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Who's GTS? Georgia Tech Sucks??

Alabama

1) Nick Saban.

2) They've already hit the absolute basement on admission standards so there is no gaining ground to be had there.

3) Their fan base is huge (the hordes of Wal-Mart zombies) but it is competing against even bigger fan bases in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Knoxville ... and those fan bases (with the exception of the one in Baton Rouge) don't have fan behavior problems like destroying campus and pissing over the top of the stadium onto visiting fans.

4) Their standards are unreasonable given who they are competing against. The fact that Richt almost got fired for having one or two down years when he is competing against people with more resources than even he has is unrealistic. Often the baby goes out with the bathwater.

5) While they'll give you answers like Auburn or Florida or Tennessee with a trollish grin as to who their main rival is ... lose to GT twice in a row and see how long it takes for things to be set on fire. Reference #4 again.

Can't finish the drill.

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)20ozBulldog Wrote:  Who's GTS? Georgia Tech Sucks??

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)Mike30142 Wrote:  Alabama

This.

(07-12-2013 08:16 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  1) Nick Saban.

And this. I admit, I was one who thought 'Bama was making a mistake when they hired Saban away from the Dolphins. It was their best move since hiring Bryant away from Texas A&M.

Quote:2) They've already hit the absolute basement on admission standards so there is no gaining ground to be had there.

Equally true for all non-Vanderbilt/Missouri programs in the SEC.

Quote:3) Their fan base is huge (the hordes of Wal-Mart zombies) but it is competing against even bigger fan bases in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Knoxville ... and those fan bases (with the exception of the one in Baton Rouge) don't have fan behavior problems like destroying campus and pissing over the top of the stadium onto visiting fans.

None of that (even if true) has more than a molecule of relevance to the OP's question.

Quote:4) Their standards are unreasonable given who they are competing against. The fact that Richt almost got fired for having one or two down years when he is competing against people with more resources than even he has is unrealistic. Often the baby goes out with the bathwater.

Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, et al., are just as quick (or more so) to drop the hammer. Donnan got 5 years and Goff got 7. Richt didn't "almost get fired", he had to deal with the usual talk-radio bullsh*t and alumni-pressure that any HC getting about $3m per year has to deal with.

A lot of the Dawg-discontent with Richt comes from the sense that he is ready to move on in life away from football and coaching. I don't personally know if that's true or not, but a lot of people in a position to know have gotten that impression over the past few years.

Quote:5) While they'll give you answers like Auburn or Florida or Tennessee with a trollish grin as to who their main rival is ... lose to GT twice in a row and see how long it takes for things to be set on fire. Reference #4 again.

Again, not on-point with the OP's question. Auburn, Florida, and Georgia Tech are all equally-important games and rivalries to UGa. South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama are the second-row. A generation ago, Clemson was high on the list, but it's just not possible for teams in the SEC or ACC to maintain two hyper-intense rivalries in football. Georgia-Clemson fell by the wayside, while Clemson/South Carolina and Georgia/Georgia Tech survived.

Although, having said all that, Georgia is playing @Clemson on Aug. 31. Should be great.

(07-12-2013 07:52 PM)20ozBulldog Wrote:  Go...

(07-12-2013 08:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  None of that (even if true) has more than a molecule of relevance to the OP's question.

Again, not on-point with the OP's question.

Both directly impact recruiting.

(07-12-2013 08:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)20ozBulldog Wrote:  Who's GTS? Georgia Tech Sucks??

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)Mike30142 Wrote:  Alabama

This.

(07-12-2013 08:16 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  1) Nick Saban.

And this. I admit, I was one who thought 'Bama was making a mistake when they hired Saban away from the Dolphins. It was their best move since hiring Bryant away from Texas A&M.

Quote:2) They've already hit the absolute basement on admission standards so there is no gaining ground to be had there.

Equally true for all non-Vanderbilt/Missouri programs in the SEC.

Quote:3) Their fan base is huge (the hordes of Wal-Mart zombies) but it is competing against even bigger fan bases in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Knoxville ... and those fan bases (with the exception of the one in Baton Rouge) don't have fan behavior problems like destroying campus and pissing over the top of the stadium onto visiting fans.

None of that (even if true) has more than a molecule of relevance to the OP's question.

Quote:4) Their standards are unreasonable given who they are competing against. The fact that Richt almost got fired for having one or two down years when he is competing against people with more resources than even he has is unrealistic. Often the baby goes out with the bathwater.

Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, et al., are just as quick (or more so) to drop the hammer. Donnan got 5 years and Goff got 7. Richt didn't "almost get fired", he had to deal with the usual talk-radio bullsh*t and alumni-pressure that any HC getting about $3m per year has to deal with.

A lot of the Dawg-discontent with Richt comes from the sense that he is ready to move on in life away from football and coaching. I don't personally know if that's true or not, but a lot of people in a position to know have gotten that impression over the past few years.

Quote:5) While they'll give you answers like Auburn or Florida or Tennessee with a trollish grin as to who their main rival is ... lose to GT twice in a row and see how long it takes for things to be set on fire. Reference #4 again.

Again, not on-point with the OP's question. Auburn, Florida, and Georgia Tech are all equally-important games and rivalries to UGa. South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama are the second-row. A generation ago, Clemson was high on the list, but it's just not possible for teams in the SEC or ACC to maintain two hyper-intense rivalries in football. Georgia-Clemson fell by the wayside, while Clemson/South Carolina and Georgia/Georgia Tech survived.

Although, having said all that, Georgia is playing @Clemson on Aug. 31. Should be great.

Teams in the State of Georgia and neighboring North Carolina have a very poor B-5 school to statewide population rate when you aggregate all the schools around the basic footprint.

UGA is surrounded by Miami, FSU, UF, Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy, UNC, NC State, WF, Duke, SC, and Clemson. Not to mention GT in the State of GA. That's 14 schools competing for the area talent and that does not include the kids that ND, Penn State, Ohio State or TAMU or Texas pluck out of the area.

To win the SEC and then the NC, you have to have at least 2 if not three world-class Defensive Linemen. That's almost always the difference maker between SEC teams and ACC teams.

I can't remember Georgia having a great defense. I can remember when Bama, LSU, FSU, Miami, VT, Clemson and had great defenses - those with the great defenses won the tough games.

(07-12-2013 07:52 PM)20ozBulldog Wrote:  Go...

UGA was 5 yards from a national championship.

Turn in your Bulldawg card and exit the nation.

Loss to Boise State

(07-12-2013 09:03 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 08:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)20ozBulldog Wrote:  Who's GTS? Georgia Tech Sucks??

(07-12-2013 08:07 PM)Mike30142 Wrote:  Alabama

This.

(07-12-2013 08:16 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  1) Nick Saban.

And this. I admit, I was one who thought 'Bama was making a mistake when they hired Saban away from the Dolphins. It was their best move since hiring Bryant away from Texas A&M.

Quote:2) They've already hit the absolute basement on admission standards so there is no gaining ground to be had there.

Equally true for all non-Vanderbilt/Missouri programs in the SEC.

Quote:3) Their fan base is huge (the hordes of Wal-Mart zombies) but it is competing against even bigger fan bases in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Knoxville ... and those fan bases (with the exception of the one in Baton Rouge) don't have fan behavior problems like destroying campus and pissing over the top of the stadium onto visiting fans.

None of that (even if true) has more than a molecule of relevance to the OP's question.

Quote:4) Their standards are unreasonable given who they are competing against. The fact that Richt almost got fired for having one or two down years when he is competing against people with more resources than even he has is unrealistic. Often the baby goes out with the bathwater.

Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, et al., are just as quick (or more so) to drop the hammer. Donnan got 5 years and Goff got 7. Richt didn't "almost get fired", he had to deal with the usual talk-radio bullsh*t and alumni-pressure that any HC getting about $3m per year has to deal with.

A lot of the Dawg-discontent with Richt comes from the sense that he is ready to move on in life away from football and coaching. I don't personally know if that's true or not, but a lot of people in a position to know have gotten that impression over the past few years.

Quote:5) While they'll give you answers like Auburn or Florida or Tennessee with a trollish grin as to who their main rival is ... lose to GT twice in a row and see how long it takes for things to be set on fire. Reference #4 again.

Again, not on-point with the OP's question. Auburn, Florida, and Georgia Tech are all equally-important games and rivalries to UGa. South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama are the second-row. A generation ago, Clemson was high on the list, but it's just not possible for teams in the SEC or ACC to maintain two hyper-intense rivalries in football. Georgia-Clemson fell by the wayside, while Clemson/South Carolina and Georgia/Georgia Tech survived.

Although, having said all that, Georgia is playing @Clemson on Aug. 31. Should be great.

Teams in the State of Georgia and neighboring North Carolina have a very poor B-5 school to statewide population rate when you aggregate all the schools around the basic footprint.

UGA is surrounded by Miami, FSU, UF, Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy, UNC, NC State, WF, Duke, SC, and Clemson. Not to mention GT in the State of GA. That's 14 schools competing for the area talent and that does not include the kids that ND, Penn State, Ohio State or TAMU or Texas pluck out of the area.

To win the SEC and then the NC, you have to have at least 2 if not three world-class Defensive Linemen. That's almost always the difference maker between SEC teams and ACC teams.

I can't remember Georgia having a great defense. I can remember when Bama, LSU, FSU, Miami, VT, Clemson and had great defenses - those with the great defenses won the tough games.

Excuses

(07-12-2013 09:03 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I can't remember Georgia having a great defense. I can remember when Bama, LSU, FSU, Miami, VT, Clemson and had great defenses - those with the great defenses won the tough games.

Fair points.

Georgia had great defense for 25 years. Having Erk Russell as DC for 17 years was a big help there. Then Vince Dooley retired, and Georgia has relied on its offense ever since, with varying degrees of success.

Lately, there have been too many great coaches around in the SEC.

But national championships are luck.

Last year if KSU and Oregon hadn't lost games late or if Ohio St. wasn't on probation, Alabama is out of luck.

The year before Alabama shouldn't have been there. If it was OU instead of OSU, their loss to LSU would have been an eliminator.

The year before that if the Alabama player isn't stupid and let the Auburn player strip him after the turnover right before halftime, its Oregon vs. TCU instead of Auburn.

The year before that, if a KSU player hadn't hit Colt McCoy in the same place 3 years earlier, the Alabama hit doesn't knock him out of the game and Alabama faces what was then the winningest QB in college history instead of the guy who took Texas to a 5-7 season the next year and fell the 3rd string the year after that.

The year before that, it was very close between OU and UT. OU made it vs. Florida. Both Florida and UT had beaten OU by 10.

The year before that a half dozen teams could have made it, but #1 Missouri and some others lost the final weekend and LSU slipped in with 2 losses.

And in 2006 it could have been an Ohio St./Michigan rematch instead of Florida.

Minor things out of the school's control could have made the difference.

Because Herschel Walker is over 40 an ineligible. Fran Tarkenton is a geezer and Pat Dye lives in Auburn. But seriously, every year they could have they lost to South Carolina early.

(07-12-2013 09:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  Lately, there have been too many great coaches around in the SEC.

But national championships are luck.

Last year if KSU and Oregon hadn't lost games late or if Ohio St. wasn't on probation, Alabama is out of luck.

The year before Alabama shouldn't have been there. If it was OU instead of OSU, their loss to LSU would have been an eliminator.

The year before that if the Alabama player isn't stupid and let the Auburn player strip him after the turnover right before halftime, its Oregon vs. TCU instead of Auburn.

The year before that, if a KSU player hadn't hit Colt McCoy in the same place 3 years earlier, the Alabama hit doesn't knock him out of the game and Alabama faces what was then the winningest QB in college history instead of the guy who took Texas to a 5-7 season the next year and fell the 3rd string the year after that.

The year before that, it was very close between OU and UT. OU made it vs. Florida. Both Florida and UT had beaten OU by 10.

The year before that a half dozen teams could have made it, but #1 Missouri and some others lost the final weekend and LSU slipped in with 2 losses.

And in 2006 it could have been an Ohio St./Michigan rematch instead of Florida.

Minor things out of the school's control could have made the difference.

I thought the thread was why Georgia hasn't won it all (since Herschel anyway), not if's and but's as to why the Big 12 misses out or gets beat.

Heck, UGA could of won it this year. If that final play in the SEC title game turned into an incomplete pass then UGA could definitely get a TD on the final play.

That's a victory over Bama and I'm sure the Dawgs would have destroyed Notre Dame.

Program is soft and has always been soft. Just not mean and tough enough. And I like UGA.

When they won it in 80, it took the greatest running back ever in college football. They lost the national title in 82 in a heartbreaker in the last 30 seconds.

Defense