(07-13-2013 12:30 PM)Doggone Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:07 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:11 AM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:09 AM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  This is not searching for something to complain about, this is a very legit complaint. The excuses that I always gave people of why we cannot schedule bigger programs to Dekalb was that nobody wanted to take the risk to lose. Now I know I was full of crap and it is our Athletic Department being inept.

7- I do not know if you are old enough to remember the Maryland game, but that set the tone for the whole season. That is how we had great attendance that year. Without at least a known team to come into Dekalb we just will not have the fan base.

I do not know how its possible coming off a year to the Orange Bowl, but today I feel ashamed of NIU and this absurdly bad scheduling.

If we are going to have that crap game, which I guess we all know we need, why not have it in the books every year for WIU, SIU, ISU etc. Just on a rotation.

This is an absolute joke.

+1000

+1001

Is it too simple to simply schedule ISU, SIU, Western and Eastern on a rotating basis? It's not hard. As Ditka would say, It's not rocket surgery!

It's not as easy as you think. The last time we tried to schedule EIU, which was 3 to 4 years ago, they asked for a much higher payout then the going rate for FCS teams. So we settled for a Tennessee Tech type team. It takes 2 teams to schedule.

If it's totally money thing - and I agree that's their thinking - why do they even bother scheduling home OOC games? Save the money and headaches, play 4 away games at the big schools, and rake in the cash. Give the fans 4 MAC home games (including 2 mid-week games) and be done with it.

The bottom line is this: the football team has advanced and become winners, while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality. How sad indeed.

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 12:30 PM)Doggone Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:07 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:11 AM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:09 AM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  This is not searching for something to complain about, this is a very legit complaint. The excuses that I always gave people of why we cannot schedule bigger programs to Dekalb was that nobody wanted to take the risk to lose. Now I know I was full of crap and it is our Athletic Department being inept.

7- I do not know if you are old enough to remember the Maryland game, but that set the tone for the whole season. That is how we had great attendance that year. Without at least a known team to come into Dekalb we just will not have the fan base.

I do not know how its possible coming off a year to the Orange Bowl, but today I feel ashamed of NIU and this absurdly bad scheduling.

If we are going to have that crap game, which I guess we all know we need, why not have it in the books every year for WIU, SIU, ISU etc. Just on a rotation.

This is an absolute joke.

+1000

+1001

Is it too simple to simply schedule ISU, SIU, Western and Eastern on a rotating basis? It's not hard. As Ditka would say, It's not rocket surgery!

It's not as easy as you think. The last time we tried to schedule EIU, which was 3 to 4 years ago, they asked for a much higher payout then the going rate for FCS teams. So we settled for a Tennessee Tech type team. It takes 2 teams to schedule.

If it's totally money thing - and I agree that's their thinking - why do they even bother scheduling home OOC games? Save the money and headaches, play 4 away games at the big schools, and rake in the cash. Give the fans 4 MAC home games (including 2 mid-week games) and be done with it.

The bottom line is this: the football team has advanced and become winners, while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality. How sad indeed.

and there it is in a nutshell. If anyone wants to skip reading 17 pages of these threads, this sums it all up more or less

I just read the Korcek article and whole-heartedly agree with it.

Our current scheduling philosophy has been pathetic and not one that reminds us of how far this program has made it.

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 12:30 PM)Doggone Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:07 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:11 AM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:09 AM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  This is not searching for something to complain about, this is a very legit complaint. The excuses that I always gave people of why we cannot schedule bigger programs to Dekalb was that nobody wanted to take the risk to lose. Now I know I was full of crap and it is our Athletic Department being inept.

7- I do not know if you are old enough to remember the Maryland game, but that set the tone for the whole season. That is how we had great attendance that year. Without at least a known team to come into Dekalb we just will not have the fan base.

I do not know how its possible coming off a year to the Orange Bowl, but today I feel ashamed of NIU and this absurdly bad scheduling.

If we are going to have that crap game, which I guess we all know we need, why not have it in the books every year for WIU, SIU, ISU etc. Just on a rotation.

This is an absolute joke.

+1000

+1001

Is it too simple to simply schedule ISU, SIU, Western and Eastern on a rotating basis? It's not hard. As Ditka would say, It's not rocket surgery!

It's not as easy as you think. The last time we tried to schedule EIU, which was 3 to 4 years ago, they asked for a much higher payout then the going rate for FCS teams. So we settled for a Tennessee Tech type team. It takes 2 teams to schedule.

If it's totally money thing - and I agree that's their thinking - why do they even bother scheduling home OOC games? Save the money and headaches, play 4 away games at the big schools, and rake in the cash. Give the fans 4 MAC home games (including 2 mid-week games) and be done with it.

The bottom line is this: the football team has advanced and become winners, while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality. How sad indeed.

We need to rake in as much money as possible so that our next AD can rake in 750,000 salary for sitting on his hands.

(07-13-2013 03:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 12:30 PM)Doggone Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:07 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 11:11 AM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  +1000

+1001

Is it too simple to simply schedule ISU, SIU, Western and Eastern on a rotating basis? It's not hard. As Ditka would say, It's not rocket surgery!

It's not as easy as you think. The last time we tried to schedule EIU, which was 3 to 4 years ago, they asked for a much higher payout then the going rate for FCS teams. So we settled for a Tennessee Tech type team. It takes 2 teams to schedule.

If it's totally money thing - and I agree that's their thinking - why do they even bother scheduling home OOC games? Save the money and headaches, play 4 away games at the big schools, and rake in the cash. Give the fans 4 MAC home games (including 2 mid-week games) and be done with it.

The bottom line is this: the football team has advanced and become winners, while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality. How sad indeed.

We need to rake in as much money as possible so that our next AD can rake in 750,000 salary for sitting on his hands.

Compher is not making 1/3 of that.

(07-13-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 03:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 12:30 PM)Doggone Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:07 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  +1001

Is it too simple to simply schedule ISU, SIU, Western and Eastern on a rotating basis? It's not hard. As Ditka would say, It's not rocket surgery!

It's not as easy as you think. The last time we tried to schedule EIU, which was 3 to 4 years ago, they asked for a much higher payout then the going rate for FCS teams. So we settled for a Tennessee Tech type team. It takes 2 teams to schedule.

If it's totally money thing - and I agree that's their thinking - why do they even bother scheduling home OOC games? Save the money and headaches, play 4 away games at the big schools, and rake in the cash. Give the fans 4 MAC home games (including 2 mid-week games) and be done with it.

The bottom line is this: the football team has advanced and become winners, while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality. How sad indeed.

We need to rake in as much money as possible so that our next AD can rake in 750,000 salary for sitting on his hands.

Compher is not making 1/3 of that.

Yeah, well you know what I mean. We need to find an AD that considers what he can do for NIU and not just what he/she can milk out of NIU. That has been NIU's problem ever since Phillips milked the cow.

(07-13-2013 02:44 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I just read the Korcek article and whole-heartedly agree with it.

Our current scheduling philosophy has been pathetic and not one that reminds us of how far this program has made it.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. If you don't schedule good teams, you don't sell tickets. If you don't sell tickets you can't schedule good teams. Jeff Compher scheduling philosophy has created a slippery slope. Lets face it, MAC schools already play week nights, so when it comes down to Saturday games this one is not appealing or interesting to fans. What is left after that, two Saturday MAC games?

Remember Mich and Appaliation Stat. (spelling but you get meaning). If you read the Mich boards you probably heard the same stuff as is here...Guess who won that game

Not saying I like the game (it sucks)

(07-13-2013 05:53 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Remember Mich and Appaliation Stat. (spelling but you get meaning). If you read the Mich boards you probably heard the same stuff as is here...Guess who won that game

Not saying I like the game (it sucks)

The result of the game at this point is meaningless. Yeah sure NIU could lose but the important part of scheduling is to create a buzz and that makes people want to invest in the Huskies. Right now there is not one bone for NIU fans, not this year, not 1 year down the road, not 5 years down the road. There is essentially no reason to buy a season ticket right now. ESPN weeknight games, a good core group of NIU fans travelling across the region to see the Huskies, however many thousands of people traveled a very tough trip to Miami to see the Orange Bowl, getting financially raped for the SF games....its time for the fans to get that bone, no doubt about that. And this is all ignoring the other big point of what recruits would want to come here if Presbyterian is your big non-conf game.

I just really really fear the future, we have a new president with who knows what type of commitment he will have to athletics (early returns may not be positive). FBS is going to be shrinking and we are behind virtually every other MAC school in scheduling. The line graph of season ticket sales over the past 5 years has resembled a Wall Street crash. Not good folks, not good.

(07-13-2013 09:15 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 06:41 AM)Max Power Wrote:  We played Tennessee Tech in 2003, Cal Poly in 2011 and Tennessee-Martin in 2012 and everything turned out fine. The strength of an FCS doesn't really matter because nobody is giving you credit for beating them anyway.

Everything did not turn out fine. Our attendance sucks because those are the ONLY home OOC games we're getting. Well, that's not the only reason but it's a big one. If they schedule a good FBS team as a home game to go along with Presbyterian I'm okay with it. But knowing past scheduling, this will be our only OOC home game yet again. Pathetic.

Everything was fine attendance wise in 2003-2006 despite playing no name FCS schools, yes. There was an FCS team on the schedule every year while NIU averaged over 20k. The annual FCS game is not our problem. And you can't replace it without obliging the Huskies for future road games that will contribute to more 5 home game slates. Yes it should've been an instate but they're not available.

(07-13-2013 02:17 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality.[/b] How sad indeed.

and there it is in a nutshell. If anyone wants to skip reading 17 pages of these threads, this sums it all up more or less

1990's scheduling? Let's see, in the 1990's NIU hosted teams such as Kansas State (twice), Fresno State, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech (twice), Nevada, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Cincinnati and Vanderbilt. So....you're trying to argue that we are scheduling like the 1990's? Uh, not quite.

The directional Illinois hosting comments are equally as ignorant, if not much more so. Last I checked, we don't have the power over WIU, EIU, SIU and ISU to tell them when and for how much they will play at Huskie Stadium.

Please, I understand this is a homer message board. Opinions are fine, just please have somewhat of a clue what you're talking about and how these things work.

(07-13-2013 07:19 PM)Max Power Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 09:15 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 06:41 AM)Max Power Wrote:  We played Tennessee Tech in 2003, Cal Poly in 2011 and Tennessee-Martin in 2012 and everything turned out fine. The strength of an FCS doesn't really matter because nobody is giving you credit for beating them anyway.

Everything did not turn out fine. Our attendance sucks because those are the ONLY home OOC games we're getting. Well, that's not the only reason but it's a big one. If they schedule a good FBS team as a home game to go along with Presbyterian I'm okay with it. But knowing past scheduling, this will be our only OOC home game yet again. Pathetic.

Everything was fine attendance wise in 2003-2006 despite playing no name FCS schools, yes. There was an FCS team on the schedule every year while NIU averaged over 20k. The annual FCS game is not our problem. And you can't replace it without obliging the Huskies for future road games that will contribute to more 5 home game slates. Yes it should've been an instate but they're not available.

I'm not saying it is. I'm saying the years where we have only 1 OOC home game and it's an FCS team are the problem. And the years where we do have an FBS team at home it's Army, or Idaho or somebody like that.

All I heard from my coworkers this week (Gators fans) was how bad Florida's home schedule was this year. Toledo, Tenn, Arkansas, Vandy, GA Southern, FSU
Every time they brought it up, I just had to walk away.

(07-13-2013 07:21 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 02:17 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 01:26 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  while Athletics administration has never escaped the 1990's mentality.[/b] How sad indeed.

and there it is in a nutshell. If anyone wants to skip reading 17 pages of these threads, this sums it all up more or less

1990's scheduling? Let's see, in the 1990's NIU hosted teams such as Kansas State (twice), Fresno State, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech (twice), Nevada, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Cincinnati and Vanderbilt. So....you're trying to argue that we are scheduling like the 1990's? Uh, not quite.

The directional Illinois hosting comments are equally as ignorant, if not much more so. Last I checked, we don't have the power over WIU, EIU, SIU and ISU to tell them when and for how much they will play at Huskie Stadium.

Please, I understand this is a homer message board. Opinions are fine, just please have somewhat of a clue what you're talking about and how these things work.

Yep, those were the days....

(07-13-2013 07:21 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Last I checked, we don't have the power over WIU, EIU, SIU and ISU to tell them when and for how much they will play at Huskie Stadium.
.... this is a homer message board.

niubrad00,
You're correct in almost all of what you said: the debateable portion is "for how much" those Illinois directionals need to come to Huskie Stadium. Since they've all -- WIU, EIU, SIU and ISU -- taken our money in the past, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again if they've got an opening on their schedules. To that end, instead of a UT-Martin, Cal Poly, and now Presbyterian, offer that money and maybe a little more to lock in each of those schools on some sort of rotation and up the ante for each time down the road they stay locked in. If we're paying them 50K for their next visit, their second visit four years later is worth 55K, the third time is worth 60K. Yes, we're taking a risk of an upset, but that's one home FCS game for the next four, eight or 12 years and unlike a UT-Martin, Cal Poly or Presbyterian, it's an opponent that will bring some paying fans to town.
Then use a little more of the guarantee money we get from a Nebraska, Ohio State, etc., in every other season to entice a Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Duke, Syracuse to make a visit to Huskie Stadium as part of a two-for-one. Is this a perfect solution, hell no; but it's a step toward making the home schedule a little more attractive in some seasons.

Homer message board, that's kind of amusing coming from a Big 10 homer.

(07-13-2013 08:36 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Homer message board, that's kind of amusing coming from a Big 10 homer.

I see you're still retarded. I'm not surprised.

(07-13-2013 05:53 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Remember Mich and Appaliation Stat. (spelling but you get meaning). If you read the Mich boards you probably heard the same stuff as is here...Guess who won that game

Not saying I like the game (it sucks)

Exactly why we should schedule FCS teams as little as possible.

(07-13-2013 09:17 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 08:36 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Homer message board, that's kind of amusing coming from a Big 10 homer.

I see you're still retarded. I'm not surprised.

As a father of a "retarded" son, you make me sick.

(07-13-2013 10:16 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 05:53 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Remember Mich and Appaliation Stat. (spelling but you get meaning). If you read the Mich boards you probably heard the same stuff as is here...Guess who won that game

Not saying I like the game (it sucks)

Exactly why we should schedule FCS teams as little as possible.

Why exactly should we be the exception to the rule? There were 106 fbs vs. fcs games last year. This is a common thing.