team league, #6-7 mean "on the tournament bubble", which feels about right.

Quote:1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

(08-09-2013 02:59 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 01:59 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

Although in THIS ten-team league, #6-7 mean "on the tournament bubble", which feels about right.

Quote:1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Frankly I don't ever see this league getting 7 out of 10 in the tournament. 6 in a great year.

Also, the only Insider article was the Goodman rankings. Everything else is fine to post in full. It is legal.

(08-09-2013 03:37 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Frankly I don't ever see this league getting 7 out of 10 in the tournament. 6 in a great year.

True, but #6-7 in the league will always consider themselves a bubble team going into the Big East Tournament. If #7 beats #3 and #2, they're probably in. Maybe that means #5 goes to the NIT...

Quote:Also, the only Insider article was the Goodman rankings. Everything else is fine to post in full. It is legal.

AUP says you can't post in full. You can quote, you can summarize, etc, but you can't post in full. People have to follow the link to the source to get the whole thing.

(08-09-2013 05:50 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 03:37 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Frankly I don't ever see this league getting 7 out of 10 in the tournament. 6 in a great year.

True, but #6-7 in the league will always consider themselves a bubble team going into the Big East Tournament. If #7 beats #3 and #2, they're probably in. Maybe that means #5 goes to the NIT...

Quote:Also, the only Insider article was the Goodman rankings. Everything else is fine to post in full. It is legal.

AUP says you can't post in full. You can quote, you can summarize, etc, but you can't post in full. People have to follow the link to the source to get the whole thing.

On #1: We hope that that is the case. We need Nova, Stj, and Providence to be who we know they can be.

On #2: Yeah, I get that. But legally it's only a problem if it is a subscription service.

(08-09-2013 08:12 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 05:50 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 03:37 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Frankly I don't ever see this league getting 7 out of 10 in the tournament. 6 in a great year.

True, but #6-7 in the league will always consider themselves a bubble team going into the Big East Tournament. If #7 beats #3 and #2, they're probably in. Maybe that means #5 goes to the NIT...

Quote:Also, the only Insider article was the Goodman rankings. Everything else is fine to post in full. It is legal.

AUP says you can't post in full. You can quote, you can summarize, etc, but you can't post in full. People have to follow the link to the source to get the whole thing.

On #1: We hope that that is the case. We need Nova, Stj, and Providence to be who we know they can be.

On #2: Yeah, I get that. But legally it's only a problem if it is a subscription service.

Maybe I wasn't being clear. I mean that, at this point in the year, about 100 schools consider themselves tournament locks or bubble teams. And Big East #6 and 7 would be in that group of 100.

(08-09-2013 01:59 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

I think that Marquette still has a lot of work to do. So, I see it more like this:

1. Georgetown
2. Villanova
3. Creighton
4. St. John's
5. Providence
6. Marquette
7. Xavier
8. Butler
9. Depaul
10. Seton Hall

(08-09-2013 09:14 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 01:59 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

I think that Marquette still has a lot of work to do. So, I see it more like this:

1. Georgetown
2. Villanova
3. Creighton
4. St. John's
5. Providence
6. Marquette
7. Xavier
8. Butler
9. Depaul
10. Seton Hall

Hahahahaha.

(08-10-2013 01:29 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 09:14 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 01:59 PM)aughnanure Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 11:37 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  What a post!

I agree with his point that there isn't a lot of difference among the teams from #1 through #8. Having said that, I think he's seriously underrating Providence and St. John's.

Thanks for a great read.

Here is how I see it. Really hard to choose #3-7. I hate to put Xavier and St. John's that low. In a ten-team league #6 and 7 feel like a snub.

1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Providence
5. Creighton
6. St. John's
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

I think that Marquette still has a lot of work to do. So, I see it more like this:

1. Georgetown
2. Villanova
3. Creighton
4. St. John's
5. Providence
6. Marquette
7. Xavier
8. Butler
9. Depaul
10. Seton Hall

Hahahahaha.

No disrespect intended.

I'll take a shot.

1. Georgetown
2. Creighton
3. Marquette
4. 'Nova
5. St.J
6. PC
7. Xavier
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall

Smith is suppose to be pretty fit now. GU will do great in the regular season, post season I'm not as confident. People under estimate Buzz as a coach but he is actually pretty good with the talent/experience that he has to work with.

I'll go with:

1. Marquette
2. Georgetown
3. Villanova
4. Creighton
5. St.J
6. PC
7. Xavier
8. Butler
9. Depaul
10. Seton Hall

Creighton will be lights out offensively. However, with the loss of Echenique, are interior defense will take a hit. Also, the fact that we are going to 9 new venues on the road, we are probably gonna lose some road games we shouldn't.

Here are my complete BIASED picks:

1) Xavier - Should be much improved offensively with a lot more depth than last year and defensively this will be a very strong team. Also you have a potential top 10 pick in a deep NBA draft next year.
2) St. Johns - talent and they put it together this year
3) Marquette - Buzz Williams

4-7 is pick'em
4) Villanova
5) Creighton
6) Georgetown
7) Providence

8) Butler
9) Seton Hall
10) DePaul

(08-12-2013 10:52 AM)Xumuskie1994 Wrote:  Here are my complete BIASED picks:

1) Xavier - Should be much improved offensively with a lot more depth than last year and defensively this will be a very strong team. Also you have a potential top 10 pick in a deep NBA draft next year.
2) St. Johns - talent and they put it together this year
3) Marquette - Buzz Williams

4-7 is pick'em
4) Villanova
5) Creighton
6) Georgetown
7) Providence

8) Butler
9) Seton Hall
10) DePaul

I have no dog in the fight and I think you have it right.

(08-12-2013 11:51 AM)Clueless Economist Wrote:  I have no dog in the fight and I think you have it right.

Georgetown returns four starters and you concur with 6th? Really?

where are the points going to come from?

CU gets 5th and they have 4 of 5 back as well.

1. Marq
2. GTown
3. St. John's
4. Creighton
5. Nova
6. Xavier
7. Providence
8. DePaul
9. Butler
10. Seton Hall