(07-08-2013 06:50 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  To the "Memphis only dominated after Lou, Cincy, Marquette, etc left, that comment is kind of misleading. When those teams were in C-USA, Memphis was still dealing with having Tic Price as a head coach. Which was the absolute worst era in Tiger hoops. Then Calipari got there a couple years before all of the teams left. Cal was building at that point. Once Cal had built the Memphis brand up, the good teams had already left. If the 2005-2013 Memphis teams had played in the same conference as Lou, Cincy, etc, would have been a different story. The Memphis that we know today didnt exist while Lou, Cincy, Marquette were in C-USA.

To be fair, Price WAS your coach. You hired him. You paid him. Just as we hired Ellis Johnson and we are still paying him. You can't just dismiss a period of your history because you made a bad coaching hire.

You were a dynasty, anyone who doesn't think it is either stupid or apparently a MTSU fan

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

We did not cheat.
The NCAA cleared Derrick Rose THREE times that season. The same azzhat who came up with the penalty for our school...was the SAME azzhat who ran the University of Miami athletic department that ran rampant in its blackhat cheating ways. GTH Paul Dees...oh wait....

(07-08-2013 08:31 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 06:50 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  To the "Memphis only dominated after Lou, Cincy, Marquette, etc left, that comment is kind of misleading. When those teams were in C-USA, Memphis was still dealing with having Tic Price as a head coach. Which was the absolute worst era in Tiger hoops. Then Calipari got there a couple years before all of the teams left. Cal was building at that point. Once Cal had built the Memphis brand up, the good teams had already left. If the 2005-2013 Memphis teams had played in the same conference as Lou, Cincy, etc, would have been a different story. The Memphis that we know today didnt exist while Lou, Cincy, Marquette were in C-USA.

To be fair, Price WAS your coach. You hired him. You paid him. Just as we hired Ellis Johnson and we are still paying him. You can't just dismiss a period of your history because you made a bad coaching hire.

You were a dynasty, anyone who doesn't think it is either stupid or apparently a MTSU fan

TG4 is a Memphis Tiger football alum...former player who did not appreciate the way Larry Porter was fired.
He likes to try and agitate Memphis fans...who don't realize that he DOESN'T hate Memphis...he just enjoys getting their goats.

(07-08-2013 08:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 08:31 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 06:50 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  To the "Memphis only dominated after Lou, Cincy, Marquette, etc left, that comment is kind of misleading. When those teams were in C-USA, Memphis was still dealing with having Tic Price as a head coach. Which was the absolute worst era in Tiger hoops. Then Calipari got there a couple years before all of the teams left. Cal was building at that point. Once Cal had built the Memphis brand up, the good teams had already left. If the 2005-2013 Memphis teams had played in the same conference as Lou, Cincy, etc, would have been a different story. The Memphis that we know today didnt exist while Lou, Cincy, Marquette were in C-USA.

To be fair, Price WAS your coach. You hired him. You paid him. Just as we hired Ellis Johnson and we are still paying him. You can't just dismiss a period of your history because you made a bad coaching hire.

You were a dynasty, anyone who doesn't think it is either stupid or apparently a MTSU fan

TG4 is a Memphis Tiger football alum...former player who did not appreciate the way Larry Porter was fired.
He likes to try and agitate Memphis fans...who don't realize that he DOESN'T hate Memphis...he just enjoys getting their goats.

My apologies to MTSU fans everywhere.

I for one shall miss CUSA, particularly the rivalry with Southern Mississippi. A lot of history there. Shared that sentiment with a few Golden Eagles at the tournament in Tulsa. By the way that was one heck of a good title game.

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

Pretty good? Has Charlotte done anything even CLOSE?

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

We still dominated...also bonus coveraged Cincy two years after they left....beat them so badly ESPN sent the broadcast to bonus coverage of another game. Let me know when Charlotte dominates a league like that.

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

Pretty good? What rock are you smoking. They are the only team in history to win 30 games 4 straight seasons I believe. In the 8 years of CUSA 2.0 they averaged 30.3 wins a year, that has got to be one of the most dominate stretches in college basketball ever.

Let me break this down for you, CUSA is less than half their schedule, they didn't just dominate CUSA, they dominated just about everyone they played in that stretch. You don't average 30.3 wins over those 8 years without being an absolute dynasty. They have to be one of the greatest in the modern era even with the cheating.

(07-09-2013 01:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

Pretty good? What rock are you smoking. They are the only team in history to win 30 games 4 straight seasons I believe. In the 8 years of CUSA 2.0 they averaged 30.3 wins a year, that has got to be one of the most dominate stretches in college basketball ever.

Let me break this down for you, CUSA is less than half their schedule, they didn't just dominate CUSA, they dominated just about everyone they played in that stretch. You don't average 30.3 wins over those 8 years without being an absolute dynasty. They have to be one of the greatest in the modern era even with the cheating.

This

(07-08-2013 09:20 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 08:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 08:31 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 06:50 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  To the "Memphis only dominated after Lou, Cincy, Marquette, etc left, that comment is kind of misleading. When those teams were in C-USA, Memphis was still dealing with having Tic Price as a head coach. Which was the absolute worst era in Tiger hoops. Then Calipari got there a couple years before all of the teams left. Cal was building at that point. Once Cal had built the Memphis brand up, the good teams had already left. If the 2005-2013 Memphis teams had played in the same conference as Lou, Cincy, etc, would have been a different story. The Memphis that we know today didnt exist while Lou, Cincy, Marquette were in C-USA.

To be fair, Price WAS your coach. You hired him. You paid him. Just as we hired Ellis Johnson and we are still paying him. You can't just dismiss a period of your history because you made a bad coaching hire.

You were a dynasty, anyone who doesn't think it is either stupid or apparently a MTSU fan

TG4 is a Memphis Tiger football alum...former player who did not appreciate the way Larry Porter was fired.
He likes to try and agitate Memphis fans...who don't realize that he DOESN'T hate Memphis...he just enjoys getting their goats.

My apologies to MTSU fans everywhere.

Apology accepted.

(07-08-2013 06:22 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-07-2013 08:30 PM)10miners Wrote:  they dominated for what 10 years? I think they were a dynasty.

Memphis was nothing short of a complete dynasty. No need for a football reference, no program brought more national attention to CUSA than Memphis basketball did.

However, the dynasty really didn't do the rest of us much good as the "Memphis and the 11 Dwarfs" comes to mind.

I agree with this. Sure, Memphis was the cream of the crop in CUSA 2.0.....but I really think it was to the entire conference's detriment. Although a short-term loss, I think it will be a long-term gain for the new version of CUSA because I do believe that the country will start to realize many of the other teams in CUSA are/were pretty darn good and the odds of getting more than just one team in the field will be better. There were some Southern Miss and UTEP teams that absolutely should have gotten in the NCAA tourney that got snubbed because of the perception listed above.

TM

(07-09-2013 03:20 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

Pretty good? What rock are you smoking. They are the only team in history to win 30 games 4 straight seasons I believe. In the 8 years of CUSA 2.0 they averaged 30.3 wins a year, that has got to be one of the most dominate stretches in college basketball ever.

Let me break this down for you, CUSA is less than half their schedule, they didn't just dominate CUSA, they dominated just about everyone they played in that stretch. You don't average 30.3 wins over those 8 years without being an absolute dynasty. They have to be one of the greatest in the modern era even with the cheating.

This

Dynasties in conference yes...Dynasty nationally no...

In conference in the grand scheme of things really means very little

(07-08-2013 06:44 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 03:26 PM)wh49er Wrote:  No, they only dominated after Cincy, L'Ville, Charlotte, Marquette, and St. Louis left.

Yep, after 2005 Memphis won the next 7 out of 8 CUSA Tournaments. That's pretty good even though they had to vacate the 2008 wins since they cheated.

What the heck is a Charlotte?

The team that was better than Memphis in CUSA 1.0?

(07-09-2013 01:11 AM)transitt Wrote:  We still dominated...also bonus coveraged Cincy two years after they left....beat them so badly ESPN sent the broadcast to bonus coverage of another game. Let me know when Charlotte dominates a league like that.

From the '95-'96 season to the '04-'05 you never won a conference tournament and only made one final. 2 outright regular season titles. You've been a "dynasty" since '05-'06 but no one that was in the original CUSA considers you a dynasty.

Leave it up to Tigers fans to get mad when someone presents reality to them. At least Charlotte fans, can realize that our basketball isn't what it was during the old CUSA days.

Basketball? No doubt...

(07-09-2013 08:41 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:11 AM)transitt Wrote:  We still dominated...also bonus coveraged Cincy two years after they left....beat them so badly ESPN sent the broadcast to bonus coverage of another game. Let me know when Charlotte dominates a league like that.

From the '95-'96 season to the '04-'05 you never won a conference tournament and only made one final. 2 outright regular season titles. You've been a "dynasty" since '05-'06 but no one that was in the original CUSA considers you a dynasty.

Leave it up to Tigers fans to get mad when someone presents reality to them. At least Charlotte fans, can realize that our basketball isn't what it was during the old CUSA days.

They seem to get mad we it's pointed out that they cheated. Not our fault they cheated.

(07-09-2013 09:28 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 08:41 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:11 AM)transitt Wrote:  We still dominated...also bonus coveraged Cincy two years after they left....beat them so badly ESPN sent the broadcast to bonus coverage of another game. Let me know when Charlotte dominates a league like that.

From the '95-'96 season to the '04-'05 you never won a conference tournament and only made one final. 2 outright regular season titles. You've been a "dynasty" since '05-'06 but no one that was in the original CUSA considers you a dynasty.

Leave it up to Tigers fans to get mad when someone presents reality to them. At least Charlotte fans, can realize that our basketball isn't what it was during the old CUSA days.

They seem to get mad we it's pointed out that they cheated. Not our fault they cheated.

They get mad at any slight towards their program, nothing has changed about them from the old days.

(07-08-2013 03:21 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-07-2013 08:30 PM)10miners Wrote:  they dominated for what 10 years? I think they were a dynasty.

no

#snicker

(07-09-2013 08:41 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:11 AM)transitt Wrote:  We still dominated...also bonus coveraged Cincy two years after they left....beat them so badly ESPN sent the broadcast to bonus coverage of another game. Let me know when Charlotte dominates a league like that.

From the '95-'96 season to the '04-'05 you never won a conference tournament and only made one final. 2 outright regular season titles. You've been a "dynasty" since '05-'06 but no one that was in the original CUSA considers you a dynasty.

Leave it up to Tigers fans to get mad when someone presents reality to them. At least Charlotte fans, can realize that our basketball isn't what it was during the old CUSA days.

And Memphis wasn't what it is now during the old C-USA days. We were stuck with a terrible coach doing one of the worst coaching jobs in our history. As I stated earlier, I am not denying that we did not dominate in early C-USA. What I'm saying is that the Memphis that is known today, wasn't known then because of our awful head coach. All of the original teams left just a little too early. If y'all would have stayed a few more years, y'all would have all been dominated by Cal's great teams. Y'all got to play Price's awful teams and Cal's early teams. You didn't get to play the Memphis teams with the likes of a Rose, Evans, CDR, Dorsey, etc...Lou, Cincy, Charlotte, Marquette had the benefit of catching Memphis in a bad time, while Charlotte in particular, was in one of their best times...

(07-08-2013 08:35 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 08:31 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 06:50 PM)BlueAndGrayTiger Wrote:  To the "Memphis only dominated after Lou, Cincy, Marquette, etc left, that comment is kind of misleading. When those teams were in C-USA, Memphis was still dealing with having Tic Price as a head coach. Which was the absolute worst era in Tiger hoops. Then Calipari got there a couple years before all of the teams left. Cal was building at that point. Once Cal had built the Memphis brand up, the good teams had already left. If the 2005-2013 Memphis teams had played in the same conference as Lou, Cincy, etc, would have been a different story. The Memphis that we know today didnt exist while Lou, Cincy, Marquette were in C-USA.

To be fair, Price WAS your coach. You hired him. You paid him. Just as we hired Ellis Johnson and we are still paying him. You can't just dismiss a period of your history because you made a bad coaching hire.

You were a dynasty, anyone who doesn't think it is either stupid or apparently a MTSU fan

TG4 is a Memphis Tiger football alum...former player who did not appreciate the way Larry Porter was fired.
He likes to try and agitate Memphis fans...who don't realize that he DOESN'T hate Memphis...he just enjoys getting their goats.

TG4 doesn't hate anything and is a casual Memphis Tigers fan.