16 seed will probably be ODU. Blaine Taylor left a mess of a roster that should take years to recover from.

(07-29-2013 08:25 PM)backrow Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 07:33 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  I assume that it would have been 15 instead of 16 since FIU is ineligible due to APR stuff.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketb...tional-apr

I (don't) have a problem with that. It seems to (push) punish academic integrity and (doesn't) look(s) the other way with what are becoming athletic diploma mills. Just (don't) pass them all "the Carolina way" and then (don't) be holier than thou and self-righteous about your phony graduation rate:

http://deadspin.com/5961550/unc-academic...d-cheating

I really don't think MemTGRS meant to say that f_us are diploma mills!

And I corrected his post for him.

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No, I did not. I was 100% defending FIU. And I apologize to any/all Panthers' fans if my text confused in that direction.

I was targeting UNC[color=#87CEFA] on that. I have a problem that FIU is excluded because they did NOT simply pass players, unlilke North Carolina. And UNC will probably still emerge with this grand reputation and commence pointing fingers at everybody else.

(07-29-2013 09:31 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 08:25 PM)backrow Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 07:33 PM)MemTGRS Wrote:  I assume that it would have been 15 instead of 16 since FIU is ineligible due to APR stuff.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketb...tional-apr

I (don't) have a problem with that. It seems to (push) punish academic integrity and (doesn't) look(s) the other way with what are becoming athletic diploma mills. Just (don't) pass them all "the Carolina way" and then (don't) be holier than thou and self-righteous about your phony graduation rate:

http://deadspin.com/5961550/unc-academic...d-cheating

I really don't think MemTGRS meant to say that f_us are diploma mills!

And I corrected his post for him.

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No, I did not. I was 100% defending FIU. And I apologize to any/all Panthers' fans if my text confused in that direction.

I was targeting UNC[color=#87CEFA] on that. I have a problem that FIU is excluded because they did NOT simply pass players, unlilke North Carolina. And UNC will probably still emerge with this grand reputation and commence pointing fingers at everybody else.

I fully understood you post, backrow's edits were a little confusing. No harm, no foul.

nope odu for the 16 seed. Well get it alone. And well argue that point. Blaine left us a mess. We won't be back to fighting on the court for at least three years. He did a number on the program. Jj let's see how he does and if he does. Bright light our assistants. The only way we get to the tournament is if we host it.

So far removed from the butler game...woke up and the lights haven't come back on yet.

i'm not a fan of all 16... and I'm not a fan of the double bye either. A top ranked team could lose a lot of momentum, or a lower ranked team could get hot way too quickly.

(07-29-2013 04:55 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 04:50 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  It should be 12. There needs to be a reward for finishing in the top 4.

but the problem is you reward teams that might not deserve it as bad as these divisions have been since we went to the division format. Teams out west were getting to play 330 ranked Rice twice and multiple 200+ teams while in the east teams got top 30 Memphis and USM twice. Skewed up crap. Nothings ever apples to oranges in these conference anymore and some team that may have been better might have played in the tougher division and not eve make it to the tourny at 12 teams.

Wait? CUSA doesn't have divisions in basketball.

(07-29-2013 02:29 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  After the conference Spring Meetings, a press release announced the following:

Quote:Originally, the Conference USA basketball tournaments were going to have the top 12 of 16 teams in the tournament, but now it looks like all 16 will participate.

1 - Having all 16 teams for men's and women's basketball participate in the C-USA Basketball Championship, making it a five-day format.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/...sprin.html

Today's UAB press release announcing the 2013-14 conference schedule states:

Quote:The upcoming C-USA schedule culminates with the 2014 Conference USA Tournament, which will be played in El Paso, Texas on March 12-15. The top 12 teams in the league will receive a bid to this year's tournament, with the top four earning a first-round bye.

http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-baskbl...13aaa.html

So, the question is 12 or 16? If 12, why the reversal of the May announcement?

Can't be 16 teams as CUSA only has 14 teams.

T4 Bye
B2 NOTHING

(07-29-2013 10:48 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Can't be 16 teams as CUSA only has 14 teams.

T4 Bye
B2 NOTHING

For this season, CUSA has 16 teams:

1. UAB
2. ECU
3. MTSU
4. ODU
5. FIU
6. FAU
7. USM
8. LT
9. NT
10. UTSA
11. UTEP
12. Charlotte
13. Tulsa
14. Tulane
15. Rice
16. Marshall

(07-29-2013 02:55 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  i like 12...just because you are in the conference, doesn't mean you get to play in the tourney...you've got to weed out the really bad teams so as to not make it a week long tourney...12 is enough...

A-10 used 12 out of 16 last year and it made for a very interesting February at the bottom of the standings.

(07-29-2013 07:18 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  Let's make predictions of the 4 that don't make it. ECU, Marshall, LA Tech, and Rice.

Speak for your team,......unlike Marshall ECU finished top four in Cusa Standing and made the Cusa Tournament (MU did not), ECU has three starters returning next season, past season won 32 teams Tournament Championship, 20+ wins last season, and new $1.8 million addition to our basketball complex. ECU is well on its way in basketball and will be a pre-season pick for NIT selection if not NCAA bid. But our biggest plus for next season will be the return of Coach Lebo and Staff.

(07-29-2013 10:51 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:48 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Can't be 16 teams as CUSA only has 14 teams.

T4 Bye
B2 NOTHING

For this season, CUSA has 16 teams:

1. UAB
2. ECU
3. MTSU
4. ODU
5. FIU
6. FAU
7. USM
8. LT
9. NT
10. UTSA
11. UTEP
12. Charlotte
13. Tulsa
14. Tulane
15. Rice
16. Marshall

So EVERYONE will be in for sports other than football this year (sans WKU who joins next year then).

So does that mean that the T8 get a bye? Or no byes @ 16?

From the C-USA site.

MEN’S BASKETBALL

2013‐14 Teams (16): Charlotte, East Carolina, FIU (ineligible for postseason), Florida Atlantic, Louisiana Tech, Marshall, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Old Dominion, Rice, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA

Divisions: One

Scheduling Format: Teams play all 15 members once, as well as a home‐and‐home series against one “rival” team.

2014 Championship: March 11‐15, El Paso, Texas (Don Haskins Center)

Championship Format: Each team qualifies for the tournament, with the exception of FIU this season. The top four
seeds will receive a double‐bye, seeds five through nine receive a bye. The winner of the
single‐elimination tournament will gain the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Championship.

Reg. Season Awards: Player of the Week and Freshman of the Week. Chosen by a panel consisting of one media
member in each league city.
Postseason Awards: Player of the Year, Sixth Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Freshman of the Year,
Newcomer of the Year, Three All‐Conference Teams, All‐Defensive Team and All‐Freshman
Team. Chosen by each head coach and two media members per league city. The Coach of the
Year Award is administered by Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News and sponsored by
The Birmingham Tipoff Club. The coaches’ votes are submitted to Scarbinsky. The selection is
named during championship week. In addition there will be an All‐Academic Team selected by
the SIDs.
Championship Awards: An All‐Tournament Team of five players, which includes the Tournament MVP, as selected by
the media covering the tournament. The first and second place teams will receive trophies
and the first place team will receive individual awards.

(07-29-2013 10:42 PM)dragonzden Wrote:  Wait? CUSA doesn't have divisions in basketball.

Maybe not this season, but I assume you guys will be going back to them.

(07-30-2013 07:48 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:42 PM)dragonzden Wrote:  Wait? CUSA doesn't have divisions in basketball.

Maybe not this season, but I assume you guys will be going back to them.

I think it's fairly safe to say that nobody on this board cares what you assume.

(07-30-2013 07:48 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 10:42 PM)dragonzden Wrote:  Wait? CUSA doesn't have divisions in basketball.

Maybe not this season, but I assume you guys will be going back to them.

Not completely decided but they have mentioned using the east/west divisions for basketball and going to a 19 game C-USA schedule (12 inter-division and 7 cross-over)

(07-30-2013 12:51 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  From the C-USA site.

MEN’S BASKETBALL

2013‐14 Teams (16): Charlotte, East Carolina, FIU (ineligible for postseason), Florida Atlantic, Louisiana Tech, Marshall, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Old Dominion, Rice, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA

Divisions: One

Scheduling Format: Teams play all 15 members once, as well as a home‐and‐home series against one “rival” team.

2014 Championship: March 11‐15, El Paso, Texas (Don Haskins Center)

Championship Format: Each team qualifies for the tournament, with the exception of FIU this season. The top four
seeds will receive a double‐bye, seeds five through nine receive a bye. The winner of the
single‐elimination tournament will gain the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Championship.

Reg. Season Awards: Player of the Week and Freshman of the Week. Chosen by a panel consisting of one media
member in each league city.
Postseason Awards: Player of the Year, Sixth Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Freshman of the Year,
Newcomer of the Year, Three All‐Conference Teams, All‐Defensive Team and All‐Freshman
Team. Chosen by each head coach and two media members per league city. The Coach of the
Year Award is administered by Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News and sponsored by
The Birmingham Tipoff Club. The coaches’ votes are submitted to Scarbinsky. The selection is
named during championship week. In addition there will be an All‐Academic Team selected by
the SIDs.
Championship Awards: An All‐Tournament Team of five players, which includes the Tournament MVP, as selected by
the media covering the tournament. The first and second place teams will receive trophies
and the first place team will receive individual awards.

Good...they updated it. I couldn't find anything for 2013-14 when I looked early yesterday.

(07-30-2013 02:13 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 12:51 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  From the C-USA site.

MEN’S BASKETBALL

2013‐14 Teams (16): Charlotte, East Carolina, FIU (ineligible for postseason), Florida Atlantic, Louisiana Tech, Marshall, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Old Dominion, Rice, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA

Divisions: One

Scheduling Format: Teams play all 15 members once, as well as a home‐and‐home series against one “rival” team.

2014 Championship: March 11‐15, El Paso, Texas (Don Haskins Center)

Championship Format: Each team qualifies for the tournament, with the exception of FIU this season. The top four
seeds will receive a double‐bye, seeds five through nine receive a bye. The winner of the
single‐elimination tournament will gain the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Championship.

Reg. Season Awards: Player of the Week and Freshman of the Week. Chosen by a panel consisting of one media
member in each league city.
Postseason Awards: Player of the Year, Sixth Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Freshman of the Year,
Newcomer of the Year, Three All‐Conference Teams, All‐Defensive Team and All‐Freshman
Team. Chosen by each head coach and two media members per league city. The Coach of the
Year Award is administered by Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News and sponsored by
The Birmingham Tipoff Club. The coaches’ votes are submitted to Scarbinsky. The selection is
named during championship week. In addition there will be an All‐Academic Team selected by
the SIDs.
Championship Awards: An All‐Tournament Team of five players, which includes the Tournament MVP, as selected by
the media covering the tournament. The first and second place teams will receive trophies
and the first place team will receive individual awards.

Good...they updated it. I couldn't find anything for 2013-14 when I looked early yesterday.