(08-10-2013 03:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 12:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 09:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 09:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 03:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Mr. SEC is a muckraker who hasn't been right about as much as he claims to be, usually when he gives his agreement after the fact. I love how he distorts the U-verse arrangement. U-verse has been in its infancy for a year. How many households would you say that AT&T and its associates have been in nationally? Yeah, a boat load. The obstacle for U-verse has been overcoming cable lobbies in states to allow them to set up their distribution. I think I'll bet on AT&T in this one versus Charter, Dish, DirectTV (which interestingly is part of the AT&T bundle in many states), and WOW.

His clicks are down and he's just trying to get hits. It is the dead time for the next three weeks. His former occupation was in connection with NFL distribution/marketing and now the guy has attached himself to the SEC (the most popular of the college football conferences) to dissect information, make predictions, and get hits to support himself. He is just a much more sophisticated Dude or Yoda.

I guarantee you that if cable companies don't sign on that U-verse will be in the majority of homes in the Southeast within two years. And I further guarantee you that any state representative who tries to block U-verse in favor of a company that doesn't carry the SECN will have a very short stay in public service.

Mr SEC can get pretty annoying to read. He is incredibly self indulgent and links all of his own articles in every new article. He also feels the need to constantly remind people what his opinion is.

Almost every article goes like this:

"...SEC ADs are meeting today in Destin to discuss a nine game schedule (something we've been a supporter of). They are discussing making the move for the 2014 season to help with the new SEC network (something we predicted way back in 2010 here and here)...."

I think he is very level headed and reasonable. Some people just like homers (otherwise NOONE would ever read Clay Travis). He is definitely pro-SEC, just not absurdly so.

I agree with the poster above that Texas, Missouri and parts of Florida will be a real battle to get it on.

I can't stand Clay Travis either. Gamecocks comments on Mr. SEC's self indulgences are not only accurate, but really don't do the amount of self indulgence justice. I tend to get my information from regional sites that are not homeristic and I also like to go directly to school sites to find what buzz is being generated by the news items. I can't think of anything Clay has been right about and quite frankly Mr. SEC is a ditto. But in fairness to them I haven't really seen anyone who has been 100% on realignment yet. It's like baseball. If you're batting .300 (meaning you are right about a third of the time) you are doing great.

He will repeat himself (and Mr SEC is actually 2 or 3 different people), but I agree with him on the 9 game schedule, so I don't find that annoying. I find it annoying that Florida, Alabama and now Georgia (since they hired a former UF employee as AD) are scheduling FCS schools. You don't see AAAAA High schools in Texas scheduling AAA schools and except for geographically isolated areas, its pretty unusual to schedule a AAAA school. Doesn't bother me when UK and Vandy do it, although I would rather them schedule MAC and Sun Belt schools. If you want to see self-congratulating, read Phil Steele. He has a thick college football preview because over half is congratulating himself on getting things right (of course he's trying to sell his betting service).

I totally agree with 9 game conference schedules as well. Add an ACC crossover a Big 12 cross over a piece for each of our conferences and suddenly all of the teams in the South can claim significant SOS and have some more accurate measuring sticks to gauge conference strength on a given year. For the 12th (homecoming) game I don't care who they are so long as they are FBS. If we are going to be P5 then at least 11 of our 12 need to be against other P5 schools and the remaining game at least against those who are considered to be FBS. That still gives ever P5 team 6 home games on the away year and 7 on the home year.

I don't read Mr. SEC but outside the south, SEC network better have a great offer on the table. Direct prides itself on its sports and they still haven't signed carriage agreements with the Pac-12 nor Fox Sports.

(08-11-2013 10:13 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I don't read Mr. SEC but outside the south, SEC network better have a great offer on the table. Direct prides itself on its sports and they still haven't signed carriage agreements with the Pac-12 nor Fox Sports.

I think direcTV's issue with the conference networks is they all want basic cable placement like the big ten network has, and they aren't having it. Now LHN they have a problem with because on their words "one football game does not make a network," but the PAC and probably sec will like have issues over placement and money, not over directv ever wanting to carry it.


The thing is though one thing that separates the Big ten network from all of the others to date is they draw big ratings from their basketball, which carries games five days a week, in addition to their football. That double edged sword gives them a big leg up. Not only does it extend the window of live events from September trhu November to September thru march, but it makes the "in-season" draw for information go from August thru march or April depending on the calendar for the post season basketball tournament and how far teams advance (they won't have live games, but still competing teams gives them something current to draw viewers).

(08-10-2013 12:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 09:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 09:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 03:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:49 AM)Maize Wrote:  Also with Fox troubles with Directv, Dish & TWC...

http://mrsec.com/2013/08/cbs-war-with-ti...-a-lay-up/

Mr. SEC is a muckraker who hasn't been right about as much as he claims to be, usually when he gives his agreement after the fact. I love how he distorts the U-verse arrangement. U-verse has been in its infancy for a year. How many households would you say that AT&T and its associates have been in nationally? Yeah, a boat load. The obstacle for U-verse has been overcoming cable lobbies in states to allow them to set up their distribution. I think I'll bet on AT&T in this one versus Charter, Dish, DirectTV (which interestingly is part of the AT&T bundle in many states), and WOW.

His clicks are down and he's just trying to get hits. It is the dead time for the next three weeks. His former occupation was in connection with NFL distribution/marketing and now the guy has attached himself to the SEC (the most popular of the college football conferences) to dissect information, make predictions, and get hits to support himself. He is just a much more sophisticated Dude or Yoda.

I guarantee you that if cable companies don't sign on that U-verse will be in the majority of homes in the Southeast within two years. And I further guarantee you that any state representative who tries to block U-verse in favor of a company that doesn't carry the SECN will have a very short stay in public service.

Mr SEC can get pretty annoying to read. He is incredibly self indulgent and links all of his own articles in every new article. He also feels the need to constantly remind people what his opinion is.

Almost every article goes like this:

"...SEC ADs are meeting today in Destin to discuss a nine game schedule (something we've been a supporter of). They are discussing making the move for the 2014 season to help with the new SEC network (something we predicted way back in 2010 here and here)...."

I think he is very level headed and reasonable. Some people just like homers (otherwise NOONE would ever read Clay Travis). He is definitely pro-SEC, just not absurdly so.

I agree with the poster above that Texas, Missouri and parts of Florida will be a real battle to get it on.

I can't stand Clay Travis either. Gamecocks comments on Mr. SEC's self indulgences are not only accurate, but really don't do the amount of self indulgence justice. I tend to get my information from regional sites that are not homeristic and I also like to go directly to school sites to find what buzz is being generated by the news items. I can't think of anything Clay has been right about and quite frankly Mr. SEC is a ditto. But in fairness to them I haven't really seen anyone who has been 100% on realignment yet. It's like baseball. If you're batting .300 (meaning you are right about a third of the time) you are doing great.

Mr SEC would be fine if he respected his audience a little bit more and didn't feel the need to reference his own articles every day. I read his page daily for a few months but eventually I had to stop because he talks about his site almost as much as he talks about SEC Sports.

I think the SEC network will eventually be as successful as the Big Ten Network. Too many people will demand it and large numbers will tune in.

First year or two may be rough though.

I don't think the SEC like the PAC-12 has a national fanbase. The SEC fans are mostly in the south while the PAC-12 is west. The Big Ten has the best following out of all the conferences and are located pretty much everywhere and that is why the Big Ten Network is so successful.

(08-11-2013 04:57 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  I don't think the SEC like the PAC-12 has a national fanbase. The SEC fans are mostly in the south while the PAC-12 is west. The Big Ten has the best following out of all the conferences and are located pretty much everywhere and that is why the Big Ten Network is so successful.

Well gee whiz, how on earth does the SEC max out the national audience so frequently then? Better do your homework on the ratings per game. The SEC frequently has the nations most watched match ups. When we have rematches of teams during the season not as much, but those kinds of games tend to lag anyway.

U-verse is in its infancy. Eventually AT&T will be have it in all states and then the SEC network will be available nationwide. Until then there are enough households in the Southeast and on the periphery of the SEC footprint to permit it to hit its target goals for the start up phase.

(08-11-2013 05:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 04:57 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  I don't think the SEC like the PAC-12 has a national fanbase. The SEC fans are mostly in the south while the PAC-12 is west. The Big Ten has the best following out of all the conferences and are located pretty much everywhere and that is why the Big Ten Network is so successful.

Well gee whiz, how on earth does the SEC max out the national audience so frequently then? Better do your homework on the ratings per game. The SEC frequently has the nations most watched match ups.

I disagree with Jet915, but what he said and what you said do not necessarily contradict. It's possible for the SEC to achieve the "most watched match ups" based on absolutely dominating within their own market, yet doing less-well on the West Coast and Northeast compared to (say) the B1G.

(08-11-2013 06:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 05:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 04:57 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  I don't think the SEC like the PAC-12 has a national fanbase. The SEC fans are mostly in the south while the PAC-12 is west. The Big Ten has the best following out of all the conferences and are located pretty much everywhere and that is why the Big Ten Network is so successful.

Well gee whiz, how on earth does the SEC max out the national audience so frequently then? Better do your homework on the ratings per game. The SEC frequently has the nations most watched match ups.

I disagree with Jet915, but what he said and what you said do not necessarily contradict. It's possible for the SEC to achieve the "most watched match ups" based on absolutely dominating within their own market, yet doing less-well on the West Coast and Northeast compared to (say) the B1G.

True, but not the case. The SEC doesn't dominate markets outside of their region, but the % that they carry is higher in other markets than other conferences not native to those regions. So on a Saturday in which an SEC game is a solid top draw in the South that game is still likely to be the second best draw among college football watchers in regions outside of the Southeast.

(08-11-2013 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 06:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 05:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 04:57 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  I don't think the SEC like the PAC-12 has a national fanbase. The SEC fans are mostly in the south while the PAC-12 is west. The Big Ten has the best following out of all the conferences and are located pretty much everywhere and that is why the Big Ten Network is so successful.

Well gee whiz, how on earth does the SEC max out the national audience so frequently then? Better do your homework on the ratings per game. The SEC frequently has the nations most watched match ups.

I disagree with Jet915, but what he said and what you said do not necessarily contradict. It's possible for the SEC to achieve the "most watched match ups" based on absolutely dominating within their own market, yet doing less-well on the West Coast and Northeast compared to (say) the B1G.

True, but not the case. The SEC doesn't dominate markets outside of their region, but the % that they carry is higher in other markets than other conferences not native to those regions. So on a Saturday in which an SEC game is a solid top draw in the South that game is still likely to be the second best draw among college football watchers in regions outside of the Southeast.

Depends totally on the matchups. SEC ratings were dismal with bad matchups. When you had Alabama/LSU or Alabama/UGA, it was very high. The SEC has had a lot of good teams in the last few years and some very good matchups.

To further what bullet is saying, I have the ratings for every national tv college football and basketball game. The sec did have the best ratings S a mean; but not by median rating. Meaning the ratings were top heavy and offset by the very large ratings of a select few games. They also have significant times lot advantages which really help. But the ratings difference between the sec and say the big ten is not as big as your think, especially when you consider that the big ten often has games that compete with each other whereas the sec CBS times lot is protected from other sec competition. Those CBS games are what give them such a big advantage.


Truth be told notte dame by far has the best average rating per game, as well as NBC by far has the best rating per network (due to ND).