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Conferences that were once talked about
Here, list the conferences once talked about back in the day.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
Not one, but one I want:

Northwestern
Duke
Vandy
Wake Forest
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Notre Dame

Georgetown and Villanova can join if they invest in football.
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as a syracuse fan i like it
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
Originally, the SWC was going to look like this:

UT-Austin
Texas A&M
Baylor
Rice
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Ole Miss
LSU

Ole Miss and LSU weren't interested so Southwestern and Oklahoma A&M (now OSU) were tapped to replace them and the SWC was born.

SU only stayed for a year and then left. Oklahoma played 4 years then left for the MVC while OSU stayed a full 10 years in the SWC before rejoining OU and SMU, TCU and Phillips replaced them. Phillips left after only a single year and would not be replaced until TTU was added almost 40 years later.

The conference reached its full 9 team membership when UH joined 30 years after Tech. 20 years later, the conference was dead and buried in 1996.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
In the very early 1990's (prior to 1992) when the SEC stood at 10 schools there was some talk of a 20 team conference, just talk mind you, but one that would by today's standards have been fairly awesome even if the television demographics would not have been optimized.

The conference in those days consisted of:
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee and Vanderbilt.

The talk was to add:
Clemson, Florida, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, N.C. State, South Carolina from the East and Arkansas, Texas, and Texas A&M from the West.

It was a pipe dream then and it is still just a pipe dream.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
The much fabled Eastern Sport Conference was going to be this.
Boston College
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Penn State
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Virginia Tech

It was derailed over football revenue sharing.
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(07-31-2013 07:47 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  The much fabled Eastern Sport Conference was going to be this.
Boston College
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Penn State
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Virginia Tech

It was derailed over football revenue sharing.

Then that conference could have expanded today with UConn and Louisville.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
I mentioned this in my 'Funny conference affiliations from long ago' thread, but here are some:

Airplane Conference (late fifties):
Washington
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Air Force
Notre Dame
UPenn
Penn State
Army
Navy
Duke
GT

Magnolia Conference (early sixties):
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Vanderbilt
Duke

The first didn't happen because the Pentagon rejected the idea; without the support of the academies the plan fell apart. But boy, what an appropriate title for the conference! It makes the Big East with Boise State and SDSU look like the MAC.

I really like the idea of the Magnolia Conference as a Southern Ivy League. It would've had a lot of potential, and I imagine that over time they would've added Baylor, TCU, Tulsa, the U, and Wake Forest (if they really wanted to follow through and expand it to become a DI Ivy League, they might've went after BYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Syracuse, and BC). Never happened because Rice and SMU didn't want to give up their Cotton Bowl revenue, while Duke didn't want to give up their UNC rivalry.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
Back in 1981 with most of the Southland and Missouri Valley shunted to I-AA, Tulsa, Wichita State, McNeese State, Louisiana, and Southern Miss talked of forming a conference but in the end needed one or both of Arkansas State and Louisiana Tech to successfully get a waiver to play 1982 as a I-A for it to happen. Bear Bryant lobbied for Arkansas State's waiver (head coach and AD Larry Lacewell was a former assistant and son of Bryant's best friend in high school). At the end of the vote ASU came up short (receiving a no from 8 SWC schools with only Arkansas voting yes, the only conference that did not give ASU at least three yes votes). La Tech ended up about 20 votes short.

With a few more yes votes, the new league would have formed as a football only league and McNeese State would not have voluntarily reclassified I-AA joining Yale as the only voluntary reclassification in 1981.
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Raycom's Conference Proposal 1990. Metro Conference + Eastern Independents.

Cincinnati
Florida State
Louisville
Memphis
South Carolina
Southern Miss
Tulane
Virginia Tech

Boston College
East Carolina
Miami
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

All 16 AD's of the schools met in Dallas to discuss the proposal

. A year later FSU would join the ACC, South Carolina the SEC, and BC, Miami, Pitt, RU, SU, Temple, WVU, and VT would form the Big East.
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My dream conference.

Bc
Cuse
Pitt
Temple
Duke
Wake
Miami
Vandy
Nwestern
Vt
Gt
Tulane
SMU
Rice
Baylor
Nd
Navy
Army
Af
Byu
Tulsa

That's a great 20 team league full of all the drags that should not be allowed to play with the real colleges that run athletics. F them all.
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
(07-31-2013 09:59 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Raycom's Conference Proposal 1990. Metro Conference + Eastern Independents.

Cincinnati
Florida State
Louisville
Memphis
South Carolina
Southern Miss
Tulane
Virginia Tech

Boston College
East Carolina
Miami
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

All 16 AD's of the schools met in Dallas to discuss the proposal.
I remember it like it was yesterday.

It could've worked, but the the idea of a 16-team league was just too radical, too different, for that time. I don't think any league of the NCAA had more than 10 teams at that point in time. The expansion of the Big Ten to include Penn State -- thus making an 11-team conference -- seemed edgy when it was first announced. Obviously, things have changed a lot since then.

It's interesting to look at that list of 16 schools and see where they are now. Once the currently-scheduled changes take place next year, you would have:

ACC -- 7 (Boston College, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia Tech)
American -- 5 (Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis, Temple, Tulane)
B1G -- 1 (Rutgers)
Big <XII -- 1 (West Virginia)
C-USA -- 1 (Southern Miss)
SEC -- 1 (South Carolina)
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RE: Conferences that were once talked about
How about the 16 Mount-USA that was up to be created only a few years ago. Man was that idea a bunch of BS.....

West: Nevada, Fresno, Hawaii, Wyoming, Col St, AFA, New Mexico, UTEP
East: Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis, UAB, So Miss, Marshall, East Carolina

Once Memphis left and CUSA made the deal to bring in LaTech, UTSA, FIU and UNT the whole idea was pretty much cooked and no longer made sense though it was still pushed until Boise/SDSU returned to the MWC.

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As I mentioned in another thread. Arkansas organized a meeting of Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Nebraska. They thought the Arkansas idea of the league forming and cutting its own TV deal outside the CFA was ridiculous.
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(07-31-2013 10:24 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about the 16 Mount-USA that was up to be created only a few years ago. Man was that idea a bunch of BS.....

West: Nevada, Fresno, Hawaii, Wyoming, Col St, AFA, New Mexico, UTEP
East: Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis, UAB, So Miss, Marshall, East Carolina

Once Memphis left and CUSA made the deal to bring in LaTech, UTSA, FIU and UNT the whole idea was pretty much cooked and no longer made sense though it was still pushed until Boise/SDSU returned to the MWC.

The reason it didn't happen is because the conference champion was not going to get a BCS berth, and there would be only 1 auto-bid to March Madness, not two. So there was nothing to be gained by it. Memphis leaving had Nothing to do with it.
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(07-31-2013 10:28 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(07-31-2013 10:24 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about the 16 Mount-USA that was up to be created only a few years ago. Man was that idea a bunch of BS.....

West: Nevada, Fresno, Hawaii, Wyoming, Col St, AFA, New Mexico, UTEP
East: Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis, UAB, So Miss, Marshall, East Carolina

Once Memphis left and CUSA made the deal to bring in LaTech, UTSA, FIU and UNT the whole idea was pretty much cooked and no longer made sense though it was still pushed until Boise/SDSU returned to the MWC.

The reason it didn't happen is because the conference champion was not going to get a BCS berth, and there would be only 1 auto-bid to March Madness, not two. So there was nothing to be gained by it. Memphis leaving had Nothing to do with it.

The fact of no BCS berth and 1 automatic bid being a deal killer should have been obvious before discussions ever took place, let alone announcing a deal to merge in principal on the conference websites.

Memphis was an attractive team for the MWC schools to link up with in a possible 16-18 conference. A merger with LaTech, UTSA, FIU, UNT was less favorable than just adding Utah State and SJSU to stand pat at 10 members. CUSA screwed itself by over expanding.
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(07-31-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(07-31-2013 07:47 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  The much fabled Eastern Sport Conference was going to be this.
Boston College
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Penn State
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Virginia Tech

It was derailed over football revenue sharing.

Then that conference could have expanded today with UConn and Louisville.

FIFI

Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Penn State
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
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(07-31-2013 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  In the very early 1990's (prior to 1992) when the SEC stood at 10 schools there was some talk of a 20 team conference, just talk mind you, but one that would by today's standards have been fairly awesome even if the television demographics would not have been optimized.

The conference in those days consisted of:
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee and Vanderbilt.

The talk was to add:
Clemson, Florida, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, N.C. State, South Carolina from the East and Arkansas, Texas, and Texas A&M from the West.

It was a pipe dream then and it is still just a pipe dream.

Wow, that would have been awesome. UK was left out of that list, by the way. Considering our football history, it is forgivable since we are pretty forgettable 04-cheers
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