(08-05-2013 07:04 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  Rutgers
BC
UConn
Syracuse
Temple
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Ohio State
Michigan

i kind of like this line up. A little pennsylvania heavy but overall pretty good

If we want the ideal conference that maximizes revenue, why not just have one conference?

ACC Coastal South:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Tennessee

ACC Coastal North:
NC State
North Carolina
Duke
Virginia Tech
Tennessee

ACC Atlantic South:
Kentucky
Louisville
Cincinnati
Maryland
Virginia

ACC Atlantic North:
Penn State
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Boston College

I have thought for as long as I have thought about such things that a 9 team conference is ideal. It allows for equal home and away games in all sports, including football, and it is a full round robin, which I think is supremely preferred. 9 is a small enough number to keep it regional but large enough to cover a substantial area for exposure. It also allows many opportunities for OOC games that are critical to each program.

For example, in a 9 team conference, Duke could be in conference with other elite private schools, like Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vandy, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College, Miami, and someone else (Georgetown, Baylor, Navy, etc.). Duke would have 8 football games against those opponents, so they could still play UNC, UVA, and whoever else they consider important to their rivalries and purposes. There are a lot of great possibilities that would allow cultural fit to reign supreme. Here are a few at the top that are intriguing:

PAC - Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Utah, Colorado

SEC - Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina

Big 10 - Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan

Big East - Ohio State, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, West Virginia

Elite - Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Miami, Duke, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College, Baylor

ACC - Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, Auburn, Georgia Tech, FSU, Clemson, NC State, Texas Tech

Mid-American - Kansas State, Iowa State, Purdue, Louisville, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, UConn, Cincinnati

MWC - Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, San Diego State, UNLV, Hawaii, Utah State, Colorado State, New Mexico

I may have accidentally missed a team, so apologies, but you get the idea. I know there is initial drama, like seeing Ohio State with more eastern teams. Remember, though, that they have 4 OOC games in this setup. They can still play Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois every year if they want to. Same idea for everybody else. Notre Dame can still play USC, Stanford, and Navy every year.

Well, there is my ideal.

(08-06-2013 08:23 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 07:04 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  Rutgers
BC
UConn
Syracuse
Temple
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Ohio State
Michigan

i kind of like this line up. A little pennsylvania heavy but overall pretty good

same here.....

has 3 of my teams and keeps all the rivalries i care about

(although i would gladly substitute temple for another school) specifically NW

Tennessee-Martin
Cal Poly
Army
Idaho
Indiana State
SIU
Presbyterian College
Nebraska

Since these are teams we've chosen to play at home OOC recently, I assume our administration is expecting rivalries here. Except for Nebraska in that we'll be playing at their place 4 times in 8 years for some reason. So that would be a rivalry too I guess. LOL Sorry, done ranting.

(08-07-2013 03:19 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Tennessee-Martin
Cal Poly
Army
Idaho
Indiana State
SIU
Presbyterian College
Nebraska

Since these are teams we've chosen to play at home OOC recently, I assume our administration is expecting rivalries here. Except for Nebraska in that we'll be playing at their place 4 times in 8 years for some reason. So that would be a rivalry too I guess. LOL Sorry, done ranting.

Ha! Great post.

(08-07-2013 10:26 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ACC Coastal South:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Tennessee

ACC Coastal North:
NC State
North Carolina
Duke
Virginia Tech
South Carolina

ACC Atlantic South:
Kentucky
Louisville
Cincinnati
Maryland
Virginia

ACC Atlantic North:
Penn State
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Boston College

Tennessee gets to play in two divisions?

Maybe you could put the chickens in the ACC Coastal South.

Southwest Conference, sans Rice. We already had our ideal conference and f'd it all up.

Arkansas (1915–1991)
Baylor (1915–1996)
Houston (1976–1996)
Rice (1915–1917 provisional, 1918–1996)
SMU (1918–1996)
Texas (1915–1996)
Texas A&M (1915–1996)
TCU (1923–1996)
Texas Tech (1956–1996)

Texas A&M
Arkansas
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Alabama
Auburn
Missouri
Kansas

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Virginia Tech
NC State
West Virginia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

As a Missouri State fan, I'd enjoy something like this

Missouri State
Memphis
Western Kentucky
Tulsa
Arkansas St
Houston
SMU
Illinois State
***(hoops schools)***
Wichita State
SLU

Here's mine. Its a good mix of football/basketball and its regional (mostly, Duke might not like it).

Miami, FSU, Clemson and GT (GO FOOTBALL Pod)

UNC, NCST, UVA, VT

WVU, UMD, Pitt, PSU

'Cuse, BC, UConn, Duke (GO BASKETBALL Pod)

(08-07-2013 04:33 PM)XLance Wrote:  Tennessee gets to play in two divisions?

Maybe you could put the chickens in the ACC Coastal South.

Good catch. Edited.

1) cincy
2) Ohio state
3) Alabama
4) Texas
5) Notre dame
6) USC
7) Florida
8) Oregon
9) Oklahoma
10) Michigan

Bball only
1) duke
2) UNC
3) Syracuse
4) Kentucky
5) UCLA
6) Uconn

Wow what a conference I created. Truly an across America conference. We would make so much money we could even donate some to the rest. Also there is no homer in this UC truly deserves to be the head of this conference

Real this time my ideal for cincy is

1) cincy
2) Louisville
3) Memphis
4) Pitt

5) UCF
6) USF
7) Miami
8) Florida state

9) West Virginia
10) nc state
11) Virginia tech
12) Clemson

13) Kansas
14) oklahoma st
15) Houston
16) kstate/smu/tcu

I couldn't decide if I like first 12 better or all 16 but I like these schools for cincy. For Ohio state I like the big ten minus rutgers and Maryland for my ideal

One CSU Ram alumnus' perspective:

Wyoming (oldest interstate rivalry west of the Mississippi River)
Air Force
Colorado at Boulder

Oklahoma
Nebraska
Texas
Houston

U$C
UCLA
Stanford
Cal-Berkeley

A fella can dream, can't he?

A northeast conference designed to build lots of ugly geographic rivalries. 16 for football, 18 for basketball.

1. Boston College
2. UMass
3. UConn
4. Syracuse
5. Ohio State
6. Cincinnati
7. Pitt
8. Penn State
9. Rutgers
10. Temple
11. Maryland
12. West Virginia
13. Virginia
14. Virginia Tech
15. Army (Football Only)
16. Navy (Football Only)
17. Georgetown
18. Villanova
19. St. Johns
20. Providence

(08-06-2013 02:03 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:18 PM)whitey Wrote:  

(08-03-2013 12:29 PM)john01992 Wrote:  if you could build a conference from scratch how would you do it?

for me it would be the current big 10 plus syracuse & colorado (feeding my homerism)

Give ECU the same $$$ that the P5 gets & we would beat all of your a$$es.

Give??? You do know that most top tier programs at some point in their history took the big step up because of private donors, right?. ECU has that ability right now if the alumni so choose. Every other dime that the top tier schools are "given" is a voluntary purchase by a fan, a contracted amount by a media or merchandising outlet that is based on perceived or actual value, and a small percentage may be money from the State for public schools. In your case, you can complain to the state of North Carolina. In my life, every time I've had someone say to "give" me a chance, I've been burned. Go earn it. There are a few good ECU posters on here, but most of you choose to talk in ways that is unbecoming and further reinforces negative impressions from P5 folks. It is classic small man's syndrome.

Who is John Galt.....
(i hope at least someone picks up on the reference, and before anyone gets all pissy, its not a knock on anyone)

(08-07-2013 11:41 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  I have thought for as long as I have thought about such things that a 9 team conference is ideal. It allows for equal home and away games in all sports, including football, and it is a full round robin, which I think is supremely preferred. 9 is a small enough number to keep it regional but large enough to cover a substantial area for exposure. It also allows many opportunities for OOC games that are critical to each program.

For example, in a 9 team conference, Duke could be in conference with other elite private schools, like Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vandy, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College, Miami, and someone else (Georgetown, Baylor, Navy, etc.). Duke would have 8 football games against those opponents, so they could still play UNC, UVA, and whoever else they consider important to their rivalries and purposes. There are a lot of great possibilities that would allow cultural fit to reign supreme. Here are a few at the top that are intriguing:

PAC - Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Utah, Colorado

SEC - Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina

Big 10 - Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan

Big East - Ohio State, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, West Virginia

Elite - Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Miami, Duke, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College, Baylor

ACC - Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, Auburn, Georgia Tech, FSU, Clemson, NC State, Texas Tech

Mid-American - Kansas State, Iowa State, Purdue, Louisville, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, UConn, Cincinnati

MWC - Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, San Diego State, UNLV, Hawaii, Utah State, Colorado State, New Mexico

I may have accidentally missed a team, so apologies, but you get the idea. I know there is initial drama, like seeing Ohio State with more eastern teams. Remember, though, that they have 4 OOC games in this setup. They can still play Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois every year if they want to. Same idea for everybody else. Notre Dame can still play USC, Stanford, and Navy every year.

Well, there is my ideal.

Some interesting ideas here , and you've certainly mixed it up more than many attempts to create an overall listing. My own uses 10-team conferences rather than 9:

Eastern:
Boston College
Cincinnati
UConn
Louisville
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

ACC:
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

SEC:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Southern:
Alabama-Birmingham
Central Florida
East Carolina
Marshall
Memphis
Miami (FL)
South Carolina
South Florida
Southern Miss
Tulane

MAC:
Akron
Ball State
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Kent State
Miami (OH)
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Western Michigan

Big 10:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas

SWC:
Arkansas
Baylor
Houston
Louisiana Tech
Rice
SMU
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Tulsa
UTEP

Mountain West:
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
Fresno State
Hawaii
New Mexico
San Diego State
UNLV
Utah
Wyoming

Pac 10:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State

Independent:
Army
BYU
Navy
Notre Dame

(08-08-2013 01:47 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 02:03 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:18 PM)whitey Wrote:  

(08-03-2013 12:29 PM)john01992 Wrote:  if you could build a conference from scratch how would you do it?

for me it would be the current big 10 plus syracuse & colorado (feeding my homerism)

Give ECU the same $$$ that the P5 gets & we would beat all of your a$$es.

Give??? You do know that most top tier programs at some point in their history took the big step up because of private donors, right?. ECU has that ability right now if the alumni so choose. Every other dime that the top tier schools are "given" is a voluntary purchase by a fan, a contracted amount by a media or merchandising outlet that is based on perceived or actual value, and a small percentage may be money from the State for public schools. In your case, you can complain to the state of North Carolina. In my life, every time I've had someone say to "give" me a chance, I've been burned. Go earn it. There are a few good ECU posters on here, but most of you choose to talk in ways that is unbecoming and further reinforces negative impressions from P5 folks. It is classic small man's syndrome.

Who is John Galt.....
(i hope at least someone picks up on the reference, and before anyone gets all pissy, its not a knock on anyone)

Ha! Fair enough... you caught me.