Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Also looks like SNY will be shutout from the 3 college conferences likely to get the most interest in the area.

Another stealthy move by John Swofford.

Why did Mike Aresco leave a good job at CBS again? Maybe he's thinking he does well enough he can get a better commish job, like Slive did.

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

what is YES?

Yankess network.

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

(07-11-2013 10:25 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Another stealthy move by John Swofford.

In reality, it's more of a Fox Sports move as opposed to a move by either the Big East or ACC. I'm sure the Big East and ACC had some input in signing off on the deal, but Fox ultimately had the control and relationship with Fox. Note that the Big Ten Network is 51% owned by Fox, so part of the value proposition of the BTN in the NYC market is also to bundle that with YES.

-So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

As opposed to Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue and Indiana, for instance?

(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

ACC games are already distributed across the US with the Raycom deal. So evidently there are people everywhere willing to watch.

There are also games left that go to ESPN3 each year so I don't think there would be a big deal getting some back for a network. The ACC has two more football and three more basketball teams now than they had before. Right now Raycom Sports is the defacto ACC channel. In the future there will still be inventory for them to show.

(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

Right. I think that this is not a step in the direction of an ACC Network. However, supposedly the terms of the ACC GOR include a $2M/yr/school bump if no ACC Network.

(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.

Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

UConn Fans!

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

(07-11-2013 01:53 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

(07-11-2013 12:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

(07-11-2013 02:02 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 01:53 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

I don't think that this has any/much bearing on a future ACC Network.