(08-05-2013 03:09 PM)banker Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 02:44 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 02:31 PM)banker Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 02:15 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 01:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Haven't been to a title game if I'm not mistaken.

This thread is lolz

To the best of my knowledge Marshall has only finished in 2nd place in the CUSA East Dvision just one time. Most of their time in the division they are down around 4th and 5th place in CUSA East.

BTW, Marshall has games @ Ohio, @VT, and @Tulsa; and they have ECU in W. Va. All of those teams received votes in the preseason coaches poll.

Cool, a lesson in Obvious History from a Pirate fan. The other night I was watching a baseball game. Some dude struck out his first three times up. Fourth at bat he hits a home run, which, according to the way some ECU fans view the world, is impossible. There's no way you can have a good outcome if you have previously had a bad outcome.

Reality versus delusions is the issue.

You mean like ECU fans thinking they can beat a FBS team with a winning record. Yep 2010, good memories for you guys.

Even if Marshall doubled their win total from last year; they would still only be 10-2. A record of 10-2 is a good record, but that doesn't sound like BCS material. To be honest with you, Marshall will have to have improvement on defense just to get 6 wins, much less 10 or 11 wins.

No one in this thread said Marshall was going to make a BCS game. You let your hatred impede your reading comprehension.

Actually, the AAC could play a role.

Since there are two rules that come into play for Non AQ to get the Auto Bid to a BCS game.

Quote:A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or

B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

So if the AAC champ is ranked below 16, then it a little easier to get a team up to the rankings.

You still need to be the highest ranked non AQ, so Boise needs to fall since they will start the season as the highest ranked Non AQ.

Thanks Freshy. I've been hearing lots of "noise" re: the Golden Eagles lately. Y 'all are at a crossroads...similar, IMO, to Memphis after the original CUSA defections. I can't say here what I've heard, but I'm heartened as a USM supporter.

(08-05-2013 12:55 PM)banker Wrote:  Marshall wouldn't need all that to happen. All we would need (and I'm not saying it will happen) is for us to go 13-0 and be the only undefeated G5 school. If that happened, we'd get a bid. If everything happened you said we would have a shot at the title game provided there was only one 1 loss P5 team and no undefeated P5 teams.

No. There is no shot at the title game for anyone outside the cartel.

(08-05-2013 03:24 PM)banker Wrote:  No one in this thread said Marshall was going to make a BCS game. You let your hatred impede your reading comprehension.

When a thread is started about BCS scenarios, by a fan from a school that historically finishes in 4th or 5th place in CUSA East Division; then it can reasonably concluded that the fans thinks that his team will be in position to go to a BCS game. That is what other reasonable posters concluded as well.

The good news for you is that in 24 days the paper champion will end and the real championship hunt will begin. If form holds true in about 75 days a lot of Marshall fans will start threads about how much Doc Holiday sucks. It is just really odd how this football offseason looks eerily similar to the basketball offseason last year. Marshall got a ton of hype, before they crashed and burned. The lesson that Marshall fans like you should have taken away from that season is that having a bunch of highly rated NQ's on your roster does not mean success, if they have a bad coach. I couldn't get it out of my gut back then that Herrion was a really bad coach; and I hate to tell you, but I think that Holiday might be just as bad; which might be why other coaches hardly ever give Marshall the benefit of the doubt in any poll. I just have this ability to see bad coaches and I beginning to think that the USM fans can see him too, because now they know what one looks like.

(08-05-2013 03:38 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:24 PM)banker Wrote:  No one in this thread said Marshall was going to make a BCS game. You let your hatred impede your reading comprehension.

When a thread is started about BCS scenarios, by a fan from a school that historically finishes in 4th or 5th place in CUSA East Division; then it can reasonably concluded that the fans thinks that his team will be in position to go to a BCS game. That is what other reasonable posters concluded as well.

The good news for you is that in 24 days the paper champion will end and the real championship hunt will begin. If form holds true in about 75 days a lot of Marshall fans will start threads about how much Doc Holiday sucks. It is just really odd how this football offseason looks eerily similar to the basketball offseason last year. Marshall got a ton of hype, before they crashed and burned.

Did you really have to say crash and burn. A ECU fan saying that to Marshall. I would have said before they ran into reality. Anyways ECU will only win 5 games this year anyways.

(08-05-2013 03:43 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:38 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:24 PM)banker Wrote:  No one in this thread said Marshall was going to make a BCS game. You let your hatred impede your reading comprehension.

When a thread is started about BCS scenarios, by a fan from a school that historically finishes in 4th or 5th place in CUSA East Division; then it can reasonably concluded that the fans thinks that his team will be in position to go to a BCS game. That is what other reasonable posters concluded as well.

The good news for you is that in 24 days the paper champion will end and the real championship hunt will begin. If form holds true in about 75 days a lot of Marshall fans will start threads about how much Doc Holiday sucks. It is just really odd how this football offseason looks eerily similar to the basketball offseason last year. Marshall got a ton of hype, before they crashed and burned.

Did you really have to say crash and burn. A ECU fan saying that to Marshall. I would have said before they ran into reality. Anyways ECU will only win 5 games this year anyways.

You know damn well how it was meant. It was pretty low classed of you to even go there.

I don't think anyone thought of that when PirateMarv said that.. I know it didn't cross my mind. I don't think he sat there all day to use that either.

(08-05-2013 01:47 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 01:43 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 01:01 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  An asteroid hitting the earth, but not before we got the protective bubble up around our schools?

That's why we have Rice in the conference.

Every conference has that school..

We have Rice.
SEC has Vandy.
Big XII has Baylor.
B1G has Purdue.
ACC, MWC, the Belt, and AAC might be screwed.
Pac Whatever has Sanford.

ACC = several very highly ranked academic schools (duke, wake forest, uva, unc, georgia tech (all rated considerably higher), the u, maryland (gone), pittsburgh are all rated higher than either Baylor or Purdue) with rutgers and virginia tech rated higher than baylor.

(08-05-2013 03:25 PM)Hilltop1215 Wrote:  Actually, the AAC could play a role.

Since there are two rules that come into play for Non AQ to get the Auto Bid to a BCS game.

Quote:A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or

B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

So if the AAC champ is ranked below 16, then it a little easier to get a team up to the rankings.

You still need to be the highest ranked non AQ, so Boise needs to fall since they will start the season as the highest ranked Non AQ.

Not quite - you have to be the highest ranked non-AQ conference CHAMPION.

aac champ ul ends at #17;
all other aq champs higher than #16;
Marshall at 12-0, #5 and lose to Tulsa in a close championship game....falls to #13;
BSU wins MWC with a loss and ends year at #16.

In the above scenario both Marshall and Boise meet the #16 ranking requirement. Marshall is the highest rated but only Boise is a conference champ --- bcs is required to take Boise but doesn't owe Marshall crap.

I stand corrected thanks to WOLEagle.

(08-05-2013 03:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:43 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:38 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:24 PM)banker Wrote:  No one in this thread said Marshall was going to make a BCS game. You let your hatred impede your reading comprehension.

When a thread is started about BCS scenarios, by a fan from a school that historically finishes in 4th or 5th place in CUSA East Division; then it can reasonably concluded that the fans thinks that his team will be in position to go to a BCS game. That is what other reasonable posters concluded as well.

The good news for you is that in 24 days the paper champion will end and the real championship hunt will begin. If form holds true in about 75 days a lot of Marshall fans will start threads about how much Doc Holiday sucks. It is just really odd how this football offseason looks eerily similar to the basketball offseason last year. Marshall got a ton of hype, before they crashed and burned.

Did you really have to say crash and burn. A ECU fan saying that to Marshall. I would have said before they ran into reality. Anyways ECU will only win 5 games this year anyways.

You know damn well how it was meant. It was pretty low classed of you to even go there.

I seldom find myself agreeing with pirates who post in this forum, but this time you are 100% correct about the previous guy "going there". At best it could be said to have been a lame comment.

(08-05-2013 04:05 PM)WinOrLoseEAGLE Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 03:25 PM)Hilltop1215 Wrote:  Actually, the AAC could play a role.

Since there are two rules that come into play for Non AQ to get the Auto Bid to a BCS game.

Quote:A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or

B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

So if the AAC champ is ranked below 16, then it a little easier to get a team up to the rankings.

You still need to be the highest ranked non AQ, so Boise needs to fall since they will start the season as the highest ranked Non AQ.

Not quite - you have to be the highest ranked non-AQ conference CHAMPION.

aac champ ul ends at #17;
all other aq champs higher than #16;
Marshall at 12-0, #5 and lose to Tulsa in a close championship game....falls to #13;
BSU wins MWC with a loss and ends year at #16.

In the above scenario both Marshall and Boise meet the #16 ranking requirement. Marshall is the highest rated but only Boise is a conference champ --- bcs is required to take Boise but doesn't owe Marshall crap.

You are correct, I was just responding to the idea that the AAC played no role at all.

I copied that directly from the BCS website. I guess I should have included the whole entry. I just figured the Conference Champ part was implied.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819597

Quote:3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, or the Sun Belt Conference (hereinafter "non-AQ group") will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or

B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from the non-AQ group shall earn an automatic berth in any year, unless non-AQ teams finish both No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings. (Note: A second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

Okay, y'all are confusing me. Break it down in the simplest terms for 2013 if you please. CUSA, MWC, SB, and MAC will compete for a BCS spot, correct? The winner of the AAC, be it Memphis (homer pick) or Louisville gets the spot...right?

(08-05-2013 06:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Okay, y'all are confusing me. Break it down in the simplest terms for 2013 if you please. CUSA, MWC, SB, and MAC will compete for a BCS spot, correct? The winner of the AAC, be it Memphis (homer pick) or Louisville gets the spot...right?

If Memphis were to win the AAC Championship and ranked, they just don't need a non-AQ champ ranked higher than them.

Cool, they just need the New Madrid fault to activate...

What does your team have to do to make breakfast this year?

Marshall Fan - we'll we have to get some eggs, bacon and biscuits.

UAB Fan - well, we'll have to hope we have a stove.

USM Fan - well, last year we dropped the eggs on the way home and never even got a chance to cook, but this year we have the ingredients.

ECU Fan - Marshall has never even proven that they know how to break eggs.

(08-05-2013 02:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Phase one of our cunning plan is already in execution. Once the hobbled Johnny Footballs fall on Aug 31st, the rest is easy.

It would indeed be sweet if Johnny Lohan's first 2013 pass was a Pick Six right to Phillip Gaines.