Quote:I LEARNED that my 16-year-old grandson, Abdulrahman —a United States citizen —had been killed by an American drone strike from news reports the morning after he died. The missile killed him, his teenage cousin and at least five other civilians on Oct. 14, 2011, while the boys were eating dinner at an open-air restaurant in southern Yemen. I visited the site later, once I was able to bear the pain of seeing where he sat in his final moments. Local residents told me his body was blown to pieces. They showed me the grave where they buried his remains. I stood over it, asking why my grandchild was dead. Nearly two years later, I still have no answers. The United States government has refused to explain why Abdulrahman was killed.

Quote:A country that believes it does not even need to answer for killing its own is not the America I once knew.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opi...ndson.html

Meanwhile, the Obama Administration was displaying its belief that the executive branch providing checks and balances for the executive branch is sufficient.

Quote:Judge Collyer said she was “troubled” by the government’s assertion that it could kill American citizens it designated as dangerous, with no role for courts to review the decision. “Are you saying that a U.S. citizen targeted by the United States in a foreign country has no constitutional rights?” she asked Brian Hauck, a deputy assistant attorney general. “How broadly are you asserting the right of the United States to target an American citizen? Where is the limit to this?”

Quote:Mr. Hauck acknowledged that Americans targeted overseas do have rights, but he said they could not be enforced in court either before or after the Americans were killed. Judges, he suggested, have neither the expertise nor the tools necessary to assess the danger posed by terrorists, the feasibility of capturing them or when and how they should be killed. “Courts don’t have the apparatus to analyze” such issues, so they must be left to the executive branch, with oversight by Congress, Mr. Hauck said. But he argued, as Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has in the past, that there are multiple “checks” inside the executive branch to make sure such killings are legally justified.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/us/...lings.html

Think about that. It is the Obama Administration's view that your "rights" cannot be enforced in courts. If that's true, do these "rights" really exist?

(07-20-2013 07:05 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Think about that. It is the Obama Administration's view that your "rights" cannot be enforced in courts. If that's true, do these "rights" really exist?

Let's put the shoe on the other foot - if "Americans" rights aren't accountable by courts while they are overseas, then is Obama also fair game while he is overseas?

Yeah, that's deep.

Correction: July 20, 2013


Because of an editing error, an Op-Ed on Thursday incorrectly described Anwar al-Awlaki, the writer’s son, at the time of a lawsuit challenging the government’s targeted-killing program. He was alive when the suit was dismissed, not dead.

I do not understand the above correction that was added to the piece yesterday.
The son is dead now as of 9/30/2011, but grandson was killed 10/14/2011?
But son was suing USA for grandson's dead, but was alive, but really was Not?
This doesn't make any sense. Son was killed before the grandson. Says son was :
In 2010, the Obama administration put Abdulrahman’s father, my son Anwar, on C.I.A. and Pentagon “kill lists” of suspected terrorists targeted for death. A drone took his life on Sept. 30, 2011

Something is messed up there.

(07-21-2013 12:25 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Correction: July 20, 2013


Because of an editing error, an Op-Ed on Thursday incorrectly described Anwar al-Awlaki, the writer’s son, at the time of a lawsuit challenging the government’s targeted-killing program. He was alive when the suit was dismissed, not dead.

I do not understand the above correction that was added to the piece yesterday.
The son is dead now as of 9/30/2011, but grandson was killed 10/14/2011?
But son was suing USA for grandson's dead, but was alive, but really was Not?
This doesn't make any sense. Son was killed before the grandson. Says son was :
In 2010, the Obama administration put Abdulrahman’s father, my son Anwar, on C.I.A. and Pentagon “kill lists” of suspected terrorists targeted for death. A drone took his life on Sept. 30, 2011

Something is messed up there.

Go watch Chinatown... that may clear some things up...

(07-22-2013 11:51 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 12:25 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Correction: July 20, 2013


Because of an editing error, an Op-Ed on Thursday incorrectly described Anwar al-Awlaki, the writer’s son, at the time of a lawsuit challenging the government’s targeted-killing program. He was alive when the suit was dismissed, not dead.

I do not understand the above correction that was added to the piece yesterday.
The son is dead now as of 9/30/2011, but grandson was killed 10/14/2011?
But son was suing USA for grandson's dead, but was alive, but really was Not?
This doesn't make any sense. Son was killed before the grandson. Says son was :
In 2010, the Obama administration put Abdulrahman’s father, my son Anwar, on C.I.A. and Pentagon “kill lists” of suspected terrorists targeted for death. A drone took his life on Sept. 30, 2011

Something is messed up there.

Go watch Chinatown... that may clear some things up...

The old 1974 movie?
Have seen it.
No explanation comes to mind.