http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...mains-same

Just like NBC partnering up with the AFL at the time, one administrator characterized a non-BCS playoff this way: "You only need one network to love you."

I can think of one at the moment -- Fox Sports 1 debuting this month -- that would be drooling all over itself at such a prospect.

Will it happen with the likes of Conference USA, the MAC, Sun Belt, American and the Mountain West?

It would only (kinda) work if all G5 conferences were a part of it. If The MWC and AAC are included with the P5 or simply think they're above it, it is a worthless idea.

Not no, but HELL NO!

Would you be okay with earning minimum wage? Maybe sitting on the porch drinking Old English? Serfdom?

FK Dat!

No....Been there, Done that, Won it twice.

You want a playoff run go to a IAA conference.

No thanks

Well, it may come to pass whether we like it or not.

How is it any different than what we have now. If we are lucky, our team has a dream season and gets into the BCS only to get trounced by a SEC team.

I would much rather see the mid majors through their own playoff than to see the SEC play against each other a few more times in January.

(08-03-2013 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Well, it may come to pass whether we like it or not.

How is it any different than what we have now. If we are lucky, our team has a dream season and gets into the BCS only to get trounced by a SEC team.

I would much rather see the mid majors through their own playoff than to see the SEC play against each other a few more times in January.

Ask Boise State, utah (pre cartel days) and tcu (pre cartel days) just how bad they got "trounced". I believe the non included schools are either 5-3 or 4-4 in the BCS bowls.

Utah beat the **** out of the Criminal Tide in the Sugar Bowl.

How does it have nothing to do with this site. He basically just ask if we wanted to be IAA conference. So no thanks. Have already done that.

The guy has down he roots for the PAC 12. So its sarcastic and condescending as well.

Marshall should have up to 4 IAA championships. In 1991 and 1993 it was proven that Jim Tressel was paying QB Ray Isaac and LB Kevin Brown. You take those 2 out and YSU never even makes the playoffs.

The article also contains an interview with UTSA Head Coach Larry Coker.

Not a fan of the idea. And it's completely erroneous for the article to compare it to the NFL and AFL. The NFL and AFL eventually merged. I think it's very likely that if they did establish a separate playoff system for the smaller BCS programs, it's the first step toward creating a permanent rift. Now, that rift may happen regardless, but let's not encourage it...lol. I say leave it as it is now, with the 'best of the best' competing for national titles, and the also-rans playing each other in the rest of the bowl games.

All the crap that's going on right now with the NCAA changes is getting annoying anyway. It's about time we have at least a measure of consistency again for a while in everything that's going on, rather than changing it even more. Besides, with the 62 schools that comprise the "Big 5" vying for their tournament, who among the casual observers would really care about who's best from #63 on down? It would be viewed as nothing more than a tournament to see who can be called #63. And how lame would that be?

A separate tournament would do NOTHING for our image. At least if we keep the status quo, there'll be a select few competing for the national title, and the rest of the schools (whether Big 5 or otherwise) would still all be lumped into the rest of the bowl games. And yeah, I know the Big 5 will still get the bigger payouts in the bigger bowls, but I can almost guarantee you the perception would be different, and more beneficial to us that way, than to have separate tournaments.

(08-03-2013 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I. Well, it may come to pass whether we like it or not.

II. How is it any different than what we have now. If we are lucky, our team has a dream season and gets into the BCS only to get trounced by a SEC team.

III. I would much rather see the mid majors through their own playoff than to see the SEC play against each other a few more times in January.

I. So, that getting shoved up your arse is okay???? No, it's not.

II. hmmm, no playoff to date, all on 'equal' footing with equal voting privelages, RECRUITING....wait, did I mention RECRUITING

III. Hey Watson, you forgot how to discover a clue. Only you have the ability to turn the channel (oops, push the button now). Jeepers, how the media coupled with the cash cow controls the mind of 'want'....am continually amazed.

...you asked would 'we' support it

(08-03-2013 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Well, it may come to pass whether we like it or not.

How is it any different than what we have now. If we are lucky, our team has a dream season and gets into the BCS only to get trounced by a SEC team.

I would much rather see the mid majors through their own playoff than to see the SEC play against each other a few more times in January.

its called the FCS

Not now, but you can't rule it out for the future. Let's be honest, if the B5 are successful at breaking away and setting scheduling agreements that exclude G5 and FCS schools what would really be the next step for us?

Like it or not, making the playoffs and advancing through them is a heck of a lot of fun. The TV contract could be very lucrative, and given the hit many teams will take from not getting paid to play B5 schools anymore, the extra cash could be useful.

(08-03-2013 02:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Not now, but you can't rule it out for the future. Let's be honest, if the B5 are successful at breaking away and setting scheduling agreements that exclude G5 and FCS schools what would really be the next step for us?

Like it or not, making the playoffs and advancing through them is a heck of a lot of fun. The TV contract could be very lucrative, and given the hit many teams will take from not getting paid to play B5 schools anymore, the extra cash could be useful.

Yep, woman's basketball is fun to watch too....holy crap. Shirley, you have a JUCO squad you could support.

You really came with "very lucrative"???? LMFAO ....would love to see that source provide really, really, really, really, major dollars just for fill time....my neck is sore due to the weight of the "lunatics are in my head"

(08-03-2013 02:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-03-2013 02:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Not now, but you can't rule it out for the future. Let's be honest, if the B5 are successful at breaking away and setting scheduling agreements that exclude G5 and FCS schools what would really be the next step for us?

Like it or not, making the playoffs and advancing through them is a heck of a lot of fun. The TV contract could be very lucrative, and given the hit many teams will take from not getting paid to play B5 schools anymore, the extra cash could be useful.

Yep, woman's basketball is fun to watch too....holy crap. Shirley, you have a JUCO squad you could support.

You really came with "very lucrative"???? LMFAO ....would love to see that source provide really, really, really, really, major dollars just for fill time....just hanging my head due to the weight of the "lunatics are in my head"

No lunatics in your head, you're right on target, as always. I suppose that there could be "worst case" scenario where we were forced to do something on "our own" but that seems to be a far cry from anything being proposed at this point. There would have to be a lot of hurdles and hoops jumped before we were completely locked out of any access and I can't see a political climate that would make that easy, especially since recent statements downplay those guys leaving the NCAA.

IMHO, having a playoff for non D4 programs merely gives them what they seek with us getting out of their way without a whimper.

...just one fan's opinion.

(08-03-2013 02:43 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(08-03-2013 02:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-03-2013 02:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Not now, but you can't rule it out for the future. Let's be honest, if the B5 are successful at breaking away and setting scheduling agreements that exclude G5 and FCS schools what would really be the next step for us?

Like it or not, making the playoffs and advancing through them is a heck of a lot of fun. The TV contract could be very lucrative, and given the hit many teams will take from not getting paid to play B5 schools anymore, the extra cash could be useful.

Yep, woman's basketball is fun to watch too....holy crap. Shirley, you have a JUCO squad you could support.

You really came with "very lucrative"???? LMFAO ....would love to see that source provide really, really, really, really, major dollars just for fill time....just hanging my head due to the weight of the "lunatics are in my head"

No lunatics in your head, you're right on target, as always. I suppose that there could be "worst case" scenario where we were forced to do something on "our own" but that seems to be a far cry from anything being proposed at this point. There would have to be a lot of hurdles and hoops jumped before we were completely locked out of any access and I can't see a political climate that would make that easy, especially since recent statements downplay those guys leaving the NCAA.

IMHO, having a playoff for non D4 programs merely gives them what they seek with us getting out of their way without a whimper.

...just one fan's opinion.

I don't think we are alone and this was obviously started as a troll thread. However, I think it is an important topic worthy of discussion.

It pains me that this is being discussed by the mediaturds.

The word that comes to mind is 'HOPE' when I look back on the history of our program and others like us.

This type of scenario destroys that. The recoil effect would be devastating to a large number of schools. The negative macro/socio/economic impact would be immeasurable.

If this actually came to fruition, we would be 44 point dogs instead of 16' when we play an SEC team....hell, we wouldn't be able to beat Indiana or Virginia or LSU or Auburn or Bama or TCU or Nebraska or.... (well, we just can't seem to beat Boise dangit)

....it all trickles downhill

It would only strengthen the P5 argument to break away.

They could easily say "See NCAA, they (G5) are already on their own. So go ahead and grant us our own status, and everyone will be happy. All fixed.."

It's a FBS playoff for non-AQ schools. In the BCS only 2-4 out of 73 schools could play for a BCS title. It would be hard for the other schools to play a bowl game against the best non-AQ teams, if they are participating in non-AQ playoff for the FBS NCAA National Championship.