i feel so bad for this program and bob huggins. before conference realignment he was the only coach (after boehiem/coach k) with a chance to break 900 wins

now hes stuck in the b12 with no chance to win

(07-15-2013 09:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i feel so bad for this program and bob huggins. before conference realignment he was the only coach (after boehiem/coach k) with a chance to break 900 wins

now hes stuck in the b12 with no chance to win

Crocodile tears??
Huggins will be just fine once he adjusts to the different style of play in the B12.
He did just fine in the BE which was a superior league compared to the B12 in MBB.
Believe me when I tell you the loss of Murray is addition by subtraction.

(07-16-2013 06:56 AM)lofi Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 09:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i feel so bad for this program and bob huggins. before conference realignment he was the only coach (after boehiem/coach k) with a chance to break 900 wins

now hes stuck in the b12 with no chance to win

Crocodile tears??
Huggins will be just fine once he adjusts to the different style of play in the B12.
He did just fine in the BE which was a superior league compared to the B12 in MBB.
Believe me when I tell you the loss of Murray is addition by subtraction.

I don't know about this particular kid but I would agree. WVU left a conference with Syracuse, Louisville, Uconn, Georgetown and some very good middle tier programs. WVU did pretty well in that conference and will do well in the B12.

No reason other than a tougher travel schedule, for WV not to do ok in the B12.

How does being in the Big 12 give him no chance to win?

The Big 12 isn't the Big East but it's, historically, a very strong conference. Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, KSU and Baylor are all good programs and several (namely KU and UT) are elite. (Although UT certainly hasn't lived up to said billing in recent years.)

I think WVU will be just fine in basketball in time.

Aaric Murray was everything WVU was looking for in a big man. When he was on his game, he was a beast down low with good 3 point shooting touch. Unfortunately, he was also the biggest headcase on the team, and could render himself irrelevant in no time flat with stupid penalties and temper tantrums. If he could eliminate the headcase aspect, he'd be a perfect fit. But I guess he couldn't, and Huggs couldn't deal with it any longer. It's a distraction Bobby don't need...

But it's not that great a loss, considering the recruits coming in. WVU has several freshmen big men coming in, and PF Devin Williams made his statement Monday night in Pittsburgh ProAm Summer League play with 14 points and 13 rebounds in The Lair's 74-40 win over Oliverio's Peppers. SG Eron Harris added 6 pts (2-4 shooting) for The Lair...

Oliverio's Peppers' WVU recruits scored 26 of the team's 40 points in the game. C Brandon Watkins had 8 pts, 6 rb, 1 assist, 1 TO and SF Nathan Adrian added 9 pts (1-7 from 3), 5 rb. They'll see more playing time with Murray's departure as well as Williams. SG Terry Henderson also chipped in 9 pts (4-9 shooting), but may have had the best floor game with 3 assists and 2 rb against just 1 TO...

im sure wvu will be just fine

(07-16-2013 08:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  No reason other than a tougher travel schedule, for WV not to do ok in the B12.

lemme me list a few reasons.....

1. no northeast recruiting grounds
2. a fb centric league
3. a kansas dominated league
4. a blueprint with limited amounts of BB recruits

(07-16-2013 09:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-16-2013 08:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  No reason other than a tougher travel schedule, for WV not to do ok in the B12.

lemme me list a few reasons.....

1. no northeast recruiting grounds
2. a fb centric league
3. a kansas dominated league
4. a blueprint with limited amounts of BB recruits

The vast majority of the top 25 have no northeast recruiting grounds. I don't see the validity of any of your points. You should leave the northeast once in a while, to get a better feel for the rest of the nation...

WVU will be just fine in the B12...

Huggins will find a way. He could always lure away another programs assistant coach, way overpay him, just to bring in a top rated recruit. Again.

Huggins used to do quite well recruiting in Texas. Kenyon Martin, Jason Maxiel, Field Williams, to name just a few off the top of my head. I would think being in the Big 12 might open that back up for him. Huggins has always had players transfer out for one reason or another. Not everyone can play for him and that is not mean't as a slam on Huggins.

(07-17-2013 11:14 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(07-16-2013 09:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-16-2013 08:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  No reason other than a tougher travel schedule, for WV not to do ok in the B12.

lemme me list a few reasons.....

1. no northeast recruiting grounds
2. a fb centric league
3. a kansas dominated league
4. a blueprint with limited amounts of BB recruits

The vast majority of the top 25 have no northeast recruiting grounds. I don't see the validity of any of your points. You should leave the northeast once in a while, to get a better feel for the rest of the nation...

WVU will be just fine in the B12...

by northeast i meant the northeast + dc baltimore philly & canada. chicago is a hotspot too that is a nyc/philly style bb city. but last i checked thats b10 territory. thats where a lot of good players come from and that area was the bread & butter for big east schools.

lemme give you some stats (not including chicago)

-kansas has three incoming 5 stars (two of them came from this region)

-syracuse 4/5 of their incoming class (ranked 7th overall) came from this region

-kentucky has had a 5 star come from this region for 3 straight years and at least a 4 star for 5 straight years

-arizona has had a 5 star come from this region for 2 straight years, and a 4 star before that

-duke/unc/kansas tend to get a high ranked recruited out of that region at least once every other year

if this isnt enough for you heres one last little stat for ya

-the top recruit for gtown cuse, ku, iu, fla, & arizona, came from that region

clearly you dont know bb, clearly you dont know that every major program keeps an eye on this part of the country.

#you got schooled

You didn't school diddly. All you did is point out where all the most highly rated recruits went, like I didn't already know where all the kids that everyone thinks will be the next great thing are going to play ball. That's all the "so-called" basketball experts have been talking about for months, and you think it's some kind of news flash...

(07-17-2013 02:40 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  You didn't school diddly. All you did is point out where all the most highly rated recruits went, like I didn't already know where all the kids that everyone thinks will be the next great thing are going to play ball. That's all the "so-called" basketball experts have been talking about for months, and you think it's some kind of news flash...

all i did was point out facts that directly contradict his argument.....right after he called me out for being wrong about those very facts.

sorry but i think thats a pretty textbook example of getting schooled

I guess your school used a different textbook than mine...