Local TV deals are good for the whole conference. I know Birmingham stations have picked up a couple of the UAB @ ECU games. Maybe more local C-USA stations will pick up the WCCB broadcasts.

(07-19-2013 09:21 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Local TV deals are good for the whole conference. I know Birmingham stations have picked up a couple of the UAB @ ECU games. Maybe more local C-USA stations will pick up the WCCB broadcasts.

I'm sure they will. If someone else is already footing the production costs, the cost to simply air it cannot be that expensive.

(07-19-2013 08:53 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:20 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 10:50 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  Guess there is something to this market thing afterall.... But I also guess in only works for some of them.

Not really. In CUSA 2.0 there were all but 3 schools in big markets and the only 2 schools that had local TV deals were ECU and Marshall were 2 of those 3 small market teams. Marshall lost theirs a couple years ago from what I recall. ECU was also the only school with a regional deal as well with MASN, and we are as small market as they come.

There is also different levels of market penetration. Even if the market is smaller I would think more eyes watch the NBC affilate where we have our local games than the CW or WB affilate for example. It's still a very good deal for Charlotte though when you look around and see how few teams at this level actually have TV deals at all even if there were some unusal circumstances left this station needing programing. They are only one of a handful of schools with their own TV deal.

I was wondering how many schools in C-USA and FCS had deals like this.

I am very pumped about this news and I am sure affiliates in other markets will be able to purchase these games to show locally. Hopefully we can get into the Triangle for a few games like the NC Central game.

With ESPNU's headquarters in Charlotte and Fox Sports 1 soon to have an office within a few miles of campus (currently SPEED Channel) I am excited about the future opportunities.

Fortunately, you might be able to for the NCCU game, but unfortunately, as long as the traditional CUSA tv deal exists, you will not be able to show games outside of your tv market unless it is in the opposing team's tv market. It relates to the deal they give CBS College Sports I believe to resale games to stations like CSS or MASN for third tier rights. While a team can sale their third tier rights, it can only be in the tv market or markets of the teams playing.

I always wish that CUSA had allowed the schools to sale tv third tier games out of their tv markets as schools like ECU would have and possibly UNCC might have gotten a Raleigh-Durham tv station that did not have the ACC or SEC regional third tier tv deals to pick them up.

(07-19-2013 11:38 AM)ECUgradstudent Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:53 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:20 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 10:50 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  Guess there is something to this market thing afterall.... But I also guess in only works for some of them.

Not really. In CUSA 2.0 there were all but 3 schools in big markets and the only 2 schools that had local TV deals were ECU and Marshall were 2 of those 3 small market teams. Marshall lost theirs a couple years ago from what I recall. ECU was also the only school with a regional deal as well with MASN, and we are as small market as they come.

There is also different levels of market penetration. Even if the market is smaller I would think more eyes watch the NBC affilate where we have our local games than the CW or WB affilate for example. It's still a very good deal for Charlotte though when you look around and see how few teams at this level actually have TV deals at all even if there were some unusal circumstances left this station needing programing. They are only one of a handful of schools with their own TV deal.

I was wondering how many schools in C-USA and FCS had deals like this.

I am very pumped about this news and I am sure affiliates in other markets will be able to purchase these games to show locally. Hopefully we can get into the Triangle for a few games like the NC Central game.

With ESPNU's headquarters in Charlotte and Fox Sports 1 soon to have an office within a few miles of campus (currently SPEED Channel) I am excited about the future opportunities.

Fortunately, you might be able to for the NCCU game, but unfortunately, as long as the traditional CUSA tv deal exists, you will not be able to show games outside of your tv market unless it is in the opposing team's tv market. It relates to the deal they give CBS College Sports I believe to resale games to stations like CSS or MASN for third tier rights. While a team can sale their third tier rights, it can only be in the tv market or markets of the teams playing.

I always wish that CUSA had allowed the schools to sale tv third tier games out of their tv markets as schools like ECU would have and possibly UNCC might have gotten a Raleigh-Durham tv station that did not have the ACC or SEC regional third tier tv deals to pick them up.

Ah thanks, for the insight. I was curious about this.

Even with that, I don't know of any football games NC State or North Carolina have on local TV in Raleigh. Their second tier games are on Jefferson Pilot or ESPNU I think, but I know they have games that were not telecast in the past.

(07-19-2013 01:56 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 05:49 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I'm sure that it's good news for you right now but when you enlarge your stadium it won't be such a Godsend. With home games televised you get a lot of cheapskates who would rather stay home and watch the games in their livingrooms instead of actually becoming butts on the seats. I hate it when our homegames are broadcast as our attendance numbers dwindle.

There might be a black out clause for games that are not sold out. The NFL does this. I would say Charlotte did so.

Unfortunately no. Most telecasts are national in scope and everyone gets to see it. I've addressed this problem with the AD and he says there's nothing they can do about it. I really don't know if he's telling the truth.

(07-19-2013 09:03 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  I don't keep up with it like I did, but as far back as about 3 or 4 years when the TV sportscasters from local NBC were on the radio they would talk about how much their station was supporting ECU compared to other schools nationally. I'm sure they had program managers that tracked other national programing too. I know we were in a small miniorty of schools with their own deal even with the BCS level.

I do remember ECU and Marshall were the only ones in old CUSA because they would point them out specifically, and Marshall got dropped a couple years back I think. UNC or State do not even local TV deals for example and never had that I'm aware of in the last decade, so good luck getting anything on in Raliegh other than a coaches show.

ECU and UCF were the only ones in CUSA that delievered any regional deals to CUSA. I think UCF was Sun TV and ours was MASN. Outside of that in the non BCS BYU is the only other team I know about that had their own TV deals, and that was their own TV station callled BYU. I can assure you it's a small group that has these 3rd tier right on local TV.

Memory fades, but I believe that while we were in the metro and played in the MidSouth Coliseum we had the largest local basketball TV/radio contract in the country. I'm not sure if being the largest in the country continued under the Great Midwest TV arrangement and the move to the Pyramid, but we had a very lucrative local contract. We also scored a major coup by moving to the local radio station that UT had been aligned with for decades (as long as I can remember) around the time we moved to CUSA.

Local broadcasts became a little more challenging with the CUSA contract, especially when combined a very large arena (and stadium), but there's money to be made in local markets if the demand is there, and it certainly is for ECU football.

(07-19-2013 12:16 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 01:56 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 05:49 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I'm sure that it's good news for you right now but when you enlarge your stadium it won't be such a Godsend. With home games televised you get a lot of cheapskates who would rather stay home and watch the games in their livingrooms instead of actually becoming butts on the seats. I hate it when our homegames are broadcast as our attendance numbers dwindle.

There might be a black out clause for games that are not sold out. The NFL does this. I would say Charlotte did so.

Unfortunately no. Most telecasts are national in scope and everyone gets to see it. I've addressed this problem with the AD and he says there's nothing they can do about it. I really don't know if he's telling the truth.

It's certainly a challenge for mid-level programs in very large local football stadiums to broadcast local games. I remember that the Miners were in the 40K+ average attendance range when they joined CUSA, yet still had tickets available for many/most games.

(07-19-2013 12:19 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Memory fades, but I believe that while we were in the metro and played in the MidSouth Coliseum we had the largest local basketball TV/radio contract in the country. I'm not sure if being the largest in the country continued under the Great Midwest TV arrangement and the move to the Pyramid, but we had a very lucrative local contract. We also scored a major coup by moving to the local radio station that UT had been aligned with for decades (as long as I can remember) around the time we moved to CUSA.

I was talking strictly football. I know that while in CUSA 2.0 we and Marshall were the only football program with local deals. I don't know the basketball arangements, we only had 2 or 3 of those on local TV a year out of far more that would have been available so it was never much of a TV for us or that got talked about.

Quote:Local broadcasts became a little more challenging with the CUSA contract, especially when combined a very large arena (and stadium), but there's money to be made in local markets if the demand is there, and it certainly is for ECU football.

It was made extreamly complicated when CUSA first signed away 2nd tier rights to CSTV. They weren't going to allow our local TV to have any games and I think it eventually played a role in Marshall getting dropped because of all the hurdles and dealings, so UNCC will have to deal with that when they get to CUSA I suspect.

Our Local TV battled the conference TV partners hard on that. On local sports radio they often talked about how much of a pain it was. If you are with IMG that was also a pain when IMG bought our rights. IMG hires the production crews FYI which took the local people out of the production and the quality is hit or miss sometimes depending on the contractors they use.

The games that are shown locally are usually the bottom tier games that ESPN/CSTV didn't want and that were on the road. As we got better and the CUSA TV deal got better local TV just took whatever 3 or 4 games were left over home or away.

(07-18-2013 04:55 PM)Niner National Wrote:  All home games this year will be televised.

It is a three year deal, no word on how many games in the future will be televised. It just says all available home games. I'm assuming that means all home games not picked up on any of CUSA's television partners channels.

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArticl...=208737261


Not sure if it means any extra money for the program, but I'm assuming not. It is probably just a part of the IMG deal.

Shouldn't the title be "Local TV Lands Charlotte Deal?"

(07-19-2013 11:38 AM)ECUgradstudent Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:53 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 08:20 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 10:50 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  Guess there is something to this market thing afterall.... But I also guess in only works for some of them.

Not really. In CUSA 2.0 there were all but 3 schools in big markets and the only 2 schools that had local TV deals were ECU and Marshall were 2 of those 3 small market teams. Marshall lost theirs a couple years ago from what I recall. ECU was also the only school with a regional deal as well with MASN, and we are as small market as they come.

There is also different levels of market penetration. Even if the market is smaller I would think more eyes watch the NBC affilate where we have our local games than the CW or WB affilate for example. It's still a very good deal for Charlotte though when you look around and see how few teams at this level actually have TV deals at all even if there were some unusal circumstances left this station needing programing. They are only one of a handful of schools with their own TV deal.

I was wondering how many schools in C-USA and FCS had deals like this.

I am very pumped about this news and I am sure affiliates in other markets will be able to purchase these games to show locally. Hopefully we can get into the Triangle for a few games like the NC Central game.

With ESPNU's headquarters in Charlotte and Fox Sports 1 soon to have an office within a few miles of campus (currently SPEED Channel) I am excited about the future opportunities.

Fortunately, you might be able to for the NCCU game, but unfortunately, as long as the traditional CUSA tv deal exists, you will not be able to show games outside of your tv market unless it is in the opposing team's tv market. It relates to the deal they give CBS College Sports I believe to resale games to stations like CSS or MASN for third tier rights. While a team can sale their third tier rights, it can only be in the tv market or markets of the teams playing.

I always wish that CUSA had allowed the schools to sale tv third tier games out of their tv markets as schools like ECU would have and possibly UNCC might have gotten a Raleigh-Durham tv station that did not have the ACC or SEC regional third tier tv deals to pick them up.

Are you sure about that? If so i will be pissed. We show all basketball games in BG and Louisville as well as have been on FCS Atlantic and ESPN3. I hope they do not take that away from us.

(07-19-2013 12:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 12:19 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Memory fades, but I believe that while we were in the metro and played in the MidSouth Coliseum we had the largest local basketball TV/radio contract in the country. I'm not sure if being the largest in the country continued under the Great Midwest TV arrangement and the move to the Pyramid, but we had a very lucrative local contract. We also scored a major coup by moving to the local radio station that UT had been aligned with for decades (as long as I can remember) around the time we moved to CUSA.

I was talking strictly football. I know that while in CUSA 2.0 we and Marshall were the only football program with local deals. I don't know the basketball arangements, we only had 2 or 3 of those on local TV a year out of far more that would have been available so it was never much of a TV for us or that got talked about.

Quote:Local broadcasts became a little more challenging with the CUSA contract, especially when combined a very large arena (and stadium), but there's money to be made in local markets if the demand is there, and it certainly is for ECU football.

It was made extreamly complicated when CUSA first signed away 2nd tier rights to CSTV. They weren't going to allow our local TV to have any games and I think it eventually played a role in Marshall getting dropped because of all the hurdles and dealings, so UNCC will have to deal with that when they get to CUSA I suspect.

Our Local TV battled the conference TV partners hard on that. On local sports radio they often talked about how much of a pain it was. If you are with IMG that was also a pain when IMG bought our rights. IMG hires the production crews FYI which took the local people out of the production and the quality is hit or miss sometimes depending on the contractors they use.

The games that are shown locally are usually the bottom tier games that ESPN/CSTV didn't want and that were on the road. As we got better and the CUSA TV deal got better local TV just took whatever 3 or 4 games were left over home or away.

Interesting conversation....

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(07-19-2013 12:16 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(07-19-2013 01:56 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 05:49 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I'm sure that it's good news for you right now but when you enlarge your stadium it won't be such a Godsend. With home games televised you get a lot of cheapskates who would rather stay home and watch the games in their livingrooms instead of actually becoming butts on the seats. I hate it when our homegames are broadcast as our attendance numbers dwindle.

There might be a black out clause for games that are not sold out. The NFL does this. I would say Charlotte did so.

Unfortunately no. Most telecasts are national in scope and everyone gets to see it. I've addressed this problem with the AD and he says there's nothing they can do about it. I really don't know if he's telling the truth.

If it is on a national network then no. But this is a local third tier deal.

Charlotte's game at Coastal Carolina has been picked up:

http://www.charlotte49ers.com//ViewArtic...=209280722

Quote:The game will air on WCCB-TV in the Charlotte market as well as on WFXB in Florence-Myrtle Beach, S.C. and WOLO-TV in Columbia, S.C.

Good stuff. Local tv games should help build the fan base.

(10-10-2013 04:22 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Good stuff. Local tv games should help build the fan base.

Averaging 33,000 viewers per game so far.

Nice but I'm still making the trip down, hope we can ruin their homecoming.