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(07-28-2013 04:48 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I have no idea if any of this stuff is "from the inside" or even if it's remotely likely. But this is exactly the way UConn should be thinking.

The OP is far more forward thinking and engaged in the full range of all the issues than most of the posts we see here. UConn is a top brand name in basketball and their women's program is one of the extremely rare ones that actually is a revenue producer, making very good money. And it's money that matters regardless of how it is obtained, not football per se. Football matters only to the extent that it makes money. Therefore UConn needs to capitalize on their brand value now and not languish in the AAC, hoping that their brand name will still have value X number of years down the road.

What the OP recognizes is that there is planning and negotiating going on behind the scenes even though everything appears quiet right now. Pitt and SU to the ACC seemed to come out of nowhere. Same with Notre Dame and then Rutgers and MD to the B1G. More stuff will happen as the rest of this shakes out.

The OP is absolutely correct when he says that UConn and Cincy have another year to act with Louisville and Rutgers around for the year along with BCS status. He's also correct when he talks about the value of UConn to the Big East as a battle for MSG in the conference tournament week is looming. An affiliation with the Big East would be a win-win for both UConn and the Big East.

Predicting more movement of teams in conference realignment is always dicey, so I have zero confidence in those predictions. But I have to give the OP an "A" for effort and for the guts to take a stab at things.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was Miko posting under a different name. He loves to play the "insider" card although this is way more specific than he ever gets. His style is more to hint at things and to tease but to never let you know what his "inside info" is. Whoever it is, it's damn interesting. This reminds me of when we had the Georgetown guy who claimed to have inside info from his father who was on the board. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the same guy under a different name if it's not Miko. Then there was the guy from Georgia(?) who predicted that the C7 would break away (a year before it actually happened) and a bunch of other stuff. Turns out that he was right about the C7.

anywa, fascinating read whether it's fact of fiction or a little of both. Thanks for taking the time and effort. 04-cheers

Actually he sounds like the UConn version of MHVer3, putting out fanciful stories to start up conversations.
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(07-28-2013 04:59 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I have had several people PM me skiing if the OP is my alter ego. I assure all of you that it is not me. My info is much more reliable and conveys a lot more data to review. This scenario has too many working parts that that need to align for it to happen under a best case scenario. Realistically, it doesn't pass the rational test since there is NFW that the SEC and B1G would remotely entertain the idea of scheduling agreements with UCONN for FB games.

But. Miko, you never actually give any information. You just hint at it, but then are never forthcoming with the full scoop. So how con info, never given but only hinted at, actually be reliable? 04-cheers
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(07-28-2013 05:04 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:48 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I have no idea if any of this stuff is "from the inside" or even if it's remotely likely. But this is exactly the way UConn should be thinking.

The OP is far more forward thinking and engaged in the full range of all the issues than most of the posts we see here. UConn is a top brand name in basketball and their women's program is one of the extremely rare ones that actually is a revenue producer, making very good money. And it's money that matters regardless of how it is obtained, not football per se. Football matters only to the extent that it makes money. Therefore UConn needs to capitalize on their brand value now and not languish in the AAC, hoping that their brand name will still have value X number of years down the road.

What the OP recognizes is that there is planning and negotiating going on behind the scenes even though everything appears quiet right now. Pitt and SU to the ACC seemed to come out of nowhere. Same with Notre Dame and then Rutgers and MD to the B1G. More stuff will happen as the rest of this shakes out.

The OP is absolutely correct when he says that UConn and Cincy have another year to act with Louisville and Rutgers around for the year along with BCS status. He's also correct when he talks about the value of UConn to the Big East as a battle for MSG in the conference tournament week is looming. An affiliation with the Big East would be a win-win for both UConn and the Big East.

Predicting more movement of teams in conference realignment is always dicey, so I have zero confidence in those predictions. But I have to give the OP an "A" for effort and for the guts to take a stab at things.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was Miko posting under a different name. He loves to play the "insider" card although this is way more specific than he ever gets. His style is more to hint at things and to tease but to never let you know what his "inside info" is. Whoever it is, it's damn interesting. This reminds me of when we had the Georgetown guy who claimed to have inside info from his father who was on the board. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the same guy under a different name if it's not Miko. Then there was the guy from Georgia(?) who predicted that the C7 would break away (a year before it actually happened) and a bunch of other stuff. Turns out that he was right about the C7.

anywa, fascinating read whether it's fact of fiction or a little of both. Thanks for taking the time and effort. 04-cheers

Huh? I can't speak for Pitt, but SU and the ACC had been talking back and forth since '91, and SU even got an invite (which was later revoked) in '03. Given that SU was pretty openly dissatisfied with the BIG EAST and hoping for either a BIG TEN invite, or an ACC invite, I have no idea how you are concluding that the offer came out of nowhere.

Okay, you're right. But it's beside the point.

I wasn't suggesting that it was surprising that Pitt and SU would ever be invited, but that there was no buzz about it when it actually happened. It came without any advance warning immediately before it.

Big picture? Sure, we all knew there was a good chance it could come. Small picture? No hints leading up to the announcement. Heck, the Pitt president was turning down the ESPN TV deal like 2 weeks before.
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(07-28-2013 05:09 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:59 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I have had several people PM me skiing if the OP is my alter ego. I assure all of you that it is not me. My info is much more reliable and conveys a lot more data to review. This scenario has too many working parts that that need to align for it to happen under a best case scenario. Realistically, it doesn't pass the rational test since there is NFW that the SEC and B1G would remotely entertain the idea of scheduling agreements with UCONN for FB games.

But. Miko, you never actually give any information. You just hint at it, but then are never forthcoming with the full scoop. So how con info, never given but only hinted at, actually be reliable? 04-cheers

Not true. I give plenty of info. You simply need to pay attention.

You're welcome.
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(07-28-2013 04:18 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  1) I'm clearly confusing WCC and WAC. Simple mistake. Clowns here act like its a war breaking out.
2) This board seems to not understand what this is all about. When the p5 split there are 4 legit complaints. Bosie, BYU, UConn and Cincy. Others are not on the same level. Sorry Temple, USF, UH, Memphis, SDSU and others. It's the truth. Those 4 have a winning case. So what they do is work their butts off to create a Indy model for the 4 of them. With ND not being a full ACC member the Indy possibilities are open. The p5 by any metric can't hold these 4 back. What these 4 basically are doing is forcing either ND to be pressured to join the ACC full and cause more realignment or Indys of a certain level can join if they fit metrics wise. For ND to join the ACC means they add a 16th team. It also means that the b12 will be forced to add for a ship game also because there is no way the ACC and NDwill be forced to change without the playoff being a conference. Ship teams bid type deal. Basically force another round.
3) Poker faces are strong right now. The B12 is very vulnerable. Media rights can be moved if both media partners are happy with movement. Texas does not want any new members. It's not that a Cincy or BYU is the final x in the league to them. It's the round robin of Texas getting to play who it wants as the league whole fit now. So many close and good tradition games. They would lose some. So if they are going to lose some by the B12 adding and splitting divisions then they might as well move to a new Conference and take who they want with them.
4) You guys want a wildcard? TCU and Baylor to the ACC with UConn and ND for 18.

Why? What would the ACC gain from going to 18? What would the ACC gain from adding either TCU or Baylor? Why do you think that UCONN would get the nod for #16? I doubt SU wants UCONN, BC definitely doesn't want UCONN, FSU and Clemson don't want UCONN, and I would be amazed if any of the NC schools want UCONN. That's 8/15 ACC schools who wouldn't be in favor of adding UCONN.
*What does UCONN bring that FSU wants/needs?
*What does UCONN bring that Clemson wants/needs?
*What does UCONN bring that Duke/NCSU/Wake/UNC wants/needs?
*BC already said that they don't want UCONN, so what has happened to change their minds? (Yes, I know the BC AD retired, Calhoun retired, and UCONN is now BC's Hockey East conference mate, but none of that is hugely influential, given the institutional animosity between the two organizations.)
*And what does UCONN bring that SU can't already get by playing UCONN OOC that would make it worth SU's while to overcrowd the northeast again?

It's not like UCONN is going anywhere. The B1G just added two questionable football adds. Now is not the right time for them to add a school that has only been playing DI football for 10 years and has a stadium 25 miles from campus, especially given that CT isn't exactly a recruiting hot bed. I don't care how good UCONN basketball is, the football faction of the B1G won't let it happen. Penn State already has a regular game in NYC and DC. Now their gripe is SOS, not location. UCONN doesn't help that. Anyway, the western half of the conference is grumbling about the B1G's eastern stance. I/m not sure that the B1G will expand again without thinking long and hard about going west.
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(07-28-2013 05:12 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Okay, you're right. But it's beside the point.

I wasn't suggesting that it was surprising that Pitt and SU would ever be invited, but that there was no buzz about it when it actually happened. It came without any advance warning immediately before it.

Big picture? Sure, we all knew there was a good chance it could come. Small picture? No hints leading up to the announcement. Heck, the Pitt president was turning down the ESPN TV deal like 2 weeks before.

That's probably true. Swofford learned his lesson in '03 and toned things down a LOT. A public forum isn't the right place for business deals.
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(07-28-2013 04:48 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I have no idea if any of this stuff is "from the inside" or even if it's remotely likely. But this is exactly the way UConn should be thinking.

The OP is far more forward thinking and engaged in the full range of all the issues than most of the posts we see here.

But the difference between you and him is that you don't make up pretend "inside sources" to back specific, detailed--and wildly implausible--claims.

UConn may have made a strategic error in not moving heaven-and-earth to get into the C7 Big East. Attendance dipped last year with a second straight 5-7. What's attendance going to look like when a steady diet of Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers and Cincinatti is replaced completely with Navy, UCF, ECU, Temple, and Cincy/Memphis, SMU/Houston and Tulane/Tulsa replacing a MAC cupcake win?

But that die is cast--I'm fairly certain that the door on UConn rejoining the Big East is closed.

Remember, it's a lot easier to stay a basketball power in a mediocre conference than it is to become a nationally relevant football program in a midmajor conference.
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I don't think UConn is going anywhere, although they would fit well in the ACC of B1G. I think we're in the AAC for a while.

But the long-term, evolving plan of the B1G could work out this way:

1) Strengthen football by adding Penn State & Nebraska.
2) Strengthen the TV markets and eastern presence by adding Rutgers & Maryland.
3) Strengthen basketball (to keep up with the ACC) by adding UConn & Kansas.

I'm not saying this will happen or that it is likely. However, the B1G could do worse than a long-term strategic plan to strengthen football, markets, and basketball.
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(07-28-2013 05:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 05:09 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:59 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I have had several people PM me skiing if the OP is my alter ego. I assure all of you that it is not me. My info is much more reliable and conveys a lot more data to review. This scenario has too many working parts that that need to align for it to happen under a best case scenario. Realistically, it doesn't pass the rational test since there is NFW that the SEC and B1G would remotely entertain the idea of scheduling agreements with UCONN for FB games.

But. Miko, you never actually give any information. You just hint at it, but then are never forthcoming with the full scoop. So how con info, never given but only hinted at, actually be reliable? 04-cheers

Not true. I give plenty of info. You simply need to pay attention.

You're welcome.

Not true. Check back on your old threads. I've asked you repeatedly on various threads to provide the info you promised or hinted at and it was never forthcoming. Nothing but a big tease as far as I was concerned.

But mine is just one opinion and probably not a very good one at that. 04-cheers
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(07-28-2013 05:17 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:18 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  1) I'm clearly confusing WCC and WAC. Simple mistake. Clowns here act like its a war breaking out.
2) This board seems to not understand what this is all about. When the p5 split there are 4 legit complaints. Bosie, BYU, UConn and Cincy. Others are not on the same level. Sorry Temple, USF, UH, Memphis, SDSU and others. It's the truth. Those 4 have a winning case. So what they do is work their butts off to create a Indy model for the 4 of them. With ND not being a full ACC member the Indy possibilities are open. The p5 by any metric can't hold these 4 back. What these 4 basically are doing is forcing either ND to be pressured to join the ACC full and cause more realignment or Indys of a certain level can join if they fit metrics wise. For ND to join the ACC means they add a 16th team. It also means that the b12 will be forced to add for a ship game also because there is no way the ACC and NDwill be forced to change without the playoff being a conference. Ship teams bid type deal. Basically force another round.
3) Poker faces are strong right now. The B12 is very vulnerable. Media rights can be moved if both media partners are happy with movement. Texas does not want any new members. It's not that a Cincy or BYU is the final x in the league to them. It's the round robin of Texas getting to play who it wants as the league whole fit now. So many close and good tradition games. They would lose some. So if they are going to lose some by the B12 adding and splitting divisions then they might as well move to a new Conference and take who they want with them.
4) You guys want a wildcard? TCU and Baylor to the ACC with UConn and ND for 18.

Why? What would the ACC gain from going to 18? What would the ACC gain from adding either TCU or Baylor? Why do you think that UCONN would get the nod for #16? I doubt SU wants UCONN, BC definitely doesn't want UCONN, FSU and Clemson don't want UCONN, and I would be amazed if any of the NC schools want UCONN. That's 8/15 ACC schools who wouldn't be in favor of adding UCONN.
*What does UCONN bring that FSU wants/needs?
*What does UCONN bring that Clemson wants/needs?
*What does UCONN bring that Duke/NCSU/Wake/UNC wants/needs?
*BC already said that they don't want UCONN, so what has happened to change their minds? (Yes, I know the BC AD retired, Calhoun retired, and UCONN is now BC's Hockey East conference mate, but none of that is hugely influential, given the institutional animosity between the two organizations.)
*And what does UCONN bring that SU can't already get by playing UCONN OOC that would make it worth SU's while to overcrowd the northeast again?

It's hard to know if you're being serious or if you're just stirring the pot. 05-stirthepot

To what UConn adds that would benefit Syracuse, all you have to do is listen to your own basketball coach.

1. A conference mate who is within reasonable traveling distance
2. A traditional rival.

As for the Northeast being overcrowded, you definitely can't be serious. The Northeast is the least crowded of any region of the country. Consider the following:

1. Syracuse is the only P5 school in the state of NY. Florida has 3 in a state with the same population.
2. New England with a population of 14 million has 1 P5 team. Georgia with a population of 10 million has 2.
3. New Jersey with a population larger than Virginia has 1 P5 team. Virginia has 2.
4. Pennsylvania with a population of almost 13 million has 2 P5 teams. North Carolina with a population of less than 10 million has 4.

The Southeast is the region that's overcrowded, not the Northeast.
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(07-28-2013 05:25 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:48 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I have no idea if any of this stuff is "from the inside" or even if it's remotely likely. But this is exactly the way UConn should be thinking.

The OP is far more forward thinking and engaged in the full range of all the issues than most of the posts we see here.

But the difference between you and him is that you don't make up pretend "inside sources" to back specific, detailed--and wildly implausible--claims.

UConn may have made a strategic error in not moving heaven-and-earth to get into the C7 Big East. Attendance dipped last year with a second straight 5-7. What's attendance going to look like when a steady diet of Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers and Cincinatti is replaced completely with Navy, UCF, ECU, Temple, and Cincy/Memphis, SMU/Houston and Tulane/Tulsa replacing a MAC cupcake win?

But that die is cast--I'm fairly certain that the door on UConn rejoining the Big East is closed.

Remember, it's a lot easier to stay a basketball power in a mediocre conference than it is to become a nationally relevant football program in a midmajor conference.

All good points. I shudder to think of the consequences. 03-banghead

Fortunately I also have a rooting interest in Providence.
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(07-28-2013 12:55 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  1) Uconn has a brand far above the AAC.

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(07-28-2013 06:00 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  As for the Northeast being overcrowded, you definitely can't be serious. The Northeast is the least crowded of any region of the country. Consider the following:

.............

The southeast is the region that's overcrowded, not the Northeast.

The southeast isn't overcrowded and the northeast isn't undercrowded. Both have the P5 schools that fan interest merits.
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(07-28-2013 06:21 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 12:55 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  1) Uconn has a brand far above the AAC.

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Why is THAT the single line you take issue with in his entire mammoth fiction piece? UConn has recent national championships and Final Fours in men's basketball, a women's basketball team that generates revenue and mild national attention, and a recent BCS bowl trip.

Compare that to the AAC, which is basically best known for stumbling from embarrassment to failure to punching bag. They'll do better on the field than they have off of it, but you basically can't do worse than they've done off of it, and until the games start off-the-field is all they have.
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(07-28-2013 06:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 06:00 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  As for the Northeast being overcrowded, you definitely can't be serious. The Northeast is the least crowded of any region of the country. Consider the following:

.............

The southeast is the region that's overcrowded, not the Northeast.

The southeast isn't overcrowded and the northeast isn't undercrowded. Both have the P5 schools that fan interest merits.

How do we know that? Many areas of the Northeast haven't been offered the opportunity to follow an FBS program. Without that opportunity, we have no idea whther or not fans are interested. We know that there's little interest in the products that are being offered now, but it's a watered down product and not an indication of the level of interest that would exist if conditions were changed.

As examples we have a UConn program that upgraded to FBS 9 years ago and attendance jumped from 12-15,000 for the old FCS product to 40,000 for the new FBS product.

We have seen attendance at Rutgers games jump from 27,000 at the games in the lackluster program they offered 10 years ago to 49,000 at games in the successful program they sponsor today.

I venture to say that we'd see the same jump in interest at a number of other programs if they chose to upgrade.
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(07-28-2013 05:25 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(07-28-2013 04:48 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I have no idea if any of this stuff is "from the inside" or even if it's remotely likely. But this is exactly the way UConn should be thinking.

The OP is far more forward thinking and engaged in the full range of all the issues than most of the posts we see here.

But the difference between you and him is that you don't make up pretend "inside sources" to back specific, detailed--and wildly implausible--claims.

UConn may have made a strategic error in not moving heaven-and-earth to get into the C7 Big East. Attendance dipped last year with a second straight 5-7. What's attendance going to look like when a steady diet of Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers and Cincinatti is replaced completely with Navy, UCF, ECU, Temple, and Cincy/Memphis, SMU/Houston and Tulane/Tulsa replacing a MAC cupcake win?

But that die is cast--I'm fairly certain that the door on UConn rejoining the Big East is closed.

Remember, it's a lot easier to stay a basketball power in a mediocre conference than it is to become a nationally relevant football program in a midmajor conference.

This is true, and makes me respect what Boise's done even more.
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(07-28-2013 12:55 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  This takes it up a notch. Many here seem to have doubts about UConn making $25mil like I was talking about. What you continue to not understand is what SNY was getting. Your talking both bball programs all rights as well as 6 or 7 football games a year. A high % of all those games due to agreements are vs big names and high ranked teams. SNY can then sell many of those to ESPN and Fox types and make more money. The football games came in at just under $14mil based on what was on the table. With coach shows, the spring game and some other stuff it hit $15mil. The rest was bball. For example Sny had the girls program last year tv contract wise for over $1mil. That was mostly 2nd rate games. It was UConn running train on weak teams. Any competitive game ESPN had. Sny now gets to sell those games. The girls with all the extra Geno shows and stuff are worth just North of $3mil. The rest is the boys and how deep schedule wise they go in quality. They need some layups of corse. People have to understand a few things.
1) Uconn has a brand far above the AAC. He'll its brand is worth more than half the p5 schools. Measure that however you want. IMG contact, tier 3 or whatever. It's a fact.
2) UConn lacks AAU status and is currently investing over a billion dollars to get to that status. The B1G needs AAU status.
3) The riff with the ACC is for real. But it didn't keep UConn out. The truth is simple. The ACC knows it has 2-5 years before the B1G takes a UConn type school. So adding Louisville was strategic towards the end 16. They know if ND joins UConn will be there for the taking. It's that simple. It's not that UConn has no worth or other silly rumors. It's all strategic and resumes.
4) People who do not understand tv contracts like to say silly things. If Michigan is worth $20-30 mil to the B1G this year it's because of its brand and who it plays. Now put them in the AAC. Playing Tulane, Tulsa and SMU as a northern big brand will kill that dollar amount. Is UConn, Michigan? No. But you get the idea.
5) The American has Rutgers and Lville this year so the schedule is not a total dumpster fire and also the league has a final BCS bid this year. That simply is enough for UConn to wait until 2014/15 to leave for money.

In the original talks with the Big East, UConn ends up with no conference tourney being a independent. So they can juice the regular season schedule more. They just need to win 20 games-ish to get a at large bid. The Big East knows all this but they and Fox see a huge opportunity. Fox sees $$$. They want to invite UConn and Cincy as associate type deal members. Basketball and all other sports. They are given no voting or decision power. The money and terms stays the same for leaving like I explained in the first UConn thread. Fox thinks the contract will get a huge boost from this, possibly $8mil per team. They are thinking about going to 14/16 with this move. Schools like Dayton, STL and Drake are involved. The Big East thinks that when UConn and Cincy take invites elsewhere one day they can just hold tight at 12/14 or add again based on what's best for them. A couple things to keep in mind.
1) The butler coach leaving is not a huge dagger but perception wise it hurt the league.
2) UConn not only tops the league with a final 4 threat every year but it also gives the league. Strong NYC play to hang onto MSG for at least the next couple years from the ACC. Think about it. The Big East and the ACC walk into a bar. The bartender says who ever has won more basketball championships in the past 10 years gets MSG. UConn has 7. The ACC has 5.
Note- I went 10 years back as a simple decade. Nothing picky. If you go back 15 its gets uglier...

BYU and Bosie will do this with the WAC. You now have your 4 team Indy break away to join the p5. Starting 2015 they will play each other lat 3 weeks of the schedule. Round robin style home and away by year. If you don't know, these 4 have already scheduled each other, its just moving around some dates. The kicker in all of this is a Big East vs WCC tv matchup challenge coming soon. I told you Fox is not playing around. $ is being made.

This in the end means a small amount less money wise for UConn from its bball programs vs the SNY deal but its way better details wise. A actual conference, the tourney in MSG and other things. It makes sense. It easily keeps them alive until the B1G or ACC finally invite them. The Big East gains a lot also. Maybe the most underrated part of it simply is the league with UConn gets a real boost in its new life to help the brand and league last longterm. That can't be overlooked from a pure long run Heath of the league standpoint.

If your asking me long term what might happen I would say this:
-ND joins the ACC full time as the breakaway and playoff forces it in time.
-UConn gets a ACC invite. It's now or never for the B1G.
-B1G adds UConn, Mizzu, Kansas and Virginia.
-SEC adds WVU.
-B12 adds UH, Memphis, USF, UCF, Tulane, ECU, SMU and Tulsa.
-ACC adds Cincy and Temple.
-SEC adds FSU, GT, Clemson, UNC, NCST and VT.
-Notre Dame knows they caused all of this. They will be ok though.
-B1G has to answer the SEC and pulls in OK and Texas.
-PAC adds TT, OKst, Kst, Ist, BYU and Bosie.
-ACC now is ND, Lville, BC, Wake, Duke, Miami, Cuse, Pitt, Temple, Cincy. They add Baylor and TCU for 12 and sit. Eventually they add what's left of the B12.
BE becomes the new 10 + Dayton, STL, Drake, Zaga, STM, FU, Siena, HC, LMU and Pepper.

05-stirthepot04-cheers04-rockCOGS

What a lot of wasted effort and only to lose credibility.
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RE: The Big East & Fox have countered UConn
It is certainly something that would be cool if it actually came to fruition. For Cincinnati, I do not think it would be too hard.

1. Miami (OH)- alternate H/H or play it at Paul Brown yearly
2. MAC school #2- upper tier: either a H/H or a 2/1 with UC getting two home games. (like Toledo)
3. MAC school #3- lower tier: 2/1 or a 3/1 (like Akron)
4. B1G School #1- Upper tier: already have Nebraska, OSU and Michigan on future schedules. Could be a 2/1 at the B1G school with Cincinnati's home game at PBS
5. B1G School #2- Lower tier: a H/H with a school like Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, etc
6. Local Rival- Louisville, Pittsburgh, Va Tech, West Virginia, or any other former BE opponent.
7. Out of region P5 (or MWC) series with a MWC school, lower tier Big 12 or Pac 12 school (like Oregon State, Texas Tech, Fresno, Wyoming,etc)
8-12. Navy, Army, UConn, BYU, Boise State

That certainly looks better than the American conference slate....

Oh well, back to reality 07-coffee3
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RE: The Big East & Fox have countered UConn
i dont mean to feed the troll.....

-but if theres a network that is willing to overpay for a school........it would be foxsports

-and uconn does have some good sports to offer although their football is terrible

however......

-hell will freeze over before uconn gets a 25 mill a year payout and finds a way to get a full schedule as an indy.

-the big east is a pipe dream- those schools can hold a grudge and uconn is an easy school to hold a grudge against

-and for the love of god stop with these massive xyz plans. we already saw that with fsu/b12 homers and they turned out to be made up bullsh!t. conference realignment is not one massive conspiracy theory. its a select few making a quick, rash decision that sets up a chain reaction of other moves
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